Smite run issue?

Senrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Halfway between here and there

Advanced Technology [CCCP]

Has anyone else noticed that there are several more graspings at the beginning of the UW, and an insanely large number of smites now? Normally, I wouldn't complain, but I can't seem to find a group with fewer than 6 smites, which seems to be impossible to kill useing a VwK W/Rt. Any ideas?

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

i just been in..didnt encounter anything strange, 3 grasping in a group, 3-5 smites in a group..maybe you had a bad/gd? run :P

Puran Lighthart

Puran Lighthart

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

GoAnubis

W/Me

i don't have a problem, usually only two groups of three graspings and one group of four in the begining, and i've only had a group of 5 smites at the max (unless i get aggroed by two groups). If thats the case i usually just break aggro and try again.

Senrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Halfway between here and there

Advanced Technology [CCCP]

Well, I hope it was just that run. Killing a group of 7 graspings wasnt fun, and massive amounts of smites, well, actually horrible >.<

Hyprodimus Prime

Hyprodimus Prime

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Vancouver BC

Sorrow Masters

E/

you probably got 2 mobs in one. Before the nerf to SV/AV people did both at once to save time. I personally play it safe now. 1 mob at a time, if u run far enough the middle group will leave (thats not always good)

Senrath

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Halfway between here and there

Advanced Technology [CCCP]

Nope, it wasn't multiple groups. I ran off, they scattered, I pulled one, and 6 others came running. Thankfully, it was just that run.

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

I have noticed that when doing multiple UW solo smite runs, i come across weird behavior every so often.

Like smites attacking coldfires, or smite mobs attacking other smite mobs. Sometimes i just have weird spawns were it seems like 3-4 seperate mobs are in the same spot and i try to pull when which ends up pulling them ALL (like 10-16 smites!)!!

I find if you have pulled smites and it looks like there is a 2nd mob that got aggroed with them, just take off running using your running skill, then as they turn back just try and aggro the lagging smites and pull them back. This should get only one of the groups. If they don't seperate during this first attempt, just keep running back, losing aggro, aggroing the lollygaggers, pulling them back, and repeat until only one mob comes (3-5 smites).

cheers!

Puran Lighthart

Puran Lighthart

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

GoAnubis

W/Me

i always see that rouge group of smites. they usually destroy 1 group of smites before the coldfires destroy them. every once in awhile the rouge smites get to the coldfires first and kill them and then a group of smites attacks them while they are weak.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

I'm noticing alot of smite groups with 4-6 now....Oh well, they scatter, but you can still kill them. More smites = more ecto anyway

Luciora

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Prophecy

E/Mo

Agreed on the more ecto but it is starting to get really irritating when the smites break aggro from the monk and go after the necro instead

We sat trying to kill a bunch of 5 smites where 2 would either go for the necro or they would just run away to come back 5 mins later. Need to find a way to beter manage this or i'm going to pull my hair out

Vrolijk

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Combine [TC]

W/

I was doing the W/me build and i could tank 15 smites pretty easy. havn't tried it lately but during the 1st test weekend it was also possible so i don't know why it shouldn't be now. so maybe that is the build u need to use when u repetetly come across large groups of smites.

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

E/Me ftw... bring em on...!

My Green Storage

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Arizona

My Blue Storage

N/

Glyph of Concentration FTW!! -- Pwned

3-4 graspings, 3 groups
3-5 smites per group

I've done near 120 runs as a E/Me and I haven't noticed any difference. I always pulled the grasping on the left side first when the groups combined (usually 7) and hit the right side for the other 3-4.

First smite group is usually 3-5, other groups are usually 3-5.
I've always had 1 in every 3-4 runs 1 smite group attack another, attack coldfires *OR* if I pulled 2 groups they start fighting (In that case I just start attacking with sandstorm so I get drops lol)(No attack = no drops).

But I have noticed they fixed it then what it was early last week. It was noted in the ele/me UW solo build located in this farming area, smites dropped crazy ectos (In 4-5 runs I picked up 10 ectos with 2 runs of 4) and it was also noted that the nightmares dropped 2 things instead of one (which they never did before) but they are now back to 1 thing dropped and ectos don't drop as often (But I did have 2 in 2 runs - I dont do it often anymore)

So i would say nothing has changed.

Xx Devour Xx

Xx Devour Xx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Ontario, Canada

W/

i encountered this a week back, some of the enemies like smites and graspings were dropping 2 items each for me, for example i would get two demonic remains from 1 grasping or i would get 212 gold pieces from one smite, too bad this lasted only one day
and as far as i can tell uw is back to normal... for me anyways however sometimes i encounter frozen groups of coldfires who will not move, i then have to aggro them and sprint awayand then they continue their patrols normally

Dementiak

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by RebelHero
E/Me ftw... bring em on...!
LOL exactly what i was thinking.... I wish all the smites got aggroed in one go hehehe... BOOM... pick up loot... on to the next run!

onerabbit

onerabbit

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks to all the guru [mods]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
I have noticed that when doing multiple UW solo smite runs, i come across weird behavior every so often.

Like smites attacking coldfires, or smite mobs attacking other smite mobs.

cheers!
i think this is becuase the smites use zealots fire, so the colds take damage, therefore attack..

Puran Lighthart

Puran Lighthart

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

GoAnubis

W/Me

That would make sense, but its always in the same spot that this occurs for me. If it were due to the fact of the zealots fire then it should be able to happen anywhere there are smites and coldfires next to each other.

Monk Gsb

Monk Gsb

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

England

Mo/Me

yea i have seen this once or twice, quite annoyed at it tbh, less that die from me (and ss) killing them the less drops we get = less chance of any ecto

maybe there just confused lol.

Suxipo

Suxipo

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

I would love to see 20+ smites per group! 10 ectos per run. hehe

well everything seems normal to me

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
I'm noticing alot of smite groups with 4-6 now....Oh well, they scatter, but you can still kill them. More smites = more ecto anyway qft. more smites, more ectos. ive found though that taking watch yourself and doylak will help u tank them better.

Y.T.

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

i've noticed quite a few weird mob spawns in fow as well. smtimes mobs of the same species fight each other, its unusual i think.
f/ex during the fow run last nite we saw abyssals fighting another group of abyssals - that was weird. we were getting to the forge and decided to leave the huge group of abyssals+warriors in peace. lag was terrible, we overaggroed the abyssal patrol while killing monks+mesmers group and runned for our lives, abyssal patrol in hot pursuit. the moment 1 group of abyssals saw another, they just went for it... mb AI was changed again?

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Wha? I *REALLY* can't see Anet attempting to nerf smite farming by actually increasing there number. The more of them there are the easier killing them with ele becomes, and currently its the fastest method solo to my knowledge. Put it down to a bad spawn or 2x mobs.

Morzan_7

Morzan_7

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

W/

This has only happened to me once...it never really posed much of a problem. This, I think, is just a chance event, I wouldn't get nervous or anything.

LUCKY4261

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

[M]ighty [A]ssassins [G]uild [E]xclusive

E/Me

well i always get this. the only way i know of curbing this is to not move up so much when taking out the first grp of smites at this narrow passage way after the 2 aatx's

AscalonWarrior

AscalonWarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kokkola, Finland

Mo/

Almost always when I'm in UW, group of smites are killing colfires and other smites But it really can help me, if they manage to kill Coldfires lol

Lincoln Gannon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

DEI

I have seen what the OP is referring to as well, a "group" of smites that is the size of two groups (6-10 smites) but behave as one group (you pull one and all the others run in). I'm pretty sure they're caused by a glitch, but the glitch is easy to work around - you need to aggro them, then run away until they lose aggro, then wait about ten seconds and re-aggro one. Usually this will "separate" the group so that they behave like two separate groups again. If it doesn't work, keep aggroing them and then running away until it does work. YMMV but this has worked for me. Also, when running away, don't use speed buffs, just run - the farther you get them away from their starting point, and the more you separate them, the better it works. Good luck.