At what point do you just say, "The heck with it."

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

Quote:
Originally Posted by theamazingfish
guild wars item worths are:

98% worthless items

2% dwarven, crystaline, ele sword, black dye, etc
QFT

its 100K+40 ecots or nothing now

NickelPlate

NickelPlate

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zedd Kun
It's impossible to sell stuff for the price it's worth, I always sell my stuff 20-30% cheaper, or else I would have to stay in a town forever.. Please PLEASE give us something, Anet!!
Isn't that the truth. In the end, anything in this game is only "worth" what you can get someone to pay you for it, in spite of the pricelists. Sometimes you get lucky and get more, but usually it's less. Sometime far less.

Loralai

Loralai

Purveyor of Useless Info

Join Date: Oct 2005

Perpetual Motion Squad [PMS]

Mo/

I'm a GwG Auction user, so I relist items that I expect to sell for 5k+ 2 times. If they do not sell, I will then take them (weapons or mods) and spam for 1k each. Whatever doesn't sell by the time I'm tired of spamming (which in my case isn't very long) I merchant.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

i thought everyone wanted the inscriptions and stated how wonderful it would be and improve trading.

well, i quit gw before nightfall and when i came back and camped la for a while the trading there is awful. trading in gw has got miles worse.

glountz

glountz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

Gwguru's prices are if you can find an e-bay buyer or no-life farmer.
The common player working normally for his gold not only can't buy at listed prices, but won't since it represent a too big investement just for braggin' rights.
But yes, sometimes you find people who bought 1000k on ebay and pay cash for a rare skin.

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Long Island, NY

Elite Knights [SWAT]

W/

any max greens i get i sell...even if its for only 1k. with nightfall gold weapons, if it isnt req 8-10 it goes straight to the merchant unless its a really rare skin, but not before salvaging anything worth salvaging. for uninscriptable golds, pretty much if it isnt 15^50, i salvage what i can and then sell to merchant.

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

Everything you sell that is not a weapon is either a slight discount off the merch price or a slight bump over what the merchant will pay for it. That is pretty simple.

Weapons are very specialized and hard to sell unless they are extremly rare. I find that I can sell certain mods easily +30HP, sword pommels, axe hafts, and bow grips. But only the +30 ones fetch the higher price, anythin less is not "leet" enough for most buyers.

Raaaaa

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

AP

D/

I'm with everyone else really. I'm bit of a hoarder and i've kept nearly every gold i've found so far, but 2 pvp storage characters later i'm running out of room.
As i'm still fairly new i'm not even sure whats useful and whats worthless and I don't really wany to merc something off, that might be of great value to someone else. I've tried going through the price check guides, but thats pretty general.
I'd like to see a better trading system in GW, something like a shop you submit your items to and other players can browse through or the mentioned auction house in game. It would help anyway.

morimoto

morimoto

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Ft. Worth TX

House of Soot?!

Mo/W

i pretty much sell everything to the merchant. i sell greens, golds, rare materials, and instriptions.

i cannot stand sitting around trying to sell loot to ppl. i know i lose out on a lot of money, but it is worth it.

spydre1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Mark of Heroes

W/Mo

Okay, not to sound like a total noob here, but how do you auction stuff - do you post it here, and then when you have the "winner", meet them at some place and time?

rohara

rohara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Rt/

i usually spend one day a week (saturday or sunday) just selling off my crap. skip between LA, KC, Kamadan, and maybe Droks, then post the leftovers on guru if i have any left. i usually don't have a problem clearing my inventory that way. and i always sell below guru's low-ball prices. i'd rather sell the item for a few plats less than usual than not sell the item at all!

Dawgboy

Dawgboy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ohio

Antisocial Misfit

I always used to just give half-way decent stuff away but now I merch it all. I got tired of people adding me to their f-list and then contantly bugging me for more stuff.

It kind of sucks getting 200gold from a merch for an item you could sell for 2-5k to a player, but it's worth it just to avoid all the wts hassle.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Usually I give it few weeks before I either salvage it or sell it to merchant.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by glountz
Gwguru's prices are if you can find an e-bay buyer or no-life farmer.
The common player working normally for his gold not only can't buy at listed prices, but won't since it represent a too big investement just for braggin' rights.
But yes, sometimes you find people who bought 1000k on ebay and pay cash for a rare skin.
GWG Price Check Stickies/ Guides are you referring to??? Or are you referring to the price checks given??? Or both???

Please enlighten me as to what is considered a "normal" way of making gold.

johnactor

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/Me

Once or twice I've tried to spam some golds (nf nightmare stuff and some greens) as well as some minipets to no avail.

I agree that standing there with a spam going for more than 10 minutes is depressing.

I think the inscriptions thing however is great, the fact that I can go get a 5plat crafted blue and inscribe it to something really cool is fantastic for players without much money, and suits guildwars style of being a game where farming and grinding don't get you any more than cosmetic rewards.

It does mean that, like one poster said, if it's not +30HP but +29HP, you'll never sell it.

Just accept it.

Either give away the +29 to noobs (it's not too hard to find people asking quite basic questions about the game that wouldn't if they were a low level alt) and just gear them up and support them. That's gotta be worth 1 or 2k

Fragorders

Fragorders

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

SD

-No Guild-

N/E

All we need is an auction house.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Generally, I love money, so if I can get 5k out of a mod/inscription - its getting sold.

Anything under 5k worth, I might try to sell a few times if its a popular thing like 15^50, then merchant it after a minute..

Weapons - If its req isnt 8 or 9 it gets the merchant (except if its a rare rare skin I guess), and even if it is req9- It still gets merchanted 99% of the time after a few minutes trade spam (mostly because its a common skin). Weapons are just worthless to try to sell..

Fragorders - Auction HOuse really doesn't change much. If WoW is any indicator - what'll happen is you'll put the item in the AHouse, then have to stand in town anyway spamming "Selling [Whatever] In Auction House!" to get anyone to buy it :\

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I am like most I have stuff in my inventory taking up space I haven't listed it yet on the Guru Auction and in Ventri's.I prefer not to take little SS of it and just list it.There are times when I without the inventory space on a quest or mission and leave my drops behinds if they don't look good.I am not one to stand in p[laces like LA and go WTS as i don't have the Patients for it.I would say some are asking way to much for their stuff as with future camps coming down the road that will decrease the value of weapons and what not.

The only time I will sell to merchants is if I really need the inventory space to get rid of some clutter and it would be nice to have mini pet storage like hat storage.

Emerikol

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Undead Army

E/Me

Games become boring to me when drops are not interesting. I hated City of Heroes because there were no drops, and got bored of it quickly. Now I'm getting bored with Guild Wars because once you get your max armor and weapon, there is not much to get excited about anymore. Max inscriptions and expensive runes are nice, but are not nearly as important to have as people make them out to be.

The whole loot part of the game is about vanity, aquiring new skins, minipets, and other useless junk. Most people do not want to spend loads of hard-earned money on vanity garbage.

This is why it is hard to sell drops, because for the most part it is only worth what the merchant is paying for it.

Since I have not found interest in the PvP side of Guild Wars, and the PvE is weak compared to most other MMO's out there, I think I will be moving on. Without nice unique weapons and armor that actually make a difference to the playability of your character, this game has become stale real quick.

If there are no drops or quest rewards that actually mean anything(besides vanity) then there is nothing of importance to work for in the game, and if there is nothing to work for, then why play? Now I am back to having the same problem I had with City of Heroes...

Sorry to take this somewhat off-topic, but you guys sparked something in my head that I have been thinking about alot in the past few weeks.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

Every gold I've gotten I've sold to the merchant, save for a crystalline. So I never really say "the heck with it".

Blackest Rose

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

At this point ------------------------> .

Sorry - couldn't resist......

Perkunas

Perkunas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2006

In my own little world, looking at yours

Only Us[NotU]

E/

I have virtually given up trying to sell anything to people. I pick EVERY drop. I ID evrything. I have a set value in my mind for a given area. I salvage anything under that value and merchant the rest. You will be surprized how fast your account grows. I only carry the ID and salvage kits, both superiors, so I have room for 43 items.
If I find something of REAL value, I will hold it a few days watching the WTBs. I don't hold more than 3 or 4 days.

Someone said they couldn't give away a mesmer green. Last night I did. Saw a lvl 7 mesmer with no guild tags, opened trade. He/she asked How Much?. When I said free, they put a blue Chalice in the trade window "to make room". The TY's went on and on.

theamazingfish

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

for an example... Today i trashed a few items that had these stats:

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wodden boar scepter

Req 9 Domination

Halves casting time domination magic 20%

Halves skill recharge of domination magic 19%

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2 perfect axe deathbane mods.

1 perfect 20 swordsmanship mod

3 perfect halves casting time of spells inscribtions

and a few others i cannot remember..


It may seem like an idiotic thing to do.. but that is how bad the market is.. there really is not even a need for cash anymore in this game. other than for buying keys to open chests that hold more worthless crap.

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

After the AoE nerf I said "the heck with it" (and some other choice phrases) and quit GW for about 4 months. I'm currently back though, and plan on staying a while.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

i trashed 2 15ks armor set and 1 1.5k armor set ( i salvaged the sup vigor at least =) ) to make space =\

Fragorders

Fragorders

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

SD

-No Guild-

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Fragorders - Auction HOuse really doesn't change much. If WoW is any indicator - what'll happen is you'll put the item in the AHouse, then have to stand in town anyway spamming "Selling [Whatever] In Auction House!" to get anyone to buy it :\
I donno, I never stood around much at AH and spammed. I just went on my own and had a nice supprise when I saw "your [item] sold." If i needed money ASAP then I would spam in for sale chat. But it gave me the chance to do more questing/raiding and less time standing around in a city, and spam. So for me, the AH was a great way to sell your items.

Mars Dragonblade

Mars Dragonblade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Awesometon.

Ministry of Fate [MoF]

W/

If I've had something in my inventory/storage for a while and not sold it when I keep saying I will, I'll merchant it unless anyone I know is in need of it. Usually, knowing my luck, I only get what I think are great drops, even golds or items that wiki says is a rarity, that to everyone else aren't even worth as much as a jar of GW celebrity toenail clippings. Also, what I think Anet should do is bring back MESSAGE SUPPRESSION!!! (subtle hint to Anet if they decide to read this at some point). Trade and General chat spam alone makes me really angry, especially when it's a total $)^!)$&"*!~#ing noob spamming the stupidest of stupid questions a million times over until he's got the either very easy or obvious answer or one person looking for a team in the emptiest of locations . It's not like spamming is going to get them the sale any faster or get them into a team any quicker.

/End rant + my input on my selling habits .

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

I end up id'ing all, just out of curiosity, then give freebies, then merch...I gave up on selling because...I just don't spam, and don't have the machinegun eyes to put up with the almost unreadable spam in the popular outposts...

(and no, i don't go to options and enlarge the spam...i mean chat window)

zara

zara

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

everywhere and no where

Mo/

I only sell things that are either perfect rare skinned weapons (worth 100k+) or certain perfect mods - other than that I merch everything.

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

the people who bitch about not being able to sell their items are the same ones who bitched to increase droprates because they were poor.
you all did this to yourselves and i have no sympathy for you.

gone

Guest

Join Date: Jan 2007

I didn't see anyone asking for sympathy from you or anyone else.

drop rates are decreased now with each run you make. (at least if you farm)

lol @ "if it ain't expensive, it ain't worth buying"

Akhilleus

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by flubber
I didn't see anyone asking for sympathy from you or anyone else.

drop rates are decreased now with each run you make. (at least if you farm)

lol @ "if it ain't expensive, it ain't worth buying"
and yet, here they are; complaining about changes they instigated.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

What they asked for most was an Auction House. Lack of an Auction House is the core problem here and reason why no one bothers to buy or sell anything other than super high end things.

They asked for more drops to somewhat alleviate the lack of an Auction House via more stuff to sell in theory allowing for some money making. That didn't turn out so well.

But the point remains that had the core problem been solved via an Auction House, then everybody would buy and sell everything happily and there would be very few complaints.

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akhilleus
the people who bitch about not being able to sell their items are the same ones who bitched to increase droprates because they were poor.
you all did this to yourselves and i have no sympathy for you.
Statement of the year! I like it!

You just got tomahawked

You just got tomahawked

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

H-Town

The Battle Bakery [vPie]

N/

I sell just about everything unless its worth 100 k or more.

w00t!

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sorrow's Furnace Hot Tub

RoS

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by ElinoraNeSangre
I put stuff up on GWG auctions; it only takes minutes to list it, then I just sit back and wait for someone to buy it. If no one buys it, I lower the price a couple of times, and if no one still buys it, I either sell to merch or slap a "show me the money" inscription on THEN merch it.
We have a winner! Follow the above advice and you can't go wrong. That's exactly what I've done, and now have a rating over 200. I have sold no more than 3 or 4 items in-game, the rest going on gwguru auction. Sure, I could have gotten more cash if I had spent countless hours WTSing in LA, but I figure I more than make it up with quantity (i.e. spending those hours getting more stuff in Sorrow's Furnace, and having fun doing it.)

Some simple rules to follow:
1) Don't auction off anything that's not gold, nor max, unless it's very very rare (think crystalline, dwarven, sephis, fleshy, etc).
2) Set your starting bid at no more then 1/2 what you'd like to get for it.
3) Don't set a reserve on the item, ever.

The reason that most people aren't successful selling stuff on gwguru is that they set their prices way too high. They forget about the psychology of auctioning all together. You can often get more for an item with a very low starting price that encourages bidding. If you don't believe me, check various green items being auctioned off. Competitive betting FTW.

Oh yeah, we don't need a GW Auction House. Guild Wars Guru works just fine, thank you very much.

Fragorders

Fragorders

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

SD

-No Guild-

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by w00t!
Oh yeah, we don't need a GW Auction House. Guild Wars Guru works just fine, thank you very much.
OK hands down, as far as GW goes, Guru is a pretty snappy set up. But an auction house should be set up in game, and not having to switch between what ever browser you have and GW...now, if GW would let Guru have some kinda set up inside the game? Then you got something going!

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

R/

I don't give up. Lol, I'm a lifeless loser

Oofus

Oofus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

Cold Hard [CASH]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akhilleus
the people who bitch about not being able to sell their items are the same ones who bitched to increase droprates because they were poor.
you all did this to yourselves and i have no sympathy for you.
lol Akh's kinda harsh but he speaks true none the less.

One thing I do these days to save space is, if I have an item I want to hold on to to sell, and mods that are perfect for that item, I'll often add the mods. A few months ago this was a bad idea from a fiscal perspective but nowadays mods are so worthless that it's better to have the free space, and perfectly modded weapons tend to sell faster so it's a 2 way "win" in my opinion.

Also, if it aint perfect, or very rare and close to perfect, then it aint worth the inventory space…..merchant it. If it is perfect but not rare or sought after, then just unload it for a few k, it’s not worth the hassle to try and get more. Every now and then stick all of it in the Sell section here at Guru and hope for a little somethin. More often then not I find myself giving stuff away to low levels. For example the other day I ran through the keyless chests in Elonia and the best item I got was a Req 10 Spikey War Hammer, everything else was high req and worthless skins so I just gave the whole lot away to random low levels on newb island. Opens up inventory and makes new players pretty happy.

Toutatis

Toutatis

Walking Wiki

Join Date: Nov 2006

Isle of Medication

Visitors from Aranna [VFA]

Me/E

I usually merch the stuff I find. Although on the rare occasion that I find a perfect mod for something, I don't sell them. I either use them myself if I have a character that can use them, or I give them away to newer players. May as well share the wealth