is there a major reason why it is good? i dont see whats so good about it say, VS plate ? oh well, long live knight/ascalon!
Whats the deal with Sentinel Armor?
Takonic
ive played my tank for about a year and half now, i retired him but now i see some skills that are intresting, and i look at some of the new armor types and to see Sentinel insignias at 8k! ! is there a major reason why it is good? i dont see whats so good about it say, VS plate ? oh well, long live knight/ascalon!
is there a major reason why it is good? i dont see whats so good about it say, VS plate ? oh well, long live knight/ascalon!
Katari
My guess is that it is expensive for the same reason sundering weapons are expensive. There is no good reason to use that much str, unless you are doing some sorta of DoA/Deep style stuff.
Thom Bangalter
It's terrible, but people are bad at the game. lots of bad players+rediculously overvalued insignia=8k.
It's better than knight's though.
It's better than knight's though.
Cathode_Reborn
Warriors are commonly used for farming/running.....that's probably why.
LightningHell
Both Knight's and Sentinel's are terrible.
dgb
It sucks.
Most of the Guild Wars community sucks at Guild Wars as well, hence they buy stuff that sucks.
Most of the Guild Wars community sucks at Guild Wars as well, hence they buy stuff that sucks.
JR
Sentinels is by far the best armor choice, if you have no reason to spec into Tactics.
clawofcrimson
O.O Joo all gaot ownd by JR ooooo
its not that bad folks... If you have good healers on your team you may not need to take any tactics....and i think the spike in price is due to obs tanks in DOA
its not that bad folks... If you have good healers on your team you may not need to take any tactics....and i think the spike in price is due to obs tanks in DOA
Savio
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Originally Posted by JR
Sentinels is by far the best armor choice, if you have no reason to spec into Tactics.
Unfortunately, that does not explain why the PvE crowd with their glad def/riposte warriors are drooling all over Sentinel's.
Tingi
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Originally Posted by JR
Sentinels is by far the best armor choice, if you have no reason to spec into Tactics.
O_o
Maybe...I personally run tactics so I wouldn't really know...
Bu still...I would have Energy or Health armor over Sentinels anyday...but that's just me.
But Sentinels is better than Knights.
Maybe...I personally run tactics so I wouldn't really know...
Bu still...I would have Energy or Health armor over Sentinels anyday...but that's just me.
But Sentinels is better than Knights.
Bowstring Badass
Gladiator>all armor.
I would rather run energy armor and a zealous axe for anything.
I would rather run energy armor and a zealous axe for anything.
BryanM
It is by far the second worst.
Stuff like this is exactly why I don't pick up people anymore - the mentality that 20 conditional armor is worth 13 strength (which breaks with weakness) is absurd. If an elementalist boss is tearing you apart:
1. Move.
2. Have some protective spirit. Humans are better by far at protection than the bots, but even the random button-mashing AI will hit it in time almost all the time.
THINGS YOU CAN DO IF YOU REALLY WANT ARMOR IN PVE:
Put those 12 points into Earth Magic, and use armor of earth. It's less conditional, working on even on physical damage. Even though I have absolutely no idea why you'd want to pile armor on a warrior specifically.
WATCH YOURSELF. WATCH YOURSELF. WATCH YOURSELF.
12 points into tactics, and you're giving 20 UNCONDITIONAL armor to your entire team.
You might say "oh noes Bryan, those cost skill slots!"
If armor is worth having in the first place, it's worth a slot. Utility, folks.
Sentinel's is dreck. Strength has uses in its skillset, yea, but get the +Health instead. It will unconditionally help the real tanks (the healers) by giving them a wider margin of error re:response time.
Or don't. I like it being relatively cheap. Makes it viable to kite out my heroes with it.
Stuff like this is exactly why I don't pick up people anymore - the mentality that 20 conditional armor is worth 13 strength (which breaks with weakness) is absurd. If an elementalist boss is tearing you apart:
1. Move.
2. Have some protective spirit. Humans are better by far at protection than the bots, but even the random button-mashing AI will hit it in time almost all the time.
THINGS YOU CAN DO IF YOU REALLY WANT ARMOR IN PVE:
Put those 12 points into Earth Magic, and use armor of earth. It's less conditional, working on even on physical damage. Even though I have absolutely no idea why you'd want to pile armor on a warrior specifically.
WATCH YOURSELF. WATCH YOURSELF. WATCH YOURSELF.
12 points into tactics, and you're giving 20 UNCONDITIONAL armor to your entire team.
You might say "oh noes Bryan, those cost skill slots!"
If armor is worth having in the first place, it's worth a slot. Utility, folks.
Sentinel's is dreck. Strength has uses in its skillset, yea, but get the +Health instead. It will unconditionally help the real tanks (the healers) by giving them a wider margin of error re:response time.
Or don't. I like it being relatively cheap. Makes it viable to kite out my heroes with it.
clawofcrimson
just a quick question... do any of you know if the rumor is true that you only need one peice of knights for for the -3 reduction... when I started the game 7 months or so ago i was told this was the case... but I never questioned it...
BryanM
They changed it in a patch, claw. Now it only works if you get hit on that armor piece.
Before that, yeah it was worth putting it on your hands or feet. It worked on any damage source, including my Spiteful Spirit. Now that it's location based and only works against physical damage, it's not any good. Worst armor type in the game, now.
Before that, yeah it was worth putting it on your hands or feet. It worked on any damage source, including my Spiteful Spirit. Now that it's location based and only works against physical damage, it's not any good. Worst armor type in the game, now.
clawofcrimson
aah.. i see thanks... time to get a new insignia for my gauntlets
Katari
That was never the case. Back when knight's armor was global, it was a -2.
Now it is -3, and not global.
Now it is -3, and not global.
Arkantos
I really don't see a problem with sentinel armor if you're only running weapon + strength.
Thom Bangalter
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Originally Posted by JR
Sentinels is by far the best armor choice, if you have no reason to spec into Tactics.
Heal sig? shields up? or prot, for mending touch?
Not to mention every warrior bar I see is energy hungry.
Not to mention every warrior bar I see is energy hungry.
Skuld
I think the point is that there is little point not to spec in tactics, making it useless.
Jetdoc
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Originally Posted by Skuld
I think the point is that there is little point not to spec in tactics, making it useless.
I've soloed almost every part of Prophecies with my warrior without putting a point in Tactics. You just need to be creative. 
On a side note, the big downside of running 13 in Strength is:
1. If you're running a 12 in Weapon, you basically can't use your secondary profession other than for minor conveniences.
2. If you do want to utilize another skill line, you basically need to run a major rune. The -35 health versus the +10 armor vs. elemental normally is a rough tradeoff.
3. Weakness kills 20 armor.
On a side note, the big downside of running 13 in Strength is:
1. If you're running a 12 in Weapon, you basically can't use your secondary profession other than for minor conveniences.
2. If you do want to utilize another skill line, you basically need to run a major rune. The -35 health versus the +10 armor vs. elemental normally is a rough tradeoff.
3. Weakness kills 20 armor.
jesh
I don't use tactics, I use my secondary.
If for some reason I have all warrior skills, sometimes I will spec 13 strength. In that case, the Sentinel set is clearly superior to the Dreadnought set.
Most people buy it cause they missed the short bus to school in the morning. Some people know when to use it.
10g for you if you know who I quoted.
If for some reason I have all warrior skills, sometimes I will spec 13 strength. In that case, the Sentinel set is clearly superior to the Dreadnought set.
Most people buy it cause they missed the short bus to school in the morning. Some people know when to use it.
10g for you if you know who I quoted.
pingu666
depends on build. lions comfort removes the need for healsig (yeah it heals for less, BUT no -40al )
strength may not have a amasing effect, but tatics has none, other than making people go zomg tatics rule and your a n00b if you think otherwise!!
WY will give you (and everyone else ~22al with 13 on tatics), u have half that already with sentinals (ele/physical split)
13 strength
16weapon
4tatics
lions comfort heals for 93hp~
healsig 137 (but double damage)
on a defensive build tatics is better, on a offensive build, strength is.
if there was sentinal spec armour, but for tatics everyone would rave over it...
strength may not have a amasing effect, but tatics has none, other than making people go zomg tatics rule and your a n00b if you think otherwise!!
WY will give you (and everyone else ~22al with 13 on tatics), u have half that already with sentinals (ele/physical split)
13 strength
16weapon
4tatics
lions comfort heals for 93hp~
healsig 137 (but double damage)
on a defensive build tatics is better, on a offensive build, strength is.
if there was sentinal spec armour, but for tatics everyone would rave over it...
BryanM
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Originally Posted by pingu666
if there was sentinal spec armour, but for tatics everyone would rave over it...
God, no. Trading in 40 life for 20 armor against elementalists...
The cost at the trader says everything - the majority of the playerbase already "raves" over Sentinel's more than every other armor type. (or has that changed?)
I can see it maybe meaning something against the Ritualist Teams in HA... maybe.
The cost at the trader says everything - the majority of the playerbase already "raves" over Sentinel's more than every other armor type. (or has that changed?)
I can see it maybe meaning something against the Ritualist Teams in HA... maybe.
Mesmer in Need
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
I really don't see a problem with sentinel armor if you're only running weapon + strength.
uh...? when have you or any other person seen or used this on a war? I like my glads/ dragon mix though- it gives energy and some armour vs elemental, plus it looks good.
Shadowfox1125
Search for the thread I started a long time ago..
"Insignia Survey" or something like that..
"Insignia Survey" or something like that..
LightningHell
Agreed that if you had, for some reason, 13 Strength, there would be no problem with Sentinel's.
I rarely run a Warrior with 13 Strength though.
I rarely run a Warrior with 13 Strength though.
qvtkc
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Originally Posted by pingu666
Tactics: [skill]Thrill of Victory[/skill][skill]Steady Stance[/skill][skill]Desperation Blow[/skill]
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Originally Posted by JR
Sentinels is by far the best armor choice, if you have no reason to spec into Tactics.
lol
But even with no points in tactics, gladiator's/radiant is better.
clawofcrimson
funny how the same people who say warriors should not use any energy requiring skills say that radiant is the best armour
Priest Of Sin
I prefer to wear ascalon chest+legs, glads boots, and stonefist gauntlets. The 100 armor at the cost of 13 str is just too much... tactics is my buddy
qvtkc
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Originally Posted by clawofcrimson
funny how the same people who say warriors should not use any energy requiring skills say that radiant is the best armour
Who says that?  Warrior energy skills are too good to be passed up... Especially since some warrior skills cost 5 energy and basically the same thing as a 10 energy skill from some other profession. Not to mention that there are a lot of energy-powered skills from other professions that are very suitable for a warrior to use.Now if you are talking about attack skills, it's a completely different thing...
Samster92
its just because it looks cool!
Age
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Originally Posted by JR
Sentinels is by far the best armor choice, if you have no reason to spec into Tactics.
What is this you sticking up for Sentinels that'll be the day.
kazjun
With sentinals you can stand in a firestorm and not have to move...
On the other hand, in pve I usually wear berzerkers (the +hp one, think they call it survivalists or something now) and I can't think of a time where I didn't wear glads for pvp. Might pull out my platemail for all ele mobs like the titan quests but I've found +hp armour is plenty good for pve. |
