Hey
iam thinking of getting my self a copy of GW:Nightfall
which ive heard some good things about,but iam wondering how do you earn your gold now when solo farming is nerfed well maybe nott totaly nerfed but still enough to make it agonising,so how do you guys earn your gold thru elite missions?
not sure if this belongs in the farminf section but iam talking generaly about all chars/proffessions.
How do you earn your gold now?
Nexium
Ray
I kinda just worked from a few decent drops I got, and then worked my way up, by selling and buying.
Vrolijk
you can earn your gold on various ways in gw. the most common are:
- powertrading. This is a very good and fast way to earn loads of gold. you must have some starting cash to begin with it and you need a very good understanding of what the prices on the various items are. not too forget time spending in outposts buying and selling those items.
- farming. you can farm various things and the builds can be acuired on this forum. this is a decent way of making cash. but be prepared of doing this over and over and over again. if you want to do this it's best to have all 3 versions of GW, because most builds require skills from different campaigns. i think the best places to farm now are solo UW and FoW.
- Chest running. This is also a good way of making money, but you need to have some luck and the cash to buy the keys. To make good money you can sell the accuired items cheap to powertraders and go on with running, or try to make big cash on the good items and try to sell them at higher prices.
- DoA. The DoA is an elite area of nightfall. you need to come there 1st, but when you're there and find a good group you can make money of the drops that are there.
overall making money is (buying and) selling in the outposts. only do this with the items worth selling. personally i don't like to stand in a town for a hour trying to find the player that wants to pay the price, but i want to go out and get more items. so i go for quantity over quality. other players go for the quality.
- powertrading. This is a very good and fast way to earn loads of gold. you must have some starting cash to begin with it and you need a very good understanding of what the prices on the various items are. not too forget time spending in outposts buying and selling those items.
- farming. you can farm various things and the builds can be acuired on this forum. this is a decent way of making cash. but be prepared of doing this over and over and over again. if you want to do this it's best to have all 3 versions of GW, because most builds require skills from different campaigns. i think the best places to farm now are solo UW and FoW.
- Chest running. This is also a good way of making money, but you need to have some luck and the cash to buy the keys. To make good money you can sell the accuired items cheap to powertraders and go on with running, or try to make big cash on the good items and try to sell them at higher prices.
- DoA. The DoA is an elite area of nightfall. you need to come there 1st, but when you're there and find a good group you can make money of the drops that are there.
overall making money is (buying and) selling in the outposts. only do this with the items worth selling. personally i don't like to stand in a town for a hour trying to find the player that wants to pay the price, but i want to go out and get more items. so i go for quantity over quality. other players go for the quality.
NickelPlate
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Originally Posted by Nexium
Hey
iam thinking of getting my self a copy of GW:Nightfall
which ive heard some good things about,but iam wondering how do you earn your gold now when solo farming is nerfed well maybe nott totaly nerfed but still enough to make it agonising,so how do you guys earn your gold thru elite missions?
not sure if this belongs in the farminf section but iam talking generaly about all chars/proffessions. What's this "solo farming nerf" I keep hearing about? Did drop rates get worse or just farming items get harder?
NP
iam thinking of getting my self a copy of GW:Nightfall
which ive heard some good things about,but iam wondering how do you earn your gold now when solo farming is nerfed well maybe nott totaly nerfed but still enough to make it agonising,so how do you guys earn your gold thru elite missions?
not sure if this belongs in the farminf section but iam talking generaly about all chars/proffessions. What's this "solo farming nerf" I keep hearing about? Did drop rates get worse or just farming items get harder?
NP
White_Chaos
There are 2 updates which made farming hard
1) Monster run away when take dmg from skills like Shield of Judgment, Glad. defense, Vengeful Was Khanhei,..
2) When you enter an area allot of times to farm it over and over again, your chance of getting something good will decrease
For the topic I make my money by farming and powertrading
1) Monster run away when take dmg from skills like Shield of Judgment, Glad. defense, Vengeful Was Khanhei,..
2) When you enter an area allot of times to farm it over and over again, your chance of getting something good will decrease
For the topic I make my money by farming and powertrading
Arkantos
The Underworld.
Barrett
yep ill probly agree
Uw W/Rt Solo Or Rt/Me Solo
or dual 55+famine or 55+SS
fow is good to Solo Beach,Cave & Forest
few ectos and shards can be handy
i also got a 20/20 15%50 req9 storm bow in there which i added +30 to and sold for 100K+ectos
Uw W/Rt Solo Or Rt/Me Solo
or dual 55+famine or 55+SS
fow is good to Solo Beach,Cave & Forest
few ectos and shards can be handy
i also got a 20/20 15%50 req9 storm bow in there which i added +30 to and sold for 100K+ectos
Div
Unless you want to buy something ridiculously priced (torment shield, crystalline sword), there's no real need to solo farm merely for the sake of getting gold.
You can easily get by with "perfect" collectors items and greens, and if you want something in the middle ranges you can always do DoA, UW, FoW, or chest running. Another good way is to do services for other people for a certain price, as you can get more gold faster (and is more rewarding and fun) than way than most solo-farm methods.
You can easily get by with "perfect" collectors items and greens, and if you want something in the middle ranges you can always do DoA, UW, FoW, or chest running. Another good way is to do services for other people for a certain price, as you can get more gold faster (and is more rewarding and fun) than way than most solo-farm methods.
rotoiti
Running Ruins of Morah and Gate of Madness missions.
Jetdoc
I play the game without heroes and henchmen. I don't believe that I've farmed at all over the past year and a half, other than for collectable drops during the holiday events.
CagedinSanity
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Originally Posted by Ray
I kinda just worked from a few decent drops I got, and then worked my way up, by selling and buying.
Yeah. Me too.
I also wait for events and get the "token-like" items and sell those for 100g each. I do the same for monestary credits, battle commedations, etc.
I also wait for events and get the "token-like" items and sell those for 100g each. I do the same for monestary credits, battle commedations, etc.
onerabbit
This is how i earn my cash..
Farm..
Chest Run
Farm..
Chest Run
drupal
UW, Tusked Howlers, CR 
novawhiz
The best place to get money know is by far the DoA. Once you get a nice group perferable guildies) you get rack up at least 125k++ an hour. Leme explain:
Using a nice DoA build(i like DoA balanced http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:Team_-_DoA_Balanced) you clear the four areas in this manner City-> Veil -> Gloom -> Foundary. Once you finish it all you will have 1 margonite, 2 stygian, 3 torment, 4 titan gemstones. Just from gemstones thats almost 500k. Then you get gold drops and greens that are worth 150k+. The whole thing takes like 4 hours but thats still a whopping 125k++ per hour. Much much better than any 30K/ hour farming.
If you need quick, fast cash running is the way to go. Unstead if relying on bosses to drop greens you can always get cash from running. Droks runs now take like 15 min for dervishes and the going rate is 4k. Thats 60k in a little over an hour. Not bad.
Using a nice DoA build(i like DoA balanced http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:Team_-_DoA_Balanced) you clear the four areas in this manner City-> Veil -> Gloom -> Foundary. Once you finish it all you will have 1 margonite, 2 stygian, 3 torment, 4 titan gemstones. Just from gemstones thats almost 500k. Then you get gold drops and greens that are worth 150k+. The whole thing takes like 4 hours but thats still a whopping 125k++ per hour. Much much better than any 30K/ hour farming.
If you need quick, fast cash running is the way to go. Unstead if relying on bosses to drop greens you can always get cash from running. Droks runs now take like 15 min for dervishes and the going rate is 4k. Thats 60k in a little over an hour. Not bad.
fog_of_redoubt
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Originally Posted by holymasamune
Unless you want to buy something ridiculously priced (torment shield, crystalline sword), there's no real need to solo farm merely for the sake of getting gold.
You can easily get by with "perfect" collectors items and greens, and if you want something in the middle ranges you can always do DoA, UW, FoW, or chest running. Another good way is to do services for other people for a certain price, as you can get more gold faster (and is more rewarding and fun) than way than most solo-farm methods. Nice, about the 10,000th time someone graces a farming thread to inform us that we don't need high priced items, we can play perfectly fine on collector items
I am so glad to hear that, all that tedious farming is over. I can just get a collector weapon. Man if I only would have known this sooner.
You can easily get by with "perfect" collectors items and greens, and if you want something in the middle ranges you can always do DoA, UW, FoW, or chest running. Another good way is to do services for other people for a certain price, as you can get more gold faster (and is more rewarding and fun) than way than most solo-farm methods. Nice, about the 10,000th time someone graces a farming thread to inform us that we don't need high priced items, we can play perfectly fine on collector items
I am so glad to hear that, all that tedious farming is over. I can just get a collector weapon. Man if I only would have known this sooner.
Avatar Exico
hm.
I made alot of Money from doing Killroy Chests. 1-4k+ a Run and with the luckyness you can get Crystalline Sword.
Another Place i think is good way on making money(Wurm Farm Big Time)
Farming Dead Swords is also a good way to make money.
I made alot of Money from doing Killroy Chests. 1-4k+ a Run and with the luckyness you can get Crystalline Sword.
Another Place i think is good way on making money(Wurm Farm Big Time)
Farming Dead Swords is also a good way to make money.
Jesse
CR / Solo UW & FOW / Buy low-Sell high / Running Infusion & grotto / Selling everything that isnt gold or worth over 10k
T N Player
I farm SF. It is common to me to get around 2 greens per run. Last time i got Drago's Flatbow (non vamp). Also you make a few K just getting the normal drops and cash they drop. I also do some 55 in Moddock Crevice. I get a gold rune and some gold bows and I got a gold tattooed scimitar once. Easy way for some quick cash. I also 55 farm dead swords. They don't just drop dead bows but they also drop other kinds of golds. I also make a few K for just farming.
MrGuildBoi
Solo UW W/Rt... Made me lots of money
Priest Of Sin
Powertrading is by FAR the best way to make moolah. For example:
I buy a req 9 Sword, it has a crap inscription, crap pommel, and crap hilt. It costs me 2.5k.
I buy a 15^50 inscription, which costs me 5k.
I buy a Zealous hilt and a +5 armor pommel, which costs me around 2.5k again.
I can sell this item right back here on guru for 30k+, which is 20k profit
or Uw farming. Since warriors can do it now, it's become very popular.
I buy a req 9 Sword, it has a crap inscription, crap pommel, and crap hilt. It costs me 2.5k.
I buy a 15^50 inscription, which costs me 5k.
I buy a Zealous hilt and a +5 armor pommel, which costs me around 2.5k again.
I can sell this item right back here on guru for 30k+, which is 20k profit
or Uw farming. Since warriors can do it now, it's become very popular.
Riceboi
I pretty much just do a couple Underworld smite runs everytime I play GW. I don't really need money anymore, but I just do them for fun and getting an ecto is just a nice surprise. It's also more of a challenge now that they nerfed some skills.
funbun
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Originally Posted by fog_of_redoubt
Nice, about the 10,000th time someone graces a farming thread to inform us that we don't need high priced items, we can play perfectly fine on collector items
I am so glad to hear that, all that tedious farming is over. I can just get a collector weapon. Man if I only would have known this sooner. Dude, it's always been that way. The game has never been about uber weapons.
I am so glad to hear that, all that tedious farming is over. I can just get a collector weapon. Man if I only would have known this sooner. Dude, it's always been that way. The game has never been about uber weapons.
fog_of_redoubt
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Originally Posted by funbun
Dude, it's always been that way. The game has never been about uber weapons.
Apparently you didn't realize I was being sarcastic. Point is we dont need someone to come into a thread about farming with some revelation about the fact that we don't need to farm
that is IDIOTIC, we do it because we want to.
that is IDIOTIC, we do it because we want to.
theamazingfish
If i could give any advice i would say.
Dont ever give up on the monk. (it will always be the best and most versitile farmer)
Dont be afraid to 2 or even 3 man farming areas.
Dont farm uw or fow anymore (there are so much more productive places to make money)
Sure ecto in uw is great. but the drop rates are horrible and due to the whole "pull small when in mele" ai changes. you will either pull small and take a while.. or pull big and sit for even longer because the baddies go at you in shifts...
Average return from farming underworld is one or two ecto and about 1-2k in drops per run... a run can span from 10-30 minutes depending on your build and target monsters. so lets say per run you can make about 6k... so lets just round that to 7k in 20 min average.. sure sometimes more and sometimes less.. but this is a good generous average...
In some nightfall spots you can average 5k in 20 minutes and often get good runs at about 10-15k in 20 minutes. Not to mention that you hold a much better chance of getting rare items points for titles if you need them.
But the best piece of advice i can give you is this.. the flavor of the week is not always the best way to cash in... Farm everything and everywhere. if you really enjoy farming. it is not the money that draws you into a spot.. its the idea of having fun and doing somthing that has not been done before.
There is a farming guide on these forums for a monk in nightfall that when modified and combined with a partner... you can duo from kamadan all the way up untill the gates of desolation and beyond..
Dont ever limit yourself to a few overused spots for farming.
A good note is also this.... for the most part prophecies is mostly mele.. so the new ai changes affect it the most. Nightfall however seems to be specifically designed to allow for massive pulls with as small a number of mele in the groups as possible..
In nightfall pulls of 20+ baddies can have as few as 4 mele baddies in them... this makes for super fast farms.
This game was made to be farmed... they just make it hard to do.. and that is what can be fun and rewarding also.
In the end i say. find some good friends and farm with them.. because no matter what you do it will always be fun with friends. and you will become rich much faster than if you had been alone.
I dont care what anyone says about what genre the game falls into. No hero will ever account for the company and humor of a good friend farming partner.. I dont care how many times you can flag your heros away to get extra loot.
YOU REALLY CANNOT PUT A PRICE ON FRIENDSHIP.
Dont ever give up on the monk. (it will always be the best and most versitile farmer)
Dont be afraid to 2 or even 3 man farming areas.
Dont farm uw or fow anymore (there are so much more productive places to make money)
Sure ecto in uw is great. but the drop rates are horrible and due to the whole "pull small when in mele" ai changes. you will either pull small and take a while.. or pull big and sit for even longer because the baddies go at you in shifts...
Average return from farming underworld is one or two ecto and about 1-2k in drops per run... a run can span from 10-30 minutes depending on your build and target monsters. so lets say per run you can make about 6k... so lets just round that to 7k in 20 min average.. sure sometimes more and sometimes less.. but this is a good generous average...
In some nightfall spots you can average 5k in 20 minutes and often get good runs at about 10-15k in 20 minutes. Not to mention that you hold a much better chance of getting rare items points for titles if you need them.
But the best piece of advice i can give you is this.. the flavor of the week is not always the best way to cash in... Farm everything and everywhere. if you really enjoy farming. it is not the money that draws you into a spot.. its the idea of having fun and doing somthing that has not been done before.
There is a farming guide on these forums for a monk in nightfall that when modified and combined with a partner... you can duo from kamadan all the way up untill the gates of desolation and beyond..
Dont ever limit yourself to a few overused spots for farming.
A good note is also this.... for the most part prophecies is mostly mele.. so the new ai changes affect it the most. Nightfall however seems to be specifically designed to allow for massive pulls with as small a number of mele in the groups as possible..
In nightfall pulls of 20+ baddies can have as few as 4 mele baddies in them... this makes for super fast farms.
This game was made to be farmed... they just make it hard to do.. and that is what can be fun and rewarding also.
In the end i say. find some good friends and farm with them.. because no matter what you do it will always be fun with friends. and you will become rich much faster than if you had been alone.
I dont care what anyone says about what genre the game falls into. No hero will ever account for the company and humor of a good friend farming partner.. I dont care how many times you can flag your heros away to get extra loot.
YOU REALLY CANNOT PUT A PRICE ON FRIENDSHIP.
madmonkey71
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Originally Posted by novawhiz
If you need quick, fast cash running is the way to go. Unstead if relying on bosses to drop greens you can always get cash from running. Droks runs now take like 15 min for dervishes and the going rate is 4k. Thats 60k in a little over an hour. Not bad.
Dude your multiplication is waaaay wrong ... 4 runs an hour @ 4k = 16k ... not as good as the 60k you originally thought 
I find the best way to get $$$'s is smite runs in the UW and sell the ecto's + chest drops if your lucky. Can do 2 - 4 runs an hours once you get into the zone. Best money that I've found so far...
Dude your multiplication is waaaay wrong ... 4 runs an hour @ 4k = 16k ... not as good as the 60k you originally thought I find the best way to get $$$'s is smite runs in the UW and sell the ecto's + chest drops if your lucky. Can do 2 - 4 runs an hours once you get into the zone. Best money that I've found so far...
cellardweller
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Originally Posted by madmonkey71
Dude your multiplication is waaaay wrong ... 4 runs an hour @ 4k = 16k ... not as good as the 60k you originally thought
You don't run 1 person at a time - he has allowed 15mins/hr to advisertise and get clients together. 4x3x5=60k/hr.
Farming-wise. I like the dragon roots outside st angelica's shrine - you can easily do 30 runs an hour at 1-2k each.
You don't run 1 person at a time - he has allowed 15mins/hr to advisertise and get clients together. 4x3x5=60k/hr.Farming-wise. I like the dragon roots outside st angelica's shrine - you can easily do 30 runs an hour at 1-2k each.
nghwee
My guess is that he's running 5 clients each time, not one by one.........
In any case, most droks runners would be lucky to get 5 clients within 15 mins (pop into beacons and see how long the runners spam). So more like 2 runs in an hr. And pray that there are no afkers or scammers.......
Ele smite run can tank any number of smites, and once properly pinned against a wall/ledge, everything dies in one combo.
Over large number of runs, I find the ecto drop rate to be consistently 3-4 ecto every 5 runs.
Nevertheless, quoted for truth:
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Originally Posted by theamazingfish
In any case, most droks runners would be lucky to get 5 clients within 15 mins (pop into beacons and see how long the runners spam). So more like 2 runs in an hr. And pray that there are no afkers or scammers.......
Ele smite run can tank any number of smites, and once properly pinned against a wall/ledge, everything dies in one combo.
Over large number of runs, I find the ecto drop rate to be consistently 3-4 ecto every 5 runs.Nevertheless, quoted for truth:
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In the end i say. find some good friends and farm with them.. because no matter what you do it will always be fun with friends. and you will become rich much faster than if you had been alone.
I dont care what anyone says about what genre the game falls into. No hero will ever account for the company and humor of a good friend farming partner.. I dont care how many times you can flag your heros away to get extra loot.
YOU REALLY CANNOT PUT A PRICE ON FRIENDSHIP. I've SS for some 55s who ended up being good friends. I doubt Olias and I share much interest despite having him on my team for most missions!
Iuris
Hey! When yesterday the call went out for nominations for new officers for the guild, I nominated Koss!
fb2000
Ok, Im also thinking about finally getting nightfall (it seems im starting to enjoy some gw now and then again), however Im not interested at all in groups, ie, i luv solo..
and then i keep hearing "zomg, its so hard, u cant solo anything", which i dont really believe, but anyway, just wanting to ask, is it really that hard/bad? that domain of torment thingie sounds ok? can u take at least heros with u there?
tho I did say i aint gonna give anet more money
PS. well if i keep getting code 13 Im not gonna buy it for sure :x
and then i keep hearing "zomg, its so hard, u cant solo anything", which i dont really believe, but anyway, just wanting to ask, is it really that hard/bad? that domain of torment thingie sounds ok?
can u take at least heros with u there? tho I did say i aint gonna give anet more money
PS. well if i keep getting code 13 Im not gonna buy it for sure :x
Eldin
Farming is pretty much dead in Tyria. FoW/UW is a nice source of income, but Europe is a favor hog as any American would know.
My reccomendations:
-You make a lot of money just playing through the game. My mes did some missions in maguuma and made an easy 10k just from the drops.
-New UW. I got in an awesome B/P group today, scored an ecto, Kole's Torment, a black dye, 700g from gold drops being split among the party, and a few more platinum worth of the other items.
-Running! If you have a ranger or warrior, nice way to make quick money if you have the time to master it.
-Troll Farming. It's one of the farming spots ANet doesn't care about enough to nerf. You make modest income (1-2k per run, each run ranges from 5-10 minutes). Just search for it, you can find guides to it everywhere.
My reccomendations:
-You make a lot of money just playing through the game. My mes did some missions in maguuma and made an easy 10k just from the drops.
-New UW. I got in an awesome B/P group today, scored an ecto, Kole's Torment, a black dye, 700g from gold drops being split among the party, and a few more platinum worth of the other items.
-Running! If you have a ranger or warrior, nice way to make quick money if you have the time to master it.
-Troll Farming. It's one of the farming spots ANet doesn't care about enough to nerf. You make modest income (1-2k per run, each run ranges from 5-10 minutes). Just search for it, you can find guides to it everywhere.
Arkantos
Deleted some spam. If you're just going to brag about getting money and not sharing how you got it, don't post.
Raaaaa
Currently i've been farming zelnehlun, can make 20-30k for a few runs with a few golds and even got 3 black dyes today. You can't sell the greens though, can barely even give them away, trust me I tried heh.
I want to do more UW/FOW or even DoA, but most groups want experiented players but I havn't really had the chance to get that yet
I want to do more UW/FOW or even DoA, but most groups want experiented players but I havn't really had the chance to get that yet
??Ripskin
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Originally Posted by Raaaaa
Currently i've been farming zelnehlun, can make 20-30k for a few runs with a few golds and even got 3 black dyes today. You can't sell the greens though, can barely even give them away, trust me I tried heh.
I want to do more UW/FOW or even DoA, but most groups want experiented players but I havn't really had the chance to get that yet That's what I do for my main income. But I'm going to try to figure out how to farm the thornroots because that sounds like a better income.
Right now, I farm zehnelhuns mob for drops (drops give 800 gold + in an average 3 minute run plus the usual chest) and uw with my tank, because it's too damn hard to farm it with my ele. Somehow I keep messing up, and dying
So I used my tank and it's just as fast if you can do it right.
I want to do more UW/FOW or even DoA, but most groups want experiented players but I havn't really had the chance to get that yet That's what I do for my main income. But I'm going to try to figure out how to farm the thornroots because that sounds like a better income.
Right now, I farm zehnelhuns mob for drops (drops give 800 gold + in an average 3 minute run plus the usual chest) and uw with my tank, because it's too damn hard to farm it with my ele. Somehow I keep messing up, and dying
So I used my tank and it's just as fast if you can do it right.
Razors Edge
Well, I don't know about anyone else but I'm farming Hydras off Augery Rock in Prophecies. Go ahead and call me a nub, I make about 2k+ a run, But I madea costom build for it which youc an't find on the internet, and its much faster then the ones you can. So I make about 10k an hour.
drupal
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But I madea costom build for it which youc an't find on the internet, and its much faster then the ones you can.
Sounds like you're then uber pwner. Why don't you share your build?
I can recommend doin quests in Nightfall, absolutely no problem to get money with it.
??Ripskin
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Originally Posted by Razors Edge
Well, I don't know about anyone else but I'm farming Hydras off Augery Rock in Prophecies. Go ahead and call me a nub, I make about 2k+ a run, But I madea costom build for it which youc an't find on the internet, and its much faster then the ones you can. So I make about 10k an hour.
Sooooo.... 10k an hour you say? lol...
I can make about 30-50k (depends on golds) in an hour off zehnelhuns. I usually don't because I get to the point of making 5k and saying, hey I wonder if that mission has people in it now... But anyways.. Is this the all golds and grapes awesome dragon moss farm people are talking about? Because I ran about 8-9 and this is probably the best drop. I didn't ever get a grape or gold, so I think this farm is pretty worthless. EDIT: oh yeah, fergot to say that screen took the time of casting enchants, running to mosses, and one SoJ charge. So I guess it's short, but still not enough profit.
yo home boi
Hey! i do that too with my VwK Rt... its quite a kool way of gettin cash
drupal
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Originally Posted by «Ripskin
Sooooo.... 10k an hour you say? lol...
He talks bullshit, Hydras, Minotaurs, Trolls don't drop that good loot like he describes.
Btw, your drops won't get better if you do that run over and over again. unknown1
I earned my money in the beginning by
buying and selling wood =) -> farming items (aka griffins or uw) -> farming greens -> now its "free chests" and event trading =/ i'm to lazy to farm nowadays. i have a load of money so i dont really care lol. i could of made 3 mill i think in the winter thing (2 mill minus the 1 mill expense) but i stayed with keeping some of the items instead (cause i had no money room). Chests and golds (i usually keep or sell to merchents =/ too lazy to sell to people)
Xiaxhou of Trinity
not quick enough with the event trading, horrible luck with UW/FoW drops, and not very good with selling things so no power trading for me. Event trading got me a 15k set, selling a stack of wintergreen CC for 60k, but right now I"m back to farming things. Working on a build to farm outside of mihanu township (lots of chests round there and you get 7 sunspear pts per kill). Otherwise I make some chump change off quests, vermin, trolls if im bored, kappa (hoping for that jade sword/longbow for my toons), and ice imps outside of grotto (1.5k+ with good chance for gold and chest off run).
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