WTF? Quebec non Elegible?

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

So Why arn't Quebec Participants Allowed to Enter the Design a Weapon Contest? That really Blows. A lot. And it Angers me. A lot.

Is there ANY WAY to Go around this? Loop hole? For example, if I send the Letter From Ontario? Or I don't know, Rent an Appartment overthere for a Month.

Its just not Fare. Same with the States. But Still, I don't see any reason why Quebec paricipants arn't allowed. So please tell me Why.

Demilikos

Demilikos

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Philippines

Maguuma Assassins [MagA]

Seriously? That's odd.

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

I know, Aperently It has to do With Something about Loto Quebec, But they regulate "le domaine des jeux de hasard et d'argent" - Gambling and Chance games.

Which this is not.

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

This is from a simple Google search. It's about a different contest, but explains why:

Quote:
When a contest is run in Quebec, it has to go through a separate body called the "Regis des Jeux et des Lotteries" before ANYTHING can be given away. This board is set up by the Quebec provincial government and imposes a tax on prize value. Anyone who runs a contest in Quebec has to give the Regis des Jeux et des Lotteries 10% of the prize value. Not only is this tax commission expensive, but also involves weeks of applications, justifications, and reports. Often, our sponsors can't wait 4-6 weeks to get approval from this body. So even though we would love to include contestants from Quebec, these restrictions present too many challenges.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Rhode Island has the same problem, so my guildmate can't enter either. Reason below from http://www.howstuffworks.com/question541.htm .

"Rhode Island is unique because the state law actually requires the company to file a legal statement before it can run a contest in that state. The statute, Section 11-50-1 of Rhode Island General Laws, reads:

"Any person, firm, or corporation proposing to engage in any game, contest, or other promotion or advertising scheme or plan in which a retail establishment offers the opportunity to receive gifts, prizes, or gratuities, as determined by chance, in order to promote its retail business, where the total announced value of the prizes offered to the general public is in excess of five hundred dollars ($500), must file a statement with the secretary of state."

The statute then details exactly what information must be included in the filed statement. In addition, the law requires the company pay a $150 filing fee. If a company runs a contest in Rhode Island, and fails to file a statement correctly, the company is actually guilty of a criminal misdemeanor!

For companies that want to run national contests, the filing fee alone means it's not really worthwhile to run the contest in Rhode Island, which has a fairly small population. When you add to that the hassle of researching Rhode Island law in order to file the statement correctly, very few national companies are going to bother. The term "retail establishment" is fairly vague, so it's not really clear if the law would apply to a non-retail Web site. It probably does, however, and for most sites, it's not worth the time to try to contact the state of Rhode Island secretary of state to find out."

Corran Horn

Corran Horn

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Alliance of Xen

R/Me

It sounds like there's some legislators out there that need to be fired. How do people that live in these states/provinces allow these laws to be passed?

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Force your french government to stop making silly french laws :P

Halmyr

Halmyr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada! eh!

~none~

W/Me

Well as a Canadian, I can say that this is not suprising for Quebc, they have always done thing diferently. But also note that Quebec has the Naponeonlic French law system, the rest of the Canada use's the english law.

Or something like that

KiyaKoreena

KiyaKoreena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Kirins of Holy Light

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Living in Quebec you should be used to it. Nearly every national contest by any company excludes residents of Quebec.

Hockster has it right, here's another quote for why not:
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Quebec has specific laws regulating contests. Among other things, Quebec law requires registration of contests. Therefore, contests offered in Canada should be voided in Quebec, or compliant with the Quebec Act Respecting Lotteries, Publicity Contests and Amusement Machines, and its concomitant regulations called the Rules Respecting Publicity Contests. One requirement - for example - is, that all material related to the contest has to be presented in English and French.
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So why not? Because it is too much of a pain to jump the hoops to include Quebec.

PS. Fair, not fare. You are not paying for a bus ride. :-)

Thanato

Thanato

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Quebec, Canada

Followers of the Faith

R/Me

Yes, it does suck, as I'm from Quebec as well, but then again I don't bother with contests in the first place, even those in Quebec. *goes off to eat a poutine*

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

This is why most contests and sweepstakes say "Void where prohibited or restricted".

99% of companies sponsering such things would rather just not let people from these places join in than jump through the government's Flaming Hoops and loss more money than they are already out too.

BenO_Under

BenO_Under

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Take A Ride On My Leet Train [Choo]

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Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie
Is there ANY WAY to Go around this? Loop hole? For example, if I send the Letter From Ontario? Or I don't know, Rent an Appartment overthere for a Month.
Well the apartment wouldn't be in Quebec so I would say yes. Or you could mail it to a friend who isn't in Quebec and ask him to mail it from there...

KoalaMeatPie

KoalaMeatPie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cute And Fluffy in My Tummy

Cult Classic [CC]

R/

Hum, So "in theory" I could mail My Submissions in A prePaid envlope to My Friend in Cali, Where she sends the Envelope to A Net, With her return adress.

And if a I win everything will be mailed to her.
but Truth be told, I realy don't care much for the T-Shirt (Skill Pins? yeah for fun, I wouldn't wear them) Character Slot? yeah, Sure., Weapon in game - Oh YEAH baby!

Would this Work - Gaile?

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

edit: Never mind, I just re-read it. It seems you really are ineligible to enter at all.

Does the ineligibility of players from commonwealths include players from Kentucky? Since it is the Commonwealth of Kentucky?

Also, our boys in military bases around the world are ineligible. That really bites.