Question About The Drake Drops

Ians

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ok question is ....Do drakes drop better when the team full of human players other than computer mercs.


I killed a island of drakes group full of human players and they droped about 2 yellow items and about 5 purple ones on one run.

I did the same run with computer played mercs and they drop very very rare never find 1 yellow one when i do them with computer controlled ones and when im lucky only 1 purple drops, and this is after many runs.

Just people been saying they have a better chance drop if there just human played chars in the group just wondering if its true.

Communist Robot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ians
Ok question is ....Do drakes drop better when the team full of human players other than computer mercs.


I killed a island of drakes group full of human players and they droped about 2 yellow items and about 5 purple ones on one run.

I did the same run with computer played mercs and they drop very very rare never find 1 yellow one when i do them with computer controlled ones and when im lucky only 1 purple drops, and this is after many runs.

Just people been saying they have a better chance drop if there just human played chars in the group just wondering if its true.
The deal with henches is, that those items COULD HAVE and probably DID drop, it just doesn't show up when you're with henchmen.
so your drops are still being split six ways with a 6 man group, you just can't tell what you don't get.

EDIT: clearing it up, henchmen drops % = same .. just doesn't show up when something drops.

A11Eur0

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

W/

Well the odds that a henchie group will give you rare items and you actually seeing them are slim. Because you hve to divvy up the spoils to 5 other crewmembers. If you have 5 other players, you'll notice more reare drops, because you'll notice more drops overall. I actually got 3 yellow drops doing a mission to Ventari's haven(?). I got one before that trying to do it with idiot team members, before I had to map travel back because 4 of my teammates left. So that makes 4 yellow items in the same area, same mission, in the spanse of a half hour. I was stoked.

Duin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

New Hampshire

i have noticed that the drop rates do change but as Communist Robot said, the items could have droped, just the henchmen "picked it up" because if u look closely when u pick up gold, the henchmen also get a cut in the profits. so it still is sharing with the Henchmen as if they were regulat pc's

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

thats so gay... what the hell are henchies gunna do with uber items? they wear stock stuff for gods sake! SADNESS!!!

Deagol

Deagol

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Denmark

Aparently, in the beginning (before the BWE's) monsters did make visible drops assigned o the henchmen. It was just so frustrating for the players when they saw some desirable drop they couldn't get that the henchmen drops was made invisible. At least with the other human players, you have a chance to trade for the item.

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

omg... that would of sucked so hardcore... good thing i wasnt an alpha tester eh? i would of FREAKED!!

but then again, Alpha testing would of been proness, cuz they got to play the betas every day, and they are just... gods...

but then again, so are beta testers...

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deagol
Aparently, in the beginning (before the BWE's) monsters did make visible drops assigned o the henchmen. It was just so frustrating for the players when they saw some desirable drop they couldn't get that the henchmen drops was made invisible. At least with the other human players, you have a chance to trade for the item.
Yea, that would have been extremely annoying if it was assigned to your henchmen. That awesome gold hammer of +10 health regen and +50 life and +20% damage drops... and it belongs to your healer! Then you go and cry. At least it saves you from the dissapointment.

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

lol... i *would* go and cry... that would just be so PATHETIC!! i wouldnt be able 2 handle it...


... does anyone have a problem with my "chat-talk"? i got a complaint from some anonymous person... ahem.... politely saying to stop doing it... but, im just so used 2 it, that i cant! so, if anyone has a problem with it, ill try and change.... i should create a poll, and see what ppl think..

wongba

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Alliance of Xen [XoO]

i wish they had kept the drops in actually. all u would have to do is wait awhile for the drops to lose their assigned drop name.

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

oh god.. thats right!

thats probably y they changed it..

Marus Varrus

Marus Varrus

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Alabama USA

Force of Arms

W/R

Yes say what you wnat but if you think of the henchies as real people they do desrve their cut. ALso it would penalize teams of real players only given a fraction of the loot they would get from partying with AI bots. The way it is now is fair it DOES NOT need to change. I would rather not know what the henchman get.

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

but, the henchies are NOT real people... and you SHOULD get EVERY drop...

its not right that the henchies get drops.. and Marcus, i WOULD like to see what the henchies get.. lol



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i just thought of something...

where do the items the henchies get go to?

theres probably like, this HUGE storage thing where all the items go to, and the AN team, and everyone who contributed to making GW can just pick and choose the "uber 1337" items, and pwn us with them.. lol just my thought

Marus Varrus

Marus Varrus

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Alabama USA

Force of Arms

W/R

but master the idea is that they represent real people and if they got nothing from the drops everyone would use henchman to get 6x as much loot than they would partying with friends. It would virtually kill what little community that now exists within the PvE game

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

thats true... your right i guess...

Granamyr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Aparently, in the beginning (before the BWE's) monsters did make visible drops assigned o the henchmen.
In the beginning, there weren't henchmen.

Henchmen don't cost any money to "hire" so they take their cut of the loot. Either that or pay them up front. Personally, I'd rather do the latter.

I've never gotten a rare when partied with henchmen and have seen very few purples as well. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of code that altered drops somewhat when partied with henchmen. There's enough anecdotal evidence out there to support this.

Ramus

Ramus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

Zero Tolerance

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Granamyr
In the beginning, there weren't henchmen.

Henchmen don't cost any money to "hire" so they take their cut of the loot. Either that or pay them up front. Personally, I'd rather do the latter.

I've never gotten a rare when partied with henchmen and have seen very few purples as well. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of code that altered drops somewhat when partied with henchmen. There's enough anecdotal evidence out there to support this.
I agree with that, the drop rate is so horrible whenever I am with henchman. I always get at least one-two purples in a drake group. I did not even receive a blue in three henchman runs.

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

It would be unfair to give us all the gold/items with a band of henchies.

They get paid by the share of gold and items that drop. It is frustrating sure, but it would be moreso to see the items that I cannot have...

There aren't really any 'uber' items anyway, just those that are more valuable merely due to color, like the golden/yellow items that are more valuable than purple, and purple more valuable than blue. The blue might have the same mods as a gold but be worth less due to the color alone...

Interesting way to think about it really...

Master Elyas

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

People Of The Dragon

W/Mo

yea... i guess the henchies get paid, cuz AN wanted it to be more... realistic.
but, they stopped the realism at the whole money and item thing... henchies should comment on stuff, like, say: "Don't worry Lord Of The Dawn! I'll save you!" or something like that... or, say stuff like rurik does when he goes to fight charr... except not as cheesy...

Zorque

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

So what is up with the whole drake hunting craze? I was at Gates of Kryta trying to get a party for the mission but everyone just wanted to do Drake runs. Are Drakes the best place to farm items? Seems like there would be even higher level creatures further down the road that drop better items.

Granamyr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Seems like there would be even higher level creatures further down the road that drop better items.
True, but it's your first chance to get somewhat consistent rare/purple drops and few people want to pass that up. Others that just love to amass wealth usually get stuck in Kryta because there's not a drake run they can pass up. That yellow drop is quite a rush!

It is very irritating for those focussed on the mission though because it is rather hard to complete with henchmen. Henchmen have the annoying tendancy to bathe in the poisonous swamp.....among other things.

As far as rares go, I'm pretty irritated that they all seem to be for the warrior class. I've gotten 5 rare drops: 1 axe, 2 hammers, 1 sword, 1 shield. I wonder if there is such a thing as a rare focus item?

codechino

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Granamyr
True, but it's your first chance to get somewhat consistent rare/purple drops and few people want to pass that up. Others that just love to amass wealth usually get stuck in Kryta because there's not a drake run they can pass up. That yellow drop is quite a rush!

It is very irritating for those focussed on the mission though because it is rather hard to complete with henchmen. Henchmen have the annoying tendancy to bathe in the poisonous swamp.....among other things.

As far as rares go, I'm pretty irritated that they all seem to be for the warrior class. I've gotten 5 rare drops: 1 axe, 2 hammers, 1 sword, 1 shield. I wonder if there is such a thing as a rare focus item?
if it makes you feel any better, im a warrior and all ive gotten are gold staves and rods.

Nim

Nim

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

USA.CT

PANiC AttAcK

E/Me

Every single mob that is killed drops an item or gold, Period. If you kill a mob and nothing seems to drop it is only because it was an item reserved for a henchman. You can prove this by going either with all human players and you will see every mob drop something, or go by yourself and you will get something from every mob. I dont believe there is any difference in the quality of drops with henchies vs humans, but, you will never be able to tell because you will never know what the henchie items were.

-Nim

Valin

Valin

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Order of the Stick

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by codechino
if it makes you feel any better, im a warrior and all ive gotten are gold staves and rods.
Well if it makes you feel any better, I'm a pure casting necro and all I've gotten is gold axes and swords!

Fye Duron

Fye Duron

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Chico, CA, USA

Dragon Fang

Personally I find that I am lucky if I get one purple item and I solo the whole thing with my 20 ranger/necro and my pet.

C-Tzar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

North AL, USA

E/Mo

Wow, nice thread resurrection.

mtxed

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

tdOt, Canada

W/Mo

I think this game is too random.. Sometimes I get more rare drops with a party of humans than when I farm alone.. Sometimes I get more when I farm alone.. Wish it would be more consistent either way