Proving it's not useless...

Everywhere I go in arenas I hear that my build is useless. Here I want to touch on my build vs. what people expect from an elementalist.

Here we have my build. It's a partial stoneflesh tank with 2 nukes and stone daggers for spammability.


Useless? No. I'll show you useless.

Here we have a water spiker. I've found that I *MIGHT* kill someone with it before I go pop.


Now I know what most of you are going to say so I'll get it out of the way.

Your build doesn't have enough damage!
Really? 42x2 = 84x5 = 420
and 35x2 = 70x5 = 350
420+350 = 770 in 10 seconds, before armor reduction of course. and 70 a second while both nukes are recharging.

Now let's look at that spiker build.

105+105 = 210 for shatterstone.
Assuming the opponent isn't enchanted...
210+143 = 353 in 3 seconds.
Assuming the opponoent gets an enchantment up...
210+71.5(let's assume 72 cause i've never seen half hp marks :P)= 282 in 3 seconds.

So 282 to 353 damage in 3 seconds + 74 for each ice spear means 948-1019 damage in 10 seconds without considering armor.

Your build doesn't have res signet!
So? I'm not going to die unless it's REALLY bad, why are you going to die? Are you going to be running the spiker setup and not even be able to use the res signet on me if I die because I'm using the same setup?

Ok that's not fair. Basically..I'd rather live myself and keep doing damage than carry around a res signet I can't use anyhow.

This is where I ask the community, what do you expect from your elementalists? And sit back to get flamed....

Both of those builds suck all sorts of ass.

For the earth build:

Your "nukes" rely on someone being enough of an idiot to stand in them for 5 seconds. Not only that, they're on a 30 second recharge and you have no snare to keep people in them.

Let's take a more careful look at your DPS. Assuming no one dodges it, you'll be hitting every 1.75 seconds while spamming. So that's 35*2/1.75 = 40 DPS, right at what an autoattacking warrior hits under IAS. Yay? The AoE has such a stupidly long recharge that it hardly adds any DPS. Your total is somewhere around 42ish DPS, which is barely better than autoattack, and we haven't even begun to factor in armor.

As for the rez sig, do you really think one skill on your bar is better than 7 skills on someone else's bar?

So, to sum it all up, you have crap damage, no utility for team defense (other than trying to catch warrior with eruption for the blind) and no rez. Yup, that build sucks.

For the water build, it's pretty much mandatory to run glyph of elemental power and icy prism instead of ice spear.

That gives you 115+115+159 damage in 3 seconds, with a 76 point afterspike hitting 1.75 seconds later, for a total of 465 damage in 3 seconds, which is *almost* enough for a clean spike on a 60 AL target.

Problem is, it has no utility, major energy problems, poor self defense (since it's a RA build) and a telegraphed spike(but at least you have a rez sig). Yup, while that build is a fun gimmick, it still sucks.

Oh, and also you use sup. energy storage, which means you fail at the game.

With the current metagame, I expect lots of utility (heal party, wards, blindbots, etc.) and snares on my eles. In groups, eles can spike effectively, but not on their own. AoE is currently semi-viable in PvE but generally worthless in PvP due to recharge and AoE size concerns.

Your entire post becomes null and void to me the moment you say "Oh, and also you use sup. energy storage, which means you fail at the game."

Have a nice day.

ok, ill try and discuss this. aside from the fact that your numbers ignore both casting time and aftercast, the fact that one deals AoE dmg while the other deals focused dmg, and that water spike is rather horrible, the thinking/math is still faulty.

by your own numbers: 770 dmg over 10 seconds = 77 dmg per second. while this number isnt even close to being right (casting time, aftercast, armor reduction, ability to step to the left and avoid all the dmg), ill humor things here and go with it. the water spike deals, at your low end, 282 over 3 seconds = 94 dmg per second. again, this number is also wrong (same reasons above). even if i use your flawed logic, the earth build still fails. so i dont get why you even brought that up. when you actually factor these things in, the earth build deals less dmg than an auto attacking warrior, especially if the enemy take a step to the left. the water spike is also bad, but at least has a half-hearted spike.

as for the rez issue, i dont get any of what you said, aside from that you dont want to bring one. ok... i dont even want to go into this...

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