Ok, although that I'm new to guild wars - I realise that 100 blades sucks. It is elite that is hardly better than cyclone axe. Its not Dragon Slash that makes it useless - it just undeniably shows how useless it is. Even one quivering blade is more usefull than 100 still ones.
The fact that it didn't at least receive minor damage bonus during the countless patches after A-net just accidently framed it golden shows that they have totally forgotten about this skill... as well as just about every warrior out there.
Still for some reason I want to run 100 blades sometimes just too look unique... still I'm not looking for the uniqueness of lvl 10 hero in the Underworld. I wan't to be at least halfway decent.
This is the best build I've come so far... its for PvE only where at least for me flail works ok, even without cancel stance.
Sword 12+1+4, Strength 10, Blood Magic 9.
Dark Fury
Unholy Feast
100 Blades [E...A-net, WTF, mates!?]
Barbarous Slice
Flail
Standing Slash
Gash
Sun and Moon Slash
Weapon: Zealous Sword of Defence (Can't afford perfect fortitude yet and I'm maximalist)
Off-Hand: 20% HSR Blood Focus of Fortitude (Since I have it anyways, though maybe +5 nrg^50% one will be better).
Will this build work (I can live without a ress and let's optimistically assume that Unholy feast will be enough of a selfheal) and are there any ways to make it better or if not - is there any other 100 blades build that you can recomend.
And please try to keep your posts at least a bit constructive... I know Dragon Slash+Sever+Gash+Sun and Moon is FTW, but I'm looking for 100 Blades that is at least FTV...E (For the victory... eventually).
97 Blades, 2 Forks and a Spoon
shaderaven
clawofcrimson
Its true its not the best elite... but in pve you work with what you got...I was running 100blades in profecies for a while (simply becasue its the only profecies sword elite) and this was the build that I used...
[card]sever artery[/card] [card]gash[/card] [card]hundred blades[/card] [card]conjure flame[/card] [card]inferno[/card] [card]healing signet[/card] [card]resurrection signet[/card]
It's not the best build out there... but it was fun in my virgin pve days...
[card]sever artery[/card] [card]gash[/card] [card]hundred blades[/card] [card]conjure flame[/card] [card]inferno[/card] [card]healing signet[/card] [card]resurrection signet[/card]
It's not the best build out there... but it was fun in my virgin pve days...
Prometheus8703
While 100 blades feels a bit underpowered as far as actual damage output goes, I found it to be useful for other applications. Namely, if your in a mob and you need adrenaline like yesterday, it works pretty well. Also, when used in conjunction with Vigorous Spirit or Live Vicariously or both it can be a life saver. The fact remains though, its no Triple Chop or Barrage so to speak. Then again, they are only hitting each target once.
Morzan_7
I can picture myself using this skill in a W/A build (if i can find room) to try and get adrenaline for Sever Artery and Gash. Using this skill would be the equivalent
of Bonetti's Defense against a team of warriors.
of Bonetti's Defense against a team of warriors.
A Leprechaun
Hundred blade kicks ass, its my sword elite of choice anyway.
(yay now people will come on shouting "DRAAAGON SLASH!", and tell how I am utterly wrong, and how I "Shouldnt be playing warrior without using dragon slash".)
~A Leprechaun~
(yay now people will come on shouting "DRAAAGON SLASH!", and tell how I am utterly wrong, and how I "Shouldnt be playing warrior without using dragon slash".)
~A Leprechaun~
ss1986v2
DRAAAGON SLASH!
ok, just kidding. i dont have anything against HB, just that it really seems to lack the proper punch. the axe line has cyclone and triple chop, which do pretty much the same thing, but have +dmg. HB just seams like a sorta semi-buffed sun and moon slash.
ok, just kidding. i dont have anything against HB, just that it really seems to lack the proper punch. the axe line has cyclone and triple chop, which do pretty much the same thing, but have +dmg. HB just seams like a sorta semi-buffed sun and moon slash.
Thom Bangalter
DRAAGONNNNNNNNNNN SLASHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Hundred blades sucks shit. The +damage is pretty pitiful, it costs energy, and the passive effect that makes it elite is useless too.
Hundred blades sucks shit. The +damage is pretty pitiful, it costs energy, and the passive effect that makes it elite is useless too.
Vermilion
Lol @ people forgetting about HB. OP, you must not RA much. That aside, conjure flame + HB hurts. But just run Sun and Moon Slash..
its over Nine thousannddddd
its over Nine thousannddddd
icedwhitemocha
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Originally Posted by A Leprechaun
Hundred blade kicks ass, its my sword elite of choice anyway.
(yay now people will come on shouting "DRAAAGON SLASH!", and tell how I am utterly wrong, and how I "Shouldnt be playing warrior without using dragon slash".)
~A Leprechaun~ I see you post this something like this in almost every warrior thread that mentions swords. It's your sword elite of choice because you value individuality over efficiency. Have fun with that while the rest of us actually kill stuff.
(yay now people will come on shouting "DRAAAGON SLASH!", and tell how I am utterly wrong, and how I "Shouldnt be playing warrior without using dragon slash".)
~A Leprechaun~ I see you post this something like this in almost every warrior thread that mentions swords. It's your sword elite of choice because you value individuality over efficiency. Have fun with that while the rest of us actually kill stuff.
glaz
although hundred blades may have its uses against clumped up mobs, pvp-wise (and in other portions of pve as well), sun and moon slash is a better skill imo. its adrenal and it cant be blocked.
this frees up your elite space for any skill of your choice (i.e. dragon slash, YAA, or even shadow prison as a W/A)
this frees up your elite space for any skill of your choice (i.e. dragon slash, YAA, or even shadow prison as a W/A)
qvtkc
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Originally Posted by shaderaven
Sword 12+1+4, Strength 10, Blood Magic 9.
Dark Fury
Unholy Feast
100 Blades [E...A-net, WTF, mates!?]
Barbarous Slice
Flail
Standing Slash
Gash
Sun and Moon Slash Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
Dark Fury
Unholy Feast
100 Blades [E...A-net, WTF, mates!?]
Barbarous Slice
Flail
Standing Slash
Gash
Sun and Moon Slash Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
shaderaven
Actually yes. Barbarous slice still does +damage while stanced and its bleed duration is long enough so the monster will be dead before its finished.
So you first slice him once to make it bleed and then start flailing at it and finish the combo.
Ofcourse I haven't tested the build yes, so I'm not saying it will work, but thats my reasoning why I think it will work.
So you first slice him once to make it bleed and then start flailing at it and finish the combo.
Ofcourse I haven't tested the build yes, so I'm not saying it will work, but thats my reasoning why I think it will work.
Coloneh
hundred blades is elite because of Illusionary weaponry. I believe it wasnt elite in beta, but people were abusing it so they made it elite.
shaderaven
By that reasoning cyclone axe should also be elite... and anyway - I'm not asking why it is elite - I'm asking what are the ways to use it.
qvtkc
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Originally Posted by shaderaven
Actually yes. Barbarous slice still does +damage while stanced and its bleed duration is long enough so the monster will be dead before its finished.
So you first slice him once to make it bleed and then start flailing at it and finish the combo.
Ofcourse I haven't tested the build yes, so I'm not saying it will work, but thats my reasoning why I think it will work. And then the one you are hitting drops and you turn to the next guy and you are still in Flail so you can't bleed him until it wears off, as I said, "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..."
So you first slice him once to make it bleed and then start flailing at it and finish the combo.
Ofcourse I haven't tested the build yes, so I'm not saying it will work, but thats my reasoning why I think it will work. And then the one you are hitting drops and you turn to the next guy and you are still in Flail so you can't bleed him until it wears off, as I said, "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo..."
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by shaderaven
By that reasoning cyclone axe should also be elite... and anyway - I'm not asking why it is elite - I'm asking what are the ways to use it.
how about no using it because it sucks? I tend to avoid mending, not ask "i know it sucks, but how should i use it?"
you really dont make much sense, get a useful elite and dump 100 blades.
you really dont make much sense, get a useful elite and dump 100 blades.
lambda the great
Aggro many many many many monsters adjacent to you, then swing sword with hundred blades to see many +1's and many dmg numbers topped with a cool body swing. My 2nd favorite skill.
zwei2stein
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Originally Posted by shaderaven
By that reasoning cyclone axe should also be elite... and anyway - I'm not asking why it is elite - I'm asking what are the ways to use it.
100b is elite because it allowed you to spike with iw (hit target 2 times with 100b, flurry for afterspike )
If you want use for it, you need build that
* needs lots of adren
* is not based on swordmaship attribute (100b does not scale damage or anything)
* and needs sword (otherwise you would uce cyclone axe or tis bigger brother)
Basically, only resonable use for 100b is fueling Riposte (and Deadly Riposte)
this used to be my favourite griffon farm build (i might have some skills wrong as fine tuned version was lost the day griffons became pointless, but this worked fine for farming griffon wings for scavenger hunt):
AxQRLjDVrb03BTY+yzrCyRC
merits: if you get last two-three monsters from group you can take them down really fast, bigger groups go down fast too...
You can alsot try to use [skill]Splinter Weapon[/skill] because you need only 2 enemies next to you to get all 4 triggers you can have as /Rt and you can create nice ~100 damage AOE spike every 8 seconds.
If you want use for it, you need build that
* needs lots of adren
* is not based on swordmaship attribute (100b does not scale damage or anything)
* and needs sword (otherwise you would uce cyclone axe or tis bigger brother)
Basically, only resonable use for 100b is fueling Riposte (and Deadly Riposte)
this used to be my favourite griffon farm build (i might have some skills wrong as fine tuned version was lost the day griffons became pointless, but this worked fine for farming griffon wings for scavenger hunt):
AxQRLjDVrb03BTY+yzrCyRC
merits: if you get last two-three monsters from group you can take them down really fast, bigger groups go down fast too...
You can alsot try to use [skill]Splinter Weapon[/skill] because you need only 2 enemies next to you to get all 4 triggers you can have as /Rt and you can create nice ~100 damage AOE spike every 8 seconds.
Katari
If you want to charge Riposte, Auspicous Parry is better, because if you're actually worrying about riposte, odds are you're fighting a boss or small melee mob solo.
Evilsod
It comes into its own when your purely the focus of all enemies. Can be good for farming builds, would charge up Riposte and Lions Comfort extremely quickly.
But other than that... its useless. I've heard the rumour that it use to be a regular skill but was made elite due to Illusionary Weapon making it so overly powerful... although it'd of been better to just give it an adren cost like they did with Sun and Moon. Can't gain adren if you can't hit.
As for Splinter Weapon. I guess it does have a use with 100blades. But so does Cyclone Axe/Triple Chop. You hit for alot more +damage and lose Ripostes... but its still probably alot stronger.
But other than that... its useless. I've heard the rumour that it use to be a regular skill but was made elite due to Illusionary Weapon making it so overly powerful... although it'd of been better to just give it an adren cost like they did with Sun and Moon. Can't gain adren if you can't hit.
As for Splinter Weapon. I guess it does have a use with 100blades. But so does Cyclone Axe/Triple Chop. You hit for alot more +damage and lose Ripostes... but its still probably alot stronger.
Ensign
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
I've heard the rumour that it use to be a regular skill but was made elite due to Illusionary Weapon making it so overly powerful...
It was a combination of that really unwarranted fear (back then it was like Dual Shot, each hit only doing 75% damage) - the developers were really afraid of IW Mesmers and a bunch of other irrelevant mechanics - and a lack of any sword elite for Prophecies. The latter part I'll respect, not having a sword elite would be pretty sad...but making the only sword elite weak is pretty sad as well.
That said the skill isn't completely useless, between the dual shot and cyclone axe effect you get a lot of hits out of the skill. To make it not suck utterly, you need to really be buffing your attacks with +damage. The Conjures are pretty good, as is Strength of Honor (potentially with Order of Pain from a caster) - those will let you get the most milage out of the extra attacks from Hundred Blades.
Peace,
-CxE
That said the skill isn't completely useless, between the dual shot and cyclone axe effect you get a lot of hits out of the skill. To make it not suck utterly, you need to really be buffing your attacks with +damage. The Conjures are pretty good, as is Strength of Honor (potentially with Order of Pain from a caster) - those will let you get the most milage out of the extra attacks from Hundred Blades.
Peace,
-CxE
Coloneh
the only real use i can see is a ginormous heal while solo farming with live vicariously+ vig spirit
pingu666
it strikes twice, so twice the adrenaline gain of say, tripple chop?
Coloneh
but how much adrenaline do you really need?
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by pingu666
it strikes twice, so twice the adrenaline gain of say, tripple chop?
Not quite. As of the last time i used it, it strikes all foes Adjacent to your TARGET. Whereas Cyclone Axe/Triple Chop strike all foes Adjacent to YOU. Unless your alone and have plenty of space to organise the mob into a nice organised group in front of you... its awful even for adren gain.
It should be buffed to all foes adjacent to you tbh, Cyclone can still gain more adrenaline and is non-elite. You can try to say that Triple Chop/Cyclone Axe uses 2 skills for what 100Blades gets in 1. That is 2 hits. Thing is those 2 skills only need 1 skill to cause Deep Wound, whereas 100blades would need 2. Over the course of which Axe would hit for alot more damage. Even if you said its for adren gain it can still be outshone by non-elites. If you said damage it still could be without huge buffs.
Its not even unblockable like Sun and Moon is now.
Its just too conditional, it needs the right agro, the right mob size, the right team build and the right skillbar on the enemies...
It should be buffed to all foes adjacent to you tbh, Cyclone can still gain more adrenaline and is non-elite. You can try to say that Triple Chop/Cyclone Axe uses 2 skills for what 100Blades gets in 1. That is 2 hits. Thing is those 2 skills only need 1 skill to cause Deep Wound, whereas 100blades would need 2. Over the course of which Axe would hit for alot more damage. Even if you said its for adren gain it can still be outshone by non-elites. If you said damage it still could be without huge buffs.
Its not even unblockable like Sun and Moon is now.
Its just too conditional, it needs the right agro, the right mob size, the right team build and the right skillbar on the enemies...
shaderaven
Can't they just make it cause bleeding and be done with it? Bleeding is hardly overpowering condition and the fact that it targets all enemies adjacent to your target instead to yourself will prevent it from being too good on solo farming, but it will circumvent the sword great weakness - deep wound aplication.
Cathode_Reborn
Why is Hundred Blades always bashed while Triple Chop always gets lots of praise?
[skill]Hundred Blades[/skill][skill]Triple Chop[/skill]
Triple Chop adds 42+damage, and hits all foes adjacent to you.
Hundred Blades strikes twice, meaning gaining adren much faster. The 2nd strikes also have the possibility of doing more than 42 damage if you hit a low-armor target.
Hitting foes adjacent to you can be helpful in some situations but hitting foes adjacent to your target is better in other times. Both are commonly used to gain adrenaline, but swords are much more adren-hungry than axes. It's not such a good idea for an axe-user to use his elite for gaining adrenaline faster since there's not many high-damage skills that require lots of adrenaline. Now compare to what a sword has.
Both of these skills arn't that great and there's better choices out there.
[skill]Hundred Blades[/skill][skill]Triple Chop[/skill]
Triple Chop adds 42+damage, and hits all foes adjacent to you.
Hundred Blades strikes twice, meaning gaining adren much faster. The 2nd strikes also have the possibility of doing more than 42 damage if you hit a low-armor target.
Hitting foes adjacent to you can be helpful in some situations but hitting foes adjacent to your target is better in other times. Both are commonly used to gain adrenaline, but swords are much more adren-hungry than axes. It's not such a good idea for an axe-user to use his elite for gaining adrenaline faster since there's not many high-damage skills that require lots of adrenaline. Now compare to what a sword has.
Both of these skills arn't that great and there's better choices out there.
Ser Jaremy Ryker
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Originally Posted by shaderaven
Can't they just make it cause bleeding and be done with it? Bleeding is hardly overpowering condition and the fact that it targets all enemies adjacent to your target instead to yourself will prevent it from being too good on solo farming, but it will circumvent the sword great weakness - deep wound aplication.
Bleeding (especially if it was applied to all the targets) would make it much more worthwhile in your skillbar as it would free up a skill slot as you wouldn't have to take the worthless sever-artery. HB then gash to start your spike. I also like the idea of striking foes adjacent to you instead of your target. Another possibility would be to lower the recharge time a few seconds. This is starting to sound like it should go into the Sardelac forum.
Katari
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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn
Why is Hundred Blades always bashed while Triple Chop always gets lots of praise?
Triple Chop is better because it has an easier to use AoE, and frequently does more damage than two sword hits would.
With Triple Chop, you get to wade in, and you just want stuff around you, not stuff directly in front of you as with 100blades. Depending on mob size, you often end up getting a similar amount of hits, despite 100blades hitting each target twice.
If you just want adrenaline, run D-Slash.
With Triple Chop, you get to wade in, and you just want stuff around you, not stuff directly in front of you as with 100blades. Depending on mob size, you often end up getting a similar amount of hits, despite 100blades hitting each target twice.
If you just want adrenaline, run D-Slash.
clawofcrimson
havent used 100 blades since my prof. pve days .... quite some time now... It definitely needs a buff... my vote is to add bleeding... the sardalec discussion is here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10124039
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10124039
noocoo
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
I've heard the rumour that it use to be a regular skill but was made elite due to Illusionary Weapon making it so overly powerful... although it'd of been better to just give it an adren cost like they did with Sun and Moon. Can't gain adren if you can't hit.
Yup, I also heard it before. However, I totally don't understand why [skill]Illusionary Weaponry[/skill] with [skill]Hundred blades[/skill] become overpower.
It is just a ridiculous excuse
It is just a ridiculous excuse
qvtkc
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
although it'd of been better to just give it an adren cost like they did with Sun and Moon. Can't gain adren if you can't hit.
Ok. [skill]"To the limit!"[/skill]
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by noocoo
Yup, I also heard it before. However, I totally don't understand why [skill]Illusionary Weaponry[/skill] with [skill]Hundred blades[/skill] become overpower.
It is just a ridiculous excuse its so you cant deal out 80+ armor ignoring damage every few seconds for 5 energy. its not a ridiculous excuse at all.
It is just a ridiculous excuse its so you cant deal out 80+ armor ignoring damage every few seconds for 5 energy. its not a ridiculous excuse at all.
Retribution X
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
its so you cant deal out 80+ armor ignoring damage every few seconds for 5 energy. its not a ridiculous excuse at all.
Umm, Iron Palm + Exhuasting assualt?
That's not an elite combo, uses daggers, (Which, incidently have an overall FASTER attack speed than a sword), and you can poison people with an Me/A...
Don't tell me it's elite for that reason...
That's not an elite combo, uses daggers, (Which, incidently have an overall FASTER attack speed than a sword), and you can poison people with an Me/A...
Don't tell me it's elite for that reason...
Retribution X
Damn. Doublepost. Sorry 'bout that.
*Damned internet*
*Damned internet*
Demonspitfir
For 100 Blades it all depends on the ammount of enemies around you at a time. Such as if you were to pop into a PvP/PvE mob and you are able to add a + Dmg to your weapon then Pop 100 Blades (5 Energy) on then jump down in with 'Ride the Lighting' and pop on Inferno or some good Nuking. You would or Could do some serious damage.
Just Remember Kiddies the adults at A-Net know how to make games, 100 Blades is an Experience Skill that means you must know how to use it to kick ass with it.
Just Remember Kiddies the adults at A-Net know how to make games, 100 Blades is an Experience Skill that means you must know how to use it to kick ass with it.
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by Retribution X
Umm, Iron Palm + Exhuasting assualt?
That's not an elite combo, uses daggers, (Which, incidently have an overall FASTER attack speed than a sword), and you can poison people with an Me/A...
Don't tell me it's elite for that reason... That cost more than 5 energy, and has a LONG recharge
That's not an elite combo, uses daggers, (Which, incidently have an overall FASTER attack speed than a sword), and you can poison people with an Me/A...
Don't tell me it's elite for that reason... That cost more than 5 energy, and has a LONG recharge
XxUberMonkeyxX
sever - gash - final thrust needs alot of adrenaline, HB enables you to gain the adrenaline that you need for final thrust w/o the use of a attack speed buff assuming that you have 2 or 3 foes adjacent to each other....
also with HB giving you adrenaline that you need for final thrust or close to that, you can deliver a quick spike to a target where as you build you adrenaline on a target but when you focus your power on 1 target you would normally kill that target before you even get 7 or 8 strikes of adrenaline
also with HB giving you adrenaline that you need for final thrust or close to that, you can deliver a quick spike to a target where as you build you adrenaline on a target but when you focus your power on 1 target you would normally kill that target before you even get 7 or 8 strikes of adrenaline
lambda the great
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonspitfir
Just Remember Kiddies the adults at A-Net know how to make games, 100 Blades is an Experience Skill that means you must know how to use it to kick ass with it.
hellllllllllllllllll yyyeeesssshhhhhhh
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by Demonspitfir
For 100 Blades it all depends on the ammount of enemies around you at a time. Such as if you were to pop into a PvP/PvE mob and you are able to add a + Dmg to your weapon then Pop 100 Blades (5 Energy) on then jump down in with 'Ride the Lighting' and pop on Inferno or some good Nuking. You would or Could do some serious damage.
Just Remember Kiddies the adults at A-Net know how to make games, 100 Blades is an Experience Skill that means you must know how to use it to kick ass with it. Eh? 100Blades... the elite.... Then Ride the Lightning the foes your adjacent to already.... another elite... then Inferno? Wtf?
100blades does not depend on the foes around you, it depends on the foes standing directly in front of you within 5cm of the foe you just targetted.
That second statement was just lame... grow up.
At qvtkc. Stop been stupid. By the time you'd gained 8 adren to use Sun n Moon you could've won the fight already.
Just Remember Kiddies the adults at A-Net know how to make games, 100 Blades is an Experience Skill that means you must know how to use it to kick ass with it. Eh? 100Blades... the elite.... Then Ride the Lightning the foes your adjacent to already.... another elite... then Inferno? Wtf?
100blades does not depend on the foes around you, it depends on the foes standing directly in front of you within 5cm of the foe you just targetted.
That second statement was just lame... grow up.
At qvtkc. Stop been stupid. By the time you'd gained 8 adren to use Sun n Moon you could've won the fight already.