Anti farm code global?
Yuan
Would the anti farm code be global? For example, if you farm so much in one spot, the anti farm code kicks in and then you change spots, would it be there also? I couldn't find the answer using search.
Coloneh
no, thats what the anti-farm code is, reduced drops in the area. its really pretty simple.
BuD
Is it character based? Say my ele that has finished all campaigns starts getting poor drops, Would doing missions/quests on my ranger reset the farm code for my ele?
wetsparks
Yes because you are doing things besides killing everything in a certain zone.
DeanBB
The anti-farm code is fuzzy, I've never seen any definitive documentation on it. My experience is that it is per-character, not per-account. If you over-farm an area with one character it only affects that zone with that toon, other zones or toons are not affected by it.
Take that character through a mission or run some quests or whatever to reset things.
Take that character through a mission or run some quests or whatever to reset things.
CDittric77
^speculation?
I know the anti-farm warning suggests you run through the area fully a few times and then things will go back to normal. That's about all I've seen as 'official' documentaion.
I know the anti-farm warning suggests you run through the area fully a few times and then things will go back to normal. That's about all I've seen as 'official' documentaion.
Aerian_Skybane
Every single time I have encountered it, I just went to another area, ran around killing stuff, did a mission, whatever. Then when drops were regular there, I went back and would continue farming whatever I was. Thats all there is to it. its to stop over farming, giving a chink of breaks between super-farmers.
And no, it is not global, I have tested it. It applies to the area, and once you start doing other stuff it starts to "fade away". My other characters were never effected by it.
And no, it is not global, I have tested it. It applies to the area, and once you start doing other stuff it starts to "fade away". My other characters were never effected by it.
VitisVinifera
it's always going to be anecdotal evidence, because if anet releases this kind of info, it'll be programmed right into bots.
So my anecdotal evidence points that it is indeed character-based, not account. My necro farmed the hell out of mabah and mindstealer, then my first warrior run at leilon got the green scythe (thank god, not an easy boss to get to)
So my anecdotal evidence points that it is indeed character-based, not account. My necro farmed the hell out of mabah and mindstealer, then my first warrior run at leilon got the green scythe (thank god, not an easy boss to get to)
Yuan
From personal experience it appears that the anti farming code applies globally to areas that you have previously farmed a lot before.
For example, let's say you farm areas A, B, C a lot. Anti farm code kicks in, you stop, do some missions. You come back to farming. You farm area A let's say, 2-3 times, the anti farm code kicks in for A but at the same time it kicks in to a lesser or same degree to areas B and C too.
It wouldn't kick in for areas you farmed to a lesser extent. So you could just farm 1 area among the A, B, C areas and then go farm area D.
Of course I could be wrong, but this seems to be the case for me.
For example, let's say you farm areas A, B, C a lot. Anti farm code kicks in, you stop, do some missions. You come back to farming. You farm area A let's say, 2-3 times, the anti farm code kicks in for A but at the same time it kicks in to a lesser or same degree to areas B and C too.
It wouldn't kick in for areas you farmed to a lesser extent. So you could just farm 1 area among the A, B, C areas and then go farm area D.
Of course I could be wrong, but this seems to be the case for me.
Fenrus
But how does the game differentiate "farming" vs simply clearing areas to explore and or complete missions?
I spend alot of time in various areas clearing (ie killing every red dot) just because I think its amusing, but if I make multiple passes through a given area, like Factions requires you to... would that kick in the anti-farming code, even if its not farming... just happen to be clearing the path?
I spend alot of time in various areas clearing (ie killing every red dot) just because I think its amusing, but if I make multiple passes through a given area, like Factions requires you to... would that kick in the anti-farming code, even if its not farming... just happen to be clearing the path?
Antheus
Anti-farming code pops up a big message box, basically saying: STOP FARMING.
Then you drops become pitiful, such as one non-max white item per 50 kills.
That's all there is to it. There is no other mythical anti-farming code. Switch areas, and it's gone.
Then you drops become pitiful, such as one non-max white item per 50 kills.
That's all there is to it. There is no other mythical anti-farming code. Switch areas, and it's gone.
Sophitia Leafblade
Im pretty sure i have permanent anti farming code even though i next to never farm cause i hate farming. I hardly ever get drops and when i do there always no good 
either that or i have terrible luck or Anet just hates me 
either that or i have terrible luck or Anet just hates me
Fenrus
Yeah, I've never been much of a farmer either. I tried once a long time ago with a 55monk, back before they changed the AI so that 55monk really have a hard time farming droks trolls solo. But I haven't farmed anything since then.
Lately I was on a mission to acquire a Ghail's Staff for my necro so I have been attempting to farm him, but seems the jade bracelets are all I get after some 20+ attempts.
But this has not been just straight farming. Factions has been completed by 3 char's during this timeframe, and the toon I was trying to acquire the staff with is also performing Nightfall missions and various Faction quests in between attempts.
I've not rec'd any anti-farming popups, but then I have hints turn off also. So perhaps I just have $*!# luck.
Lately I was on a mission to acquire a Ghail's Staff for my necro so I have been attempting to farm him, but seems the jade bracelets are all I get after some 20+ attempts.
But this has not been just straight farming. Factions has been completed by 3 char's during this timeframe, and the toon I was trying to acquire the staff with is also performing Nightfall missions and various Faction quests in between attempts.
I've not rec'd any anti-farming popups, but then I have hints turn off also. So perhaps I just have $*!# luck.
Vandal2k6
I think the anti farming code is bollocks. I farm the UW and have done for the last two weeks and my drops are as good as day one. Infact, only yesterday I got three ectos from the first group of five smites. Add to that golds and black dyes over the last couple of days. Before that I was trying to farm greens in NF and got drops on a regular basis.
I think it's just down to pure luck.
I think it's just down to pure luck.
isamu kurosawa
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I think the anti farming code is bollocks.
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Etta
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I think the anti farming code is bollocks.
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, well said Guv! Well said indeed.
HawkofStorms
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Im pretty sure i have permanent anti farming code even though i next to never farm cause i hate farming. I hardly ever get drops and when i do there always no good
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Painbringer
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You see, that's the thing people don't understand about farming. Farming isn't about getting the 1337 gold sword you can sell for 100k + ecto. That's only if you get lucky. Most farming is just you killing stuff over and over again so you can sell all the white and blue weapon drops. You'd be surprised how fast it can all build up.
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Master Sword Keeper
The anti-farm code is very much a reality. Should players over-farm an area. A certain web protocol kicks in and drastically reduces the % of drops. Take UW and FoW. Ectoplasm used to drop 30-45% when solo. Soon as people started solo'ing. The % got lower and lower. The % increases with the amount of people not solo'ing or fighting in these areas.
Take America Vs. Europe. (Favor wars). When America is offline. Europe's % of drops goes up. Since there are not enough players to implement to code kick. Or when we have events such as XMAS or Dragonfestival. Both Country servers will experience decreased drop ratios. That's why drop rates in hardens areas such as Areas with: Enchant strippers, interupters and disablists. These areas drop ratios are always 70-100% drop ratio when solo.
Solo'ing vehjin mines or UW,FoW just brings ratios down. That's pretty much that. I know this. I used to run an RPG server a little while ago.
Anet doesnt hate you. The system is built around solid code.
Whatever change ANET makes is usually to even out the game.
These NERF's that everyone is seeing is evolution not a bug.
Such as AI. these ai are designed to act on their own.
Standard Robotics 101.
Take America Vs. Europe. (Favor wars). When America is offline. Europe's % of drops goes up. Since there are not enough players to implement to code kick. Or when we have events such as XMAS or Dragonfestival. Both Country servers will experience decreased drop ratios. That's why drop rates in hardens areas such as Areas with: Enchant strippers, interupters and disablists. These areas drop ratios are always 70-100% drop ratio when solo.
Solo'ing vehjin mines or UW,FoW just brings ratios down. That's pretty much that. I know this. I used to run an RPG server a little while ago.
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Whatever change ANET makes is usually to even out the game.
These NERF's that everyone is seeing is evolution not a bug.
Such as AI. these ai are designed to act on their own.
Standard Robotics 101.
Another Felldspar
A link to a thread where Gaile described the farming code. It was actually posted in reference to instanced maps and triple green weekends, but there is still some good information about the farming code in Gaile's post. You might have to hunt through a load of belly-aching to find it though.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0075774&page=4
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0075774&page=4
xromania???
i had low drops but im kinda new, is a warn on screen when this anti bla bla is activated? or it start "hidden" and we just can guess it>?
manitoba1073
There are a few myths about the farming code. according to anet a farming code DOES NOT EXIST. it is however an ANTI BOT CODE.
which if you have hints enabled it will pop up in a hint window.
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Wrong.
Other people farming the same area do not affect YOUR specific drop rate in that area, unless the person WITH you also overfarms the area.
I am sick of these silly rumors about farming nerfs and such. The ONLY thing that will affect a person's actual drop rate is that persons frequency of farming the same location/boss. If you do it too often and too frequent you will physically get a message about it.
Each persons explorable/farmable zone is instanced, so they alone affect their drop rate.
For the OP specifically, i can guarantee that the boss had dropped the green at LEAST once, likewise i can guarantee that one of your heroes got it, and since we don't get to see what henchies and heroes get from drops, you may never know...
Honestly, if you want the best chances, assimilate a solo build or a 2 man build, go with a friend and farm him at MOST 20 times in a row. This might even trigger the code. At the end of that run do a mission, then come back and try again. Also, rather then zoning out when going for another run, type /resign instead, this somehow helps to delay the farming code.
So, once again, the person ALONE is responsible for THEIR drop rates from areas...
cheers!
this is as close as the truth of what affects drops .
which if you have hints enabled it will pop up in a hint window.
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Wrong.
Other people farming the same area do not affect YOUR specific drop rate in that area, unless the person WITH you also overfarms the area.
I am sick of these silly rumors about farming nerfs and such. The ONLY thing that will affect a person's actual drop rate is that persons frequency of farming the same location/boss. If you do it too often and too frequent you will physically get a message about it.
Each persons explorable/farmable zone is instanced, so they alone affect their drop rate.
For the OP specifically, i can guarantee that the boss had dropped the green at LEAST once, likewise i can guarantee that one of your heroes got it, and since we don't get to see what henchies and heroes get from drops, you may never know...
Honestly, if you want the best chances, assimilate a solo build or a 2 man build, go with a friend and farm him at MOST 20 times in a row. This might even trigger the code. At the end of that run do a mission, then come back and try again. Also, rather then zoning out when going for another run, type /resign instead, this somehow helps to delay the farming code.
So, once again, the person ALONE is responsible for THEIR drop rates from areas...
cheers!
this is as close as the truth of what affects drops .
Vandal2k6
Well, I don't understand it then. Because I've farmed the arse out of the UW this last week and last night I got three ectos from one run. Plus a gold the run before (even though it was a shite devine staff). What does the code affect? Every enemy drops something in a UW solo. Is the WHAT they drop? If so, again I can't see it. Ectos are the one thing people go to places like the UW for and I can near guarentee 10 a day with leasurely farming (going in about 5 times ish). Just a mention that I haven't done anything else this couple of weeks bar UW soloing so I've not "worked back" the code either.
If I'm this lucky, then I think I'll put the lottery on this week.
If I'm this lucky, then I think I'll put the lottery on this week.
Losttoapathy
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Well, I don't understand it then. Because I've farmed the arse out of the UW this last week and last night I got three ectos from one run. Plus a gold the run before (even though it was a shite devine staff). What does the code affect? Every enemy drops something in a UW solo. Is the WHAT they drop? If so, again I can't see it. Ectos are the one thing people go to places like the UW for and I can near guarentee 10 a day with leasurely farming (going in about 5 times ish). Just a mention that I haven't done anything else this couple of weeks bar UW soloing so I've not "worked back" the code either.
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I guess some people are luckier than others I suppose. During the free UW/FOW weekend I was farming UW somewhat "leasurely", clearing it say 5 or 6 times in one day. Not once did I ever get 3 ectos during one run, nevermind on the smites. On occasion I got 2 ectos. One time I even got a ruby. (Pointless anecdote, I know. ^^) Anyway there were times when I would clear the whole thing and not get even 1 ecto. Not that I'm complaining, as each run netted me with around 5k, which quickly builds up. I don't think I've activated the code either as there were many times when I would exit the game after a run and wouldn't return for a couple of hours or whatever. Hopefully the loot will be enough to buy the ectos I need for that precious armor I've been after for ages.
All about luck. ^^
manitoba1073
Now if you want to talk about the type of drops then your getting into a whole new ballgame. remember drops are way over random.
as an example.
we'll say common stuff drops 75% time, purple types drop 20% , then rare stuff drops 5% from a single creature. plus or minus 3% depending on what activites you were currently doing. so if that char was just going in doing ataxxs then u could drop that chance for ecto down to 2% chance of dropping. Thats with the anti bot code kicked in. However no matter what anet has ever said there is an anti farm type of code. notice on my previous post i said according to anet there isnt one. however ur % for a rare will never drop below the 1% chance for any 1 creature. so u may have a long streak of luck and hitting that 1% chance for a drop or you could have a long run of not hitting it.
hope that helps alittle.
as an example.
we'll say common stuff drops 75% time, purple types drop 20% , then rare stuff drops 5% from a single creature. plus or minus 3% depending on what activites you were currently doing. so if that char was just going in doing ataxxs then u could drop that chance for ecto down to 2% chance of dropping. Thats with the anti bot code kicked in. However no matter what anet has ever said there is an anti farm type of code. notice on my previous post i said according to anet there isnt one. however ur % for a rare will never drop below the 1% chance for any 1 creature. so u may have a long streak of luck and hitting that 1% chance for a drop or you could have a long run of not hitting it.
hope that helps alittle.
=HT=Ingram
lol yea its always funny when someone like me that rarely farms anything at all, goes with a farming group and a mess of greens drop for me. lol Everyone says I must hack or something cause nearly every chest (with treasure hunter title on) is gold and majority my drops are really good.
Its just I don't go there often is all like they do... So when I do, My chances are better then the people that farm it all the time... Thats all.. 90% of the time I just drop it back on the ground for someone else to have, cause I do it more for something to do with friends then for the farming. lol And I am not a fan of the meta inflation game within GW.. So its not worth it to me to keep unless I have a character in need of something better. (RARE)
I enjoy just dropping a Fleshweaver or a Razorstone for people when I get it, and they are all ARE YOU NUTS??? lol I'm like Naw, my customized Nightfall Collector weapons are better and I can mod them. so knock yourself out... and then they fight over whos gonna get em lol Its just funny to me is all. lol
Its just I don't go there often is all like they do... So when I do, My chances are better then the people that farm it all the time... Thats all.. 90% of the time I just drop it back on the ground for someone else to have, cause I do it more for something to do with friends then for the farming. lol And I am not a fan of the meta inflation game within GW.. So its not worth it to me to keep unless I have a character in need of something better. (RARE)
I enjoy just dropping a Fleshweaver or a Razorstone for people when I get it, and they are all ARE YOU NUTS??? lol I'm like Naw, my customized Nightfall Collector weapons are better and I can mod them. so knock yourself out... and then they fight over whos gonna get em lol Its just funny to me is all. lol
Malice Black
Anit-Farm code doesn't exsist. It's called the Anti-Bot code and starts to take effect when you begin to act like a bot IE repeat farming of the same area.