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Dex

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Black Belt Jones

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02 Mar 2007 at 01:23 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

For the OP:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321637
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/330182

Go to http://ati.amd.com and go to their Driver Download section. Match your model card and get the drivers ONLY download.

If you recently upgraded the graphics card, you still need to uninstall your old drivers. Go ahead and uninstall any/all graphics drivers you have installed.

When you reboot, it will be on Windows default drivers and your screen resolution will most likely be 640x480. Cancel out of any "New Hardware Detected" screens, install your new drivers and reboot for them to apply.

Hmmmmm......I seem to recall somebody else suggesting that....who was that again......they even linked to the page and gave instructions......I can't remember....

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easyg

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Mo/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 04:55 - 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dex

Uh oh. Something might have died on you. You are getting power, though, right? Your fans power up, power light turns on, etc.? If not it's probably your power supply. If so, it could be a lot of things. Do you get any beeps?

Here's the first thing I would try in that situation: pull out all of your expansion cards except for the video card and unplug all of your drives (hard disk, optical drives, etc.). Make sure the video card, memory, and all remaining cables are seated properly. See if it will POST with the bare-minimum hardware (PSU, motherboard, memory, CPU, and video card). If not, one of those 5 things has died. The video card is a likely suspect, but if you've gone through 2 of them it could also be something else. It's also possible that your PSU has a problem and is now proceeding to fry your other components. Let's hope it's something simple.

If you're not seeing the POST screens on your monitor there isn't much hope of seeing anything that comes after that (like Windows...safe mode or no).

Clear CMOS. Could be something as simple as incorrect BIOS settings causing the machine to fail to POST.

MegaMouse

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02 Mar 2007 at 06:11 - 43

If your machine wont post then something has gone horribly wrong and it may be time to take iot to a qualified repair teck (DO NOT TAKE IT TO BEST BUYS GO TO A SHOP THAT DEALS WITH COMPUTERS AS THEIR MAIN INCOME). To me it sounds as if your motherboard may have taken a hit or even teh power supply is now failing. These 2 things can cause the failed post.

Mega Mouse

Dex

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Black Belt Jones

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02 Mar 2007 at 09:16 - 44

Quote:

Originally Posted by easyg

Clear CMOS. Could be something as simple as incorrect BIOS settings causing the machine to fail to POST.

It's worth a try. Unfortunately in my experience it's more likely that something more physical is amiss...especially given the BSOD's he was experiencing leading up to the failure.

The Fremen Emperor

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Dudele Dulci

Mo/Me

02 Mar 2007 at 11:30 - 45

Usually, if your computer doesn't work this is what you should do:
1. make sure you have the speaker connected to the motherboard, and check if it makes any kind of sounds(something like a double beep, or a prolonged beep); if there is something wrong with the memory or the video card there should be a beep.
2. if there is no sound, try starting the computer without the memory installed and see if it makes any kind of sounds
3. if there is still no sound try reseting the BIOS(check the manual for that) and then start your computer(with the memory not installed)
4. if there is still no sound then you should consider that there is something wrong either with the processor or the motherboard, and if that is the case you should buy a new one or see a repair service.

Fungus Amongus

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02 Mar 2007 at 12:05 - 46

I get no beeps. Occasionally I get an orange light, sometimes it's green. It's supposed to be green. I put a new PSU in it and assuming the new one isn't faulty.

I'll try The Fremen Emperor's suggestions. I'll also see if I can find the manual and reset the BIOS. If that doesn't do it then I'll just give the thing over to someone to repair it.

Thanks guys,
Fungus

blingdudel

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02 Mar 2007 at 15:21 - 47

ok so im updating the drivers im using another computer for now BUT another thing the name of the thread.......sigh i posted this thread weeks ago as "Computer crash help!" i got 4 looks in 2 weeks 1 reply so you can kinda see why i exagerated it! SORRY!

Tarun

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02 Mar 2007 at 16:58 - 48

I like how your thread got hijacked by someone with a totally unrelated issue.

Dex

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Black Belt Jones

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02 Mar 2007 at 22:01 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

I like how your thread got hijacked by someone with a totally unrelated issue.

Perhaps Fungus should start his own thread and the OP can get us back on track by letting us know how his driver update went...

...and then we're going to refuel, turn this thread around, and head for Beirut!!! Don't anyone try to be a hero or blingdudel gets it!

Fungus Amongus

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03 Mar 2007 at 00:53 - 50

I had no intentions of hijacking this thread. I was experiencing the same issues as the OP. Mine escalated into worse perhaps from not addressing the issue when I first had the problem. Hopefully the OP will fix his issue before he ends up like me. If his problem does escalate another thread won't be necessary. I laso wasn't expecting to get as much feedback from my post(s) as I did. My problems are pretty narrowed down, thus I needn't ask anymore questions here. If I do need more help then I'll start a new thread.

blingdudel

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06 Mar 2007 at 19:39 - 51

ok so today im gonna check my fan then update my drivers as a precaution sorry for the delay i wasnt admin for month for some reason AND its ok to hijack my thread fungus!

Dex

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Black Belt Jones

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06 Mar 2007 at 20:03 - 52

Just updating your drivers is likely to solve your problem. Let us know if you need help.

Liberations

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06 Mar 2007 at 20:37 - 53

LOL omg this happened to me and I figured out why:
2 reasons:
1. My drivers weren't updated (maybe, not sure)
2. My PC was full of dust bunnies

. Really, thats all there was to it, but it took me quite a few weeks trying to fix it. Try that, if it doesn't work, contact NCSoft and send em what they tell you to.

Hope you appreciate my two cents :P

blingdudel

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Mo/R

07 Mar 2007 at 21:40 - 54

I lose my pc wont start i got my dad to unistall the catalyst centre and a quarter way through (it was very slow) it DIED (BSOD) usally there is app e.g. ATIduag03.dll but theres was only a number. Now my pc wont even load the dell bit (the bar before windows starts). So now i have all the numbers on my actull computer, and when my pc TRYS to start the troubleshoooter i printed off says its a "Total Computer Crash".

So now im thinking my RAM crash from before has fallen into the equation! If any1 can help me on what to do PLZ do.

note: i cant get into safe boot i dont even get that far!

EternalTempest

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07 Mar 2007 at 21:46 - 55

If you want to check your ram - here is a free utility you can use to check it:
http://www.memtest.org/

Tachyon

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07 Mar 2007 at 21:53 - 56

Here's a wacky sugestion. I notice that on your original post your XP is not activated, have you tried activating it yet? Or is it a case of you've got a dodgy copy and therefore can't activate it?

blingdudel

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08 Mar 2007 at 19:43 - 57

yh i wasnt sureof that bit i was wondering gona check now AND it was the RAM that caused the crash ime now running 512MB!

Ive updated my graphics card driver BUT they catalyst control centre wont install ive just installed netframe 2 and it installs but doesnt run and only uses 0.2MB so im screwed again!

GOnna go activate windows now even thoiu ive done before

blingdudel

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Mo/R

08 Mar 2007 at 19:48 - 58

Im just wondering about the activating windows ive had it since christmas so why wouldnt it be activated as i know ive already done it!

Dex

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Black Belt Jones

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08 Mar 2007 at 19:54 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by blingdudel

yh i wasnt sureof that bit i was wondering gona check now AND it was the RAM that caused the crash ime now running 512MB!

Ive updated my graphics card driver BUT they catalyst control centre wont install ive just installed netframe 2 and it installs but doesnt run and only uses 0.2MB so im screwed again!

GOnna go activate windows now even thoiu ive done before

Huh?

blingdudel

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08 Mar 2007 at 20:45 - 60

look at the first page and my first post (the actuall thread begginning) it says windows activating needed 30 days remaining! The only thing is that it doesnt change its still 30 days remaining and how can i activate windows when im using it

! Sorry bout last post confusing ill make it clear! First i unistalled the graphics stuff blah blah blah.... but half way thorugh it crashed so now im running 512MB in my pc while i figure out which stick isnt working!

Then installing the new one was trouble i had to install netframe version 2 to make catalyst centre install. But catalyst centre wont install PROPERLY the download size is 23MB but on computer 0.2MB it downloads 23MB thou.
The actually driver installs fine but my dad wants the catalyst ceter on there SO here i am doing windows updates its taking 1 hour for 2 updates

im runnning 79 processes and its very SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW¬!!!!!!!!!!!!!

blingdudel

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Mo/R

08 Mar 2007 at 20:58 - 61

Ive got another problem when i unistalled the old graphics card driver the screen resolution changed to the 600 one but when i restarted it, it has got the driver THE OLD ONE back what has happened!!!!!!! and how do i unistall it. Because it wasnt theres a few hours ago!

blingdudel

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Mo/R

08 Mar 2007 at 20:59 - 62

the screen resolution has changed that is how ive noticed that it has come back FROM THE DEAD!!!!!!

Tachyon

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08 Mar 2007 at 21:19 - 63

I'm sorry, but you're going to have to make more sense.

Mushroom

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09 Mar 2007 at 16:16 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dex

Well, if you Google the name of just about any DLL that's part of a common device driver you'll get a lot of results like that. I did google that .dll just now. Most of the people having trouble with that DLL were reporting it about 2 years ago.

I get this problem all the time even today.

There are a few models of Dell OptiPlex, that when you do a full update from Microsoft, it will put this DLL on your system. And the most frustrating part, is that there are no NVidia devices installed in the system at all! Intel chipsets and video.

One thing I have learned, is to never allow MicroSoft to update ATI or NVidia video cards. I always turn updates for these items off. For some reason updating Intel and SiS video is no problem, but NVidia and ATI always hoses the system.

And you really can't blame MS either, since the driver and list of systems to update it comes from NVidia.