Hey guys, just want to bring my concerns up. Personally, I feel double faction = great, double champ points = not great.
I know Titles aren't really that great of indicators of skill, but it's because of events like this that will bring on an influx of gimmicks that really kill stuff (like what happened to HA).
I see it almost as akin to rewarding double rating or some such nonsense over a weekend, as if somehow, by playing one weekend, you skill somehow doubled for those brief days.
Keep the faction gain, get rid of the champ points.
GvG Bonus Weekend: Your thoughts
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notskorn
Well this sure is great for the 22 guilds that can currently get champ points in the utterly terrible new system that is the ladder. Not so much for the rest of us.
I MP I
Great for the faction and if you like farming champ points (assuming your guild has a 1200 rating). Otherwise a useless event if you're guildless, have UAX or not in a guild that gvgs. So /yawn is my response
Blame the Monks
Who cares? Very few people will get champ points, even if they play for one of the top few guilds.
Skuld
They might as well not have bothered with the points *shrug*
Double faction is sweet though.
Double faction is sweet though.
omens
Well with the messed up ladder, atm only the top 22 guild can even earn champ points, and only when they face annother top 22 guild. The faction will be nice, but the champ points are well out of reach for just about everyone, even top 22 guilds.
Legendary Shiz
Yeah double faction is bomb, but they should have saved the double champs for another weekend like a month down the line or more.
At this point it's like the rich people just get richer.
I'm sure they did this to encourage a lot of guilds to make a push for 1200 but it's really only possible for at most like 15-20 more guilds. At least less than 50 guilds MIGHT be able to take advantage of the weekend, seems insanely pointless.
At this point it's like the rich people just get richer.
I'm sure they did this to encourage a lot of guilds to make a push for 1200 but it's really only possible for at most like 15-20 more guilds. At least less than 50 guilds MIGHT be able to take advantage of the weekend, seems insanely pointless.
B Ephekt
I've been UAX for months, so double faction is useless.
Double champ points are useless given the current state of the ladder.
Garbage weekend event imo.
How about giving us a "double attention to actually making the game better" weekend?
Double champ points are useless given the current state of the ladder.
Garbage weekend event imo.
How about giving us a "double attention to actually making the game better" weekend?
savage vapor 33
Stupid weekend concerning champ points. Only the top 22 guilds can participate? Lame.... I do like the double faction per win, lots of Necro/Discord spike teams this weekend maybe? 
/yawn
/yawn
Demo Something
Yay, double faction (uax, no comment ...), and double champ points (wooh, now we get 2 champ points if we win vs a top 20 guild, if we even face one that is!)
ARandoman
Anet should just bring back the old ladder system until we get At's.
fenix
This weekend is pointless. Most PvPers (at least the good ranked ones) are UAX, and hardly anyone can get champ points...why even make this weekend in the first place?
Hell Raiser
I am in a very small PvE based guild (like 5 active players, but we will have been together for 2 years in a few months.), we do not GvG and would never have a chance at getting into one of those top 22 guilds, and I am UAX so the faction doesn't matter. They should do something else along with it, like when they did the HA weekend they also did free/double drop for The Deep/Warren.
Divinus Stella
The double champ points is a bit early i think, we could possibly get in range before the weekend, but then you gotta be matched up with another 1200+, another month and the weekend might be more useful.
DarkCloudInc
Forgive me for lacking the understanding, but what does UAX stand for?
B Ephekt
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Forgive me for lacking the understanding, but what does UAX stand for?
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Feminist Terrorist
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How about giving us a "double attention to actually making the game better" weekend?
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From this PVE'ers position, this next weekend is a /yawn.
Divinus Stella
From a PvP'ers position the double green weekends are a yawn, cant always get what you want :P
Wilhelm
Double Champ points affects <2% of the GW population.
I myself, will guest randomly, in order to unlock the wonderful stuff I had no intention of unlocking, like Skull Crack, Otugh's Cry, and the amazing +4 Armor -20 life Incription.
I myself, will guest randomly, in order to unlock the wonderful stuff I had no intention of unlocking, like Skull Crack, Otugh's Cry, and the amazing +4 Armor -20 life Incription.
coleslawdressin
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This weekend is pointless. Most PvPers (at least the good ranked ones) are UAX, and hardly anyone can get champ points...why even make this weekend in the first place?
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Another stupid move ANET...Just make it some lame PVE weekend and save the double champ points for when more guilds can get them. I have completely no use for faction ever...capped out at 60K since like a month after NR release.
Make tombs 8v8 already and give us double fame for that. Every poll comes up in favor of 8v8 but you are still dragging your heels.
yesitsrob
Double faction, would have probably helped me 3 months ago.
And unless we get 90 rating in 2 days then the champ points won't happen. lower to 1100 maybe ^^.
pretty retarded, double fame would be better.
And unless we get 90 rating in 2 days then the champ points won't happen. lower to 1100 maybe ^^.
pretty retarded, double fame would be better.
Tea Girl
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Well this sure is great for the 22 guilds that can currently get champ points in the utterly terrible new system that is the ladder. Not so much for the rest of us.
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Now not only these guilds can't farm champ pts again... the other 80% of the active gvg guilds can't get champ points either.
This weekend event is pretty useless :T
Div
Double champ points was already a bad idea last time, with an influx of crappy teams with gimmick builds that farm the ladder and pile up a lot of champ points (even more than many of the top GvGers who have played in tournaments). Now with the ladder like this, making it a double champ points weekend is even worse. It encourages those top 25ish teams to keep playing this weekend to farm up lots of champion points that normal people take forever to get and create a bigger gap (title-wise) between the people who have farmed the ladder the past 2 months to get 1200+ and the people who are actually good but don't farm the ladder as much.
tomcruisejr
Double champ points event is good for the game coz during this time, the overpowered builds are being played. It much easier for skill balancer(s) to identify things to nerf.
Gustin
never really thought of it that way tomcruise, but then again it still boosts the few that farm the ladder for a better title to boast their enflated ego at those of us who don't have the opportunity get that high into the ladder.
(not that i really care personally, pvp titles to me just means how much patience you have, and for most, with gimmick builds; not directly how good you are at the game)
(not that i really care personally, pvp titles to me just means how much patience you have, and for most, with gimmick builds; not directly how good you are at the game)
Shmanka
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- Rotating(obviously) weekend events: should not take more then a few programs and a few discussions.
- Glitch Fixing: should take a few guys patch up some work here and there, unless they are eating donuts with the popo's.
- Design/Programming/Script/Art team: obvious, creative a good bulk of players.
- Balance Team: I don't know how many people are here, but they might as well run Globe Trotter jerseys.
In one weekend if you focused on these... 50% of the people would stop complaining.
Maiyn
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Anet should just bring back the old ladder system until we get At's.
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Not to mention the being UAX aspect as well. So it's a really cool IDEA to have a gvg weekend, but maybe not the greatest time for it.The double faction will be great for some guilds i think. We're definitely going to grind to get some of our members fully unlocked and such. Only point to it really.
PS- please don't lower the champ point range again >D
Thom Bangalter
I'm UAX.
Only 22 guilds are above 1200 rating.
Time to work on that defender title...
Only 22 guilds are above 1200 rating.
Time to work on that defender title...
Avarre
Double Champ points? Where does the line for guesting for cow this weekend start?!
Seriously though... there could have been better uses of the weekend. If they really wanted to get more people playing to indentify things, or just encourage play, at this point a double scoring system on guild battles (+/- 10 instead of 5) would have been more appropriate.
Seriously though... there could have been better uses of the weekend. If they really wanted to get more people playing to indentify things, or just encourage play, at this point a double scoring system on guild battles (+/- 10 instead of 5) would have been more appropriate.
Ouchie
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I am in a very small PvE based guild (like 5 active players, but we will have been together for 2 years in a few months.), we do not GvG and would never have a chance at getting into one of those top 22 guilds, and I am UAX so the faction doesn't matter. They should do something else along with it, like when they did the HA weekend they also did free/double drop for The Deep/Warren.
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Too many players are left out of this event
Alleji
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0*2 = 0
primitiveworker
Anything that encourages guilds to GvG for the first time, or casual GvGers to GvG more is a good thing imo. Anything that helps Izzy rebalance skillsets (*cough* Rit Spike *cough*) is a good thing imo. A weekend event that does both is pretty awesome tbh.
rangergirl100
more pvp bonuses ..yawn , they shouldve extended the dragon arena games thatde be more fun
Seltack
I'm all for PvP weekends as well as PvE weekends, I won't participate in PvE weekends, they can chose not to play in PvP weekends, its great.
But this weekend is just pointless, the faction is a plus but GvG already gives ridiculous faction. I'm not UAX but I might as well be, there are so few skills worth having (especially if you specialise in a certain role in GvG) that unlocking them is more of an epeen thing than anything else.
Double champ points? /CLAP which genius came up with that one. Then again coming from the same people who buffed rits to the imbalanced spike machines they are now because the class concept is retarded and no one wants to play them nothing surprises me.
Want a fun GvG weekend?
I have an idea.
ATs.
Now.
Or just make the ladder have a normal amount of points gain.
But this weekend is just pointless, the faction is a plus but GvG already gives ridiculous faction. I'm not UAX but I might as well be, there are so few skills worth having (especially if you specialise in a certain role in GvG) that unlocking them is more of an epeen thing than anything else.
Double champ points? /CLAP which genius came up with that one. Then again coming from the same people who buffed rits to the imbalanced spike machines they are now because the class concept is retarded and no one wants to play them nothing surprises me.
Want a fun GvG weekend?
I have an idea.
ATs.
Now.
Or just make the ladder have a normal amount of points gain.
Chewbacca Defense
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I'm not UAX but I might as well be, there are so few skills worth having (especially if you specialise in a certain role in GvG) that unlocking them is more of an epeen thing than anything else.
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Although, I'll agree that some skills will probably never need unlocking..
*cough*Otugh's Cry*cough*
The Last Anthem
this weekend=pointless for 95% of the players..double balth is nice but mostly for beginning pvpers..guess I will have a free weekend this weekend 
Yawgmoth
Double faction = rotfl, useless. As long as there's Nothing to spend them on, balthazar faction - a potentially great PvP reward is absolutely useless. By the time today every serious GvG player is UAXed - I did that by the end of November'06 and even bought that Razah for 50k faction because it was the last thing to unlock anyway. Everyone i play with has uax'd long ago aswell.
Double Champion points - last time they did I was able to farm about 100 points during one weekend. But then about 150 or even 200 guilds had 1200+ rating. This time its only ~30 guilds. So nobody will get huge amounts of them but it's just a nice reward for the top few guilds.
But IMHO the whole Champion title needs a revision in the coming future. That's because the ladder will never be reset anymore and ratings are only kept for historical reason. In April the daily automated tournaments having K-Value of 30 (probably) will make much much more guilds in the range of 1200 rating. And it will be only more and more so in a few months even top 400 guilds may have over 1200. Then having those simple random rated GvG matches still reward Champ points will only make them farmable and further destroying the meaning of this title. The solution is simple, but i'm not sure if the devs are aware of it - make the Champ points awarded only after victories in those daily tournaments!
Double Champion points - last time they did I was able to farm about 100 points during one weekend. But then about 150 or even 200 guilds had 1200+ rating. This time its only ~30 guilds. So nobody will get huge amounts of them but it's just a nice reward for the top few guilds.
But IMHO the whole Champion title needs a revision in the coming future. That's because the ladder will never be reset anymore and ratings are only kept for historical reason. In April the daily automated tournaments having K-Value of 30 (probably) will make much much more guilds in the range of 1200 rating. And it will be only more and more so in a few months even top 400 guilds may have over 1200. Then having those simple random rated GvG matches still reward Champ points will only make them farmable and further destroying the meaning of this title. The solution is simple, but i'm not sure if the devs are aware of it - make the Champ points awarded only after victories in those daily tournaments!
linh
Bad event, bad time to introduce it. At this moment, UAX is popular within gvg players, and only about 20 guilds have 1200+ rating. While gvg people request ANet an emergency balance update badly then they make this event which encourage more brainless farming rating with imba and ghey builds like rit spike, discord, boa sins.
It would make more sense if they make it double faction for every type of pvp. Even a double XP from capping an elite weekend ( ZOMG !!) is better than this weekend.
It would make more sense if they make it double faction for every type of pvp. Even a double XP from capping an elite weekend ( ZOMG !!) is better than this weekend.
beanerman_99
So what would make for a good PvP weekend?
/not a pvper (much)
//doesn't GvG either
/not a pvper (much)
//doesn't GvG either
Skuld
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Not that this suggestion would be any better, but winning team gets to open a chest (kind of like HoH, but not as cool) to get rewards.
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