para shield +10 vs fire matches black dyed primeval armor and is good for use in the hall of searing flames. i got one of them
i got a prayer of the forgotten also
i got a divine favor req staff which i use for healers boon monking. it looks good with ancient monk armor. cool skin imo
a 20% +20% hct air staff with 20% enchants would have been nice for an air attunement build
i guess more items there with more varied stats would have been cool but we get what we get
Nightfall end game items
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Parson Brown
I got the fire wand from Factions and the hornbow from Nightfall. All of my other Amulets/Books got sold.
I just wish a lot of the caster items had different skins. I'd definitely sign off on the "build-a-green" endgame idea. There'd still be nothing that couldn't be built in the normal game, but I'd love to select from a menu of inherent mods/inscriptions and attachable mods! I'd still keep set endgame skins, though. Maybe in Ch. 4?
I just wish a lot of the caster items had different skins. I'd definitely sign off on the "build-a-green" endgame idea. There'd still be nothing that couldn't be built in the normal game, but I'd love to select from a menu of inherent mods/inscriptions and attachable mods! I'd still keep set endgame skins, though. Maybe in Ch. 4?
garethporlest18
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Anyways, I will admit they are a lot better than Faction's greens. I would rather have the staves 20/20/20 though. Whether that has an effect or not, it makes me feel better.
GourangaPizza
Faction end-game greens are better than Nightfall's imho. The zealous flatbow is handy for my ranger, the eternal shield was pretty neat for my warrior and the wayward wand was just nice for my mesmer. But looking at NF, the only thing I got was the Dom staff for my mesmer. The rest I sold.
Skyy High
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(Honestly, why must EVERY end game warrior green be sundering...)
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wsmcasey
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This game isn't about having the best uber equipement. Greens are there to be useful. No weapon is meant to be "better."
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DeanBB
Sorry I didn't bother reading the whole thread, but this is a freebie and being complained about? Even if you sold it for 20k that is free cash for you, what exactly is there to complain about?
icedragon981
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We've only had two chapters with endgame greens, and Factions' were vampiric...
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I mean that most of the warrior greens available that are "perfect" get 15^50, 20/20 and +30 dumped on them by A-net because that's what the community full of wammos thinks are "uber stats." I'm simply stating that there is not enough diversity in warrior greens with stats that don't suck yet are not 15^50, 20/20 and +30. The Kaolin Blade in Factions was a great example, a nice zealous, +armor sword that didn't have crappy mods otherwise and a nice skin, I'd like more greens like that. Also, I get tired of seeing greens who's stats are exactly the same as 5 other greens, yet they are just stuck on a different skin. IE: Ungues/Chackrams/Talons of the Forgotten; Kanaxai's Edge/Axe/Mallet, Sword of the Forgotten.
Hope that was clear.
Shadowfox1125
Got the +5 energy spear - Ended up selling it for 35k.
Then got one of the warrior shields.
Then got one of the warrior shields.
Bastard Son
I nabbed the Forgotten Axe and bought the Primeval Warrior Armor when I finished Nightfall and love them both. No complaints here in the least.
wsmcasey
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Sorry I didn't bother reading the whole thread, but this is a freebie and being complained about? Even if you sold it for 20k that is free cash for you, what exactly is there to complain about?
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Yes, you can consider it a freebie (or item i paid for when purchasing the game), however you want to look at it. Thats not the point. Theres a difference between just "complaining" and opening up a discussion regarding the usefullness of the end game items. Its more of a disappointment than it is a complaint. The end game items are useful to some, but not all. More stat options and skin choices would have been nice. Future chapters could benefit from more innovative ideas regarding the green items. Read Icedragons post above this one, he gets what Im talking about.
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I nabbed the Forgotten Axe and bought the Primeval Warrior Armor when I finished Nightfall and love them both. No complaints here in the least.
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edit: Exalted Aegis green shield from Factions is still my favorite shield skin.
Ferret
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Exalted Aegis green shield from Factions is still my favorite shield skin.
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I now have a lovely NF gold shield of the Lion with the same stats.
There will always be a difference of opinion on skins, because what one person thinks is the best ever, another will hate with a vengence. Just the way it goes.
As for the stats of the end-game greens, i generally far prefered the NF selection (except the shields oddly, prefered the skins, but hated the stats).
zwei2stein
My personal WTFs:
No Energy Storage staff endgame green.
Warrior weapons got exact same starts we have seen repeated X times already (Sudering, 15^50, Health).
Why cant we get something like ... "power damage set" (3/-1 Vampiric, 15/-5e, +1 mastery 20%)
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(see green lists on guildwiki ... full of +30hp on nearly all weapons and shields)
No Energy Storage staff endgame green.
Warrior weapons got exact same starts we have seen repeated X times already (Sudering, 15^50, Health).
Why cant we get something like ... "power damage set" (3/-1 Vampiric, 15/-5e, +1 mastery 20%)
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(see green lists on guildwiki ... full of +30hp on nearly all weapons and shields)
Kid Divinity
Forgotten Staff - Awesome.. have many
Wayward Wand - Awesome.. have many
Req 15 Shiro's Daggers and Sword - odd req.. but cool skins
Straw Effigy - um... huh? Cool wand + ....a doll?
Nightfall wands... meh
Dervish and Paragon weapson... nice.. though the shield stats are a bit odd.
Things that match Tyrian skins (Ivory bow, etc.) = hurry up! Throw something in and release the game!
Wayward Wand - Awesome.. have many
Req 15 Shiro's Daggers and Sword - odd req.. but cool skins
Straw Effigy - um... huh? Cool wand + ....a doll?
Nightfall wands... meh
Dervish and Paragon weapson... nice.. though the shield stats are a bit odd.
Things that match Tyrian skins (Ivory bow, etc.) = hurry up! Throw something in and release the game!
Sir Skullcrasher
I'm glad that we got some kind of green weapons at each end-game chapters starting from Factions.
Horseman Of War
paragon - fire shield, although i always run command...
dervish - got channeling gbs for rit, still use Pre-Searing cry swrd...
mesmer - got divine favor SoF for my monk, useful to get some bonus energy in the middle of a fight
ranger - sundering forgotten bow (new ranger, didnt have a sundering yet, finished game with my silencing 15^stormbow but no access to any Dazed skills... :P)
rit - +5 lightning spear, for use on my Spirit's Strength rt/p build, fun times.
warrior - the furious endgame spear, for my para
if you feel gipped by the endgame items, then it just means your character has been either lucky with drops, or youve been playing long enough that you have good stuff like this already. For people who are just coming into the game, this is an excellent reward to possibly 'make their pve character pvp-ready', or even to start a new character off like a king.
What I felt could have been better, was the assassin weapons. They should have made a +5energy dagger set similar to the Factions green 'Arius' Sai' (name could be spelled wrong). They should have made some new fancy skins as well.
Im going to get all of the paragon items (edit, Spears) eventually, but I dont need anything else really.
dervish - got channeling gbs for rit, still use Pre-Searing cry swrd...
mesmer - got divine favor SoF for my monk, useful to get some bonus energy in the middle of a fight
ranger - sundering forgotten bow (new ranger, didnt have a sundering yet, finished game with my silencing 15^stormbow but no access to any Dazed skills... :P)
rit - +5 lightning spear, for use on my Spirit's Strength rt/p build, fun times.
warrior - the furious endgame spear, for my para
if you feel gipped by the endgame items, then it just means your character has been either lucky with drops, or youve been playing long enough that you have good stuff like this already. For people who are just coming into the game, this is an excellent reward to possibly 'make their pve character pvp-ready', or even to start a new character off like a king.
What I felt could have been better, was the assassin weapons. They should have made a +5energy dagger set similar to the Factions green 'Arius' Sai' (name could be spelled wrong). They should have made some new fancy skins as well.
Im going to get all of the paragon items (edit, Spears) eventually, but I dont need anything else really.
Ferret
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No Energy Storage staff endgame green.
Warrior weapons got exact same starts we have seen repeated X times already (Sudering, 15^50, Health). Why cant we get something like ... "power damage set" (3/-1 Vampiric, 15/-5e, +1 mastery 20%) (see green lists on guildwiki ... full of +30hp on nearly all weapons and shields) |
I like 15>50 weapons, cant say i have any complaints about this. I'd rather see 15>50 than anything else you cant mod and dont like vamp either. Sundering, furious or zealous is fine with me.
What's wrong with +30hp greens, best of the mods, we shouldnt complain about that. Shame the new green shields were not perfect 'luck of the draw' shields too.
Stupid Shizno
i honestly never really use greens, collectors are cheaper and i can mod them the way i want.
Kakumei
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I about puked after looking at picks of the end game armor for eles (big metal sticks poking out everywhere).
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Stixxx
When i finished NF with my monk,i got eyes of the forgotten, and since i dont have a dervish i sold it for 25k.
Then i finished NF with my warrior and got Axe of the forgotten, which i still use.
Then i finished NF with my warrior and got Axe of the forgotten, which i still use.
Utaku
I guess all these items are very good for people that are new to the game.
For veterants I hope they will create for Ch4 a craft-your-end-game-weapon system, similar to the pvp weapon creation system, but with no mod unlock restriction.
For veterants I hope they will create for Ch4 a craft-your-end-game-weapon system, similar to the pvp weapon creation system, but with no mod unlock restriction.
Ferret
Would be an interesting idea and as fair to new players as veterans. It may have some interesting effects on item prices though.
ideologue
I got the recureve bow, but I had a hard time bebating whether to get the bow or Prayer of the Forgotten