GW seems to be flooded by: "I don't care" ppl, more GM's needed?

Relambrien

Relambrien

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Delaware, USA

Error Seven Operators [Call]

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There have been a few instances where there were a decent number of people in a district and no one was spamming. NEVER did anyone say anything. There was NO chatting going on. If people weren't selling, buying, or LFG, then no one said anything.

And I could care less about spammers; I keep local and trade off, and only play with people I know. The last time I pugged was...well, before Nightfall.

It's a game, let people play the way they want. Yes, spam annoys a lot of people. But in my experience, a lack of spam doesn't facilitate any chat. It's either spam or silence.

Pwny Ride

Pwny Ride

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Aussieland

Prime Players Of [OSHA] ~ [dth] alliance. <3

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman88
Hey,

Deal with it or Leave. I don't like how People act on BF2 or on AA, but I deal with it.. I don't like it how people act on Total War Mutiplayer, but I just play it once a week and deal with it..

Just Deal with it or Leave. Put up or shutup. harsh yes, but true..
QFT

Seriously if you dont like it, there are fixes, ie turning off certain chats. People whining about it isnt helping.

Also Ensign has an extremely good point. Their pay doesnt come out of nowhere, they need the money from somewhere, and thats one of the many reasons that games are pay to play.

Faith Angelis

Faith Angelis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscana
Maybe we should have some social gamers involved to be a Game Master and moderate GW a little, actually I would really like to help Anet at this point if it was possible.
"Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

~Juvenal

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

Well, it is annoying but yes you can turn the chat off. There are many ideas that people can think of to help against spam but none of them will really work I suppose...people will be people.

My advice...when it comes to big towns try district 2 or 3....stay away from district 1 as that is the place for spam trading.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Well, I'm one of the people who think a part-time GM would make a huge difference.
Lets say in 1/2 hour per day he does visits to the towns like LA, Kamadan, Kaineng, Ascalon ID1,.. There you really don't need more then a minute to find someone who should be banned for a while or even permanent (the whole "1000k=65€, visit www.someaddress.com..." spam). And banning should be displayed in channel with something like "Player <Name> was banned for <X> days for <Reason>". If people saw ANet is actually doing something about it and they can't just do anything they wish they just might think a bit the next time they do it.

Hysteria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Back, way back, when prophecies was first released almost everyone would jump on others cases if they tried to sell in local or spew repetetive spam. It was a very nice atmosphere. The excitement level for the game was high and most people were in good moods playing the game, it was all great. Boy times have changed. Since there are ways to control the spam on the screen and there really isn't a proper trade solution in GW I really don't ever expect much to change from the way it is now, although I hope I'm wrong. There are Anet employees in cognito that do "occasionally' moderate the game if they happen to be around but the offense seem's to have to be fairly severe. I don't know if these were other, not as well known employees or perhaps the community relations folks but they did seem to have the ability to ban people. The instance I say was when someone who was gift greifing this past Xmas (where they would hold the present while the grenches were hung up at the tower so no more would fall) was banned by someone in game for doing so. The unkown employee gave fair warning, the other guy just laughed and a few minutes later...Poof...he was gone and we were told it was taken care of. It would be great if this type of presence was official and further reaching but how much can you really ask for with a no monthly fee MMORG.

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

Well, GW will have to decide what they can or cannot do....there may not be a subscription fee every month but they still want people to come and play the game. They will want to sell chapter 4 and so the need a good player base and new interest. If a specific problem gets out of control it may end up reflecting in sales.

I'm not saying this issue has gotten to that point yet but I'm sure the guys at GW are aware of such things

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Leavers are obivously a bad thing, but you should understand that there's often a good reason. ANet can't ban people (temporarily or not) for leaving because people usually don't want to leave but have to all of the sudden. It's not like people are joining random parties just to leave them again, noone gets kicks out of that (well, probably some do, but I doubt you'll see them often).

And spamming will always be there, you don't go to Kaineng to chat, you go there to either read spam or spam yourself. People spamming that they want to have sex or anything similair will always be there as well, but that's not too hard to ignore. I agree that there should be GM's though, that can ban people that spam messages in Local Chat that are just out of the line or related to selling or buying. Still though, you're making a big deal about this, if you want to chat, join a guild.

PS. Try Grotto, it's supossed to be great for chatting

icedragon981

icedragon981

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

At my computer

Teh Nine [lll]

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I do wish there would be less spam and more genuine, social conversations but I really don't see any way that this can be helped. This is why I have local chat turned off most of the time and don't AB much anymore...

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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I generally keep all chat other than Team, Guild and Alliance turned off at all times. If I enter a quiet area (ie, not Kamadan, LA, Kaineng, Sunspear Sanctuary, Droknar's Forge etc..) I may turn on Local Chat to see what sort of things are going on and perhaps if anyone needs a hand.

As for Leavers, I don't understand why they leave. I mean, Monks are spiteful and evidently gain some form of pleasure from leaving half way through a mission...hence why I always take hench monks over human ones now. But other people...why? What to they have to gain from leaving and having to do the mission again? I don't get it..

wynoski

wynoski

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

In a hot spot

United Vanguard [UV]

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I was in yolan haven last night and tried to get some spammers to stop...one guy was in there for 2 hours trying to buy gold daggers...he kep upping his offer, was rude at requests to stop spamming.

I asked another guy to stop spamming and he left.

Was in sunspear sanctuary last night...at is was quiet...no spammers, so banter. I rarely get involved cuz I have 2-3 hours before I get sleepy and want to ove my monk along...other than that, I think you see more spam on the weekends.

Leavers...I had that problem in TOA last night...we were going to do Rotsacle, but America got favor and everyone jumped ship...it was sad really...I wish actual groups went into the UW...My Necro cannot do it well on her own and everyone in TOA was looking to solo...

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

There will always be a problem with WTB/WTS spam until the day Anet does either one of two things.


1) Auction house.

2) Allow people to set up individual trade shops. Setup a heading for your shop, price your items and put your items you want to sell in a trade window, click "submit" and your shop is set up with the shop name over your head. You can stay or go afk if you want. Games like Flyff & Hero Online do this and they do NOT have issues with WTB/WTS spam (this trade method works extremely well).

After almost 2 years of playing Guildwars I've come to the conclusion that Anet really doesnt care about this issue all that much. If they did care, they would have done something about it 2 years ago, lmao.

Kuldebar Valiturus

Kuldebar Valiturus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Garden City, Idaho

The Order of Relumination (TOoR)

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Here are my thoughts on what the OP has raised.

People have a "I don't care" attitude because they don't have to care.

When cooperation is required to accomplish things, you will find that people have a willingness to work together because it is in their own self interests to do so.

The general trend in Guild Wars (in my view, an unfortunate trend) has been the decline in the need and value of cooperation with other people.

In the interest of full disclosure, I am a player that plays solely with Henchies and Heroes; I have only grouped with other players less than 8 times during the last 20 months. In other games, I have played, I have grouped much more frequently.

Some Guild Wars players tend to look down their noses at other multiplayer games, but unbiased observation will reveal that cooperative play is much more rewarding in the long term. There's even a study out there that shows that "connecting' with others is a very important part of why people play such games:
Quote:

"It's our contention that the psychological 'pull' of games is largely due to their capacity to engender feelings of autonomy, competence and relatedness."
-source
Being self sufficient (autonomy) is great, I enjoy it, but it can often work counter to cooperative play.

The level of civility within the game suffers for it, as well.

edit: typos

kolakoski

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

New York City

Knights of Shadowpeak

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwinRaven
You create your own kharma....If you want to live in a positive world...be positive. I play the game and see a LOT of juvinile crap. It does not, however, effect me anymore...I tend to read through it to see if someone needs help. In pre-searing I have a character that does not much more than kill charr and give the drops to lvl 1s appearing in Ascalon for the first time. I run ppl from place to place for free...I give out information...and without being rude, or appearing offended, I say things in local chat like "Will the Hitler Youth rally participants kindly move to district 14, your party is waiting for you there" (usually after the racist crap starts to flow and there are only 10 available districts)....A sense of humor can go a long way. If someone bugs you personally, put them on ignore....or better yet....on your friends list...When they are online you can whisper to them things like: You get a hug today? Are you in a positive space today? How's the anger management coming along? Sure, they will put you on ignore....but they might get creeped out enough by your lack of negativity that they will think twice about spewing hate...Sounds hokey and kinda weird? Yes! It is...that's why it works....especially when they start crying "harrassment" and you say..."please print and send the chat log to ANet...I've been nothing but kind." You can't really kill anyone with kindness, but you can bug the hell outta them with it...Seriously, though, helping those who need it is more than a distraction from the negativity...it sets a mood, an expectation and a model for behavior. Do a good turn and it may come back to you...Let's face it: anonymity breeds stupidity...all you can do is try and combat it with what you find good in the game...
Well met!

I could not agree with you more! A little communication goes a long way in separating the wheat from the chaff, and those who expect to see only chaff will see only chaff. I have always been able to find good people to do missions with, even when my guild mates are unavailable. I just take the time to talk. It is soon apparent, by his/her words (or lack of them), what the character of a potential team mate is. If you expect and give respect, that is what you will receive (99.99% of the time, lol).

Wo Tan Ki, Ranger, Knights of shadowpeak (KoS)

Kuldebar Valiturus

Kuldebar Valiturus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Garden City, Idaho

The Order of Relumination (TOoR)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kolakoski
Well met!

I could not agree with you more! A little communication goes a long way in separating the wheat from the chaff, and those who expect to see only chaff will see only chaff. I have always been able to find good people to do missions with, even when my guild mates are unavailable. I just take the time to talk. It is soon apparent, by his/her words (or lack of them), what the character of a potential team mate is. If you expect and give respect, that is what you will receive (99.99% of the time, lol).

Wo Tan Ki, Ranger, Knights of shadowpeak (KoS)
I can accept a Tao Te Ching approach to the human experience, it's really in line with what I posted above. When the need for civility has been displaced by other things, people will not be civil to each other.

Jelloblimp

Jelloblimp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

[KCHS]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
You are aware that trading one games items for guild wars items is not against the eula? It was dicussed yesterday and the wording suggests that it is not. (...)
I havent seen a GW-employee say its ok so I doubt that.

Kuldebar Valiturus

Kuldebar Valiturus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Garden City, Idaho

The Order of Relumination (TOoR)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jelloblimp
I havent seen a GW-employee say its ok so I doubt that.
Well, first off, it would be a virtually unenforceable prohibition. I mean think about it. Hell, people could trade in-game items for sex, or to put it more politely, "give" things to their girl friends/boyfriends.

The distinction lies in running a "business" venture reliant on in-game properties for monetary gain.

ANet is the only entity that is legally entitled to make money off of Guild Wars properties.

Gustin

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

R/

i remember the one time in LA i tried to get people to stop spamming and use the trade window. i got told to f.... off and turn my chat off. i miss the days in prophecies where people had common curtosy

but there was one time in Kodah Bazaar where it was quiet and quite a few of us were having an actual decent conversation. this guy came in and started spamming and we all jumped on him and and he got pissed off about it. grant it he still spammed just to spite us which is why i'm sure he got added to a lot of people's ignore list. and as much as i hate to say it, a majority of these people are kids. i'd almost be willing to the idea of anet stepping up some of the services offered and content of the game with a monthly fee just to weed some of these people out.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

with the game going on its 2nd year there is a growing gap between the noobs and the elites.. when the elites pve they expect others to be good which is sad...

just this whole idea of
skill = GW
WoW = time invested
PvP = Skill
Time Invested = PvE
skill > time invested
PvP > PvE

zerulus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
I think guilds and alliances have totally monopolized the social aspect of the game. Speaking for myself, I only ever have the Team and Guild chat modes enabled. Team for when talk involves the actual play our party is engaged in, and; Guild for general banter. (I do, occasionally, check the trade channel.) I'm afraid I might not be alone in this.
What did people expect when they bought a game called Guild Wars?

Allanon754

Allanon754

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Rochester, NY

Kings Beyond the Wall [KING]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by wsmcasey
There will always be a problem with WTB/WTS spam until the day Anet does either one of two things.


1) Auction house.

2) Allow people to set up individual trade shops. Setup a heading for your shop, price your items and put your items you want to sell in a trade window, click "submit" and your shop is set up with the shop name over your head. You can stay or go afk if you want. Games like Flyff & Hero Online do this and they do NOT have issues with WTB/WTS spam (this trade method works extremely well).

After almost 2 years of playing Guildwars I've come to the conclusion that Anet really doesnt care about this issue all that much. If they did care, they would have done something about it 2 years ago, lmao.
EverQuest also did that with the Bazaar where you would put up your items stand in a, bazaar (D'oh!), and sit while people would use a search to find what items were up for sale, including yours and what price you were offering for it. I personally prefer Horizons system which let you drop off items and when they were sold you would get the money no matter where you were. I also have tried to get people stop spamming and will get many messages like, yah I hate them to but what can ya do?

It would be really cool if on Gw guru we could organize a clean up day, like a clean Earth day where a bunch of us tried to flood LA with good behavior . Oh, and a sidenote... can't GMs be volunteers? A friend of mine was a GM in EverQuest and I don't remember him being paid for his time.

Tempy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Oregon

DOH

For those that keep saying just let them spam and play the way they want.


5. When communicating in Guild Wars using Global Chat (including, without limitation, server wide chat and use of the whisper command), you may not spam, flood, or make duplicate posts. For more information, please see the User Agreement section 4 (j).

Seems to me a blatant break of the RoC.

EDIT: I would so volunteer to be a GM!

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempy
For those that keep saying just let them spam and play the way they want.


5. When communicating in Guild Wars using Global Chat (including, without limitation, server wide chat and use of the whisper command), you may not spam, flood, or make duplicate posts. For more information, please see the User Agreement section 4 (j).

Seems to me a blatant break of the RoC.

EDIT: I would so volunteer to be a GM!
Wow, there it is in plain sight.

The only problem with reporting them is what will NC Soft do once they get that report? IT defeats the purpose of a User Agreement if they won't enforce it.

Code=007

Code=007

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Tomorrow Never [dies]

A/

I was thinking volunteer gm's powers should only be mutes, not bans and pretty short like 2 hours or maybe 4.

Vamis Threen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/Mo

Volunteer GMs? Delusions of grandeur, mate. Tin-pot tyrants who believe they have a monopoly on what GW is "really" about? Nein danke.

Tempy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Oregon

DOH

Well we surely know what it's NOT about! There is NO REASON nearly everyone that plays this game should have to have their local channel turned off, because of a few people that "Don't Effin Care!"

*sighs* I miss Beta Times, and even the first few months after release.

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

I think the whole player GM idea could work and it wouldn't cost anet anything more then maybe some cool special armor, weapons or mini's. As far as the other question that was asked, "Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes" (who will guard the guardians)....well, they'll just have to be careful of who they pick and keep an eye on who and why they ban.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZenRgy
Play with people only you know, do you think those leavers who don't care enough to stay for the whole round care enough to not join the party to spoil your experience?

That's just the way things go, sad but true.
You make it sound so easy. There's not always people you know on or the're
busy or any number of reasons why you can't count on friends all the time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TwinRaven
You create your own kharma....If you want to live in a positive world...be positive. I play the game and see a LOT of juvinile crap. It does not, however, effect me anymore...I tend to read through it to see if someone needs help. In pre-searing I have a character that does not much more than kill charr and give the drops to lvl 1s appearing in Ascalon for the first time. I run ppl from place to place for free...I give out information...and without being rude, or appearing offended, I say things in local chat like "Will the Hitler Youth rally participants kindly move to district 14, your party is waiting for you there" (usually after the racist crap starts to flow and there are only 10 available districts)....A sense of humor can go a long way. If someone bugs you personally, put them on ignore....or better yet....on your friends list...When they are online you can whisper to them things like: You get a hug today? Are you in a positive space today? How's the anger management coming along? Sure, they will put you on ignore....but they might get creeped out enough by your lack of negativity that they will think twice about spewing hate...Sounds hokey and kinda weird? Yes! It is...that's why it works....especially when they start crying "harrassment" and you say..."please print and send the chat log to ANet...I've been nothing but kind." You can't really kill anyone with kindness, but you can bug the hell outta them with it...Seriously, though, helping those who need it is more than a distraction from the negativity...it sets a mood, an expectation and a model for behavior. Do a good turn and it may come back to you...Let's face it: anonymity breeds stupidity...all you can do is try and combat it with what you find good in the game...
I was getting geared up to argue the kharma and positive attitude thing (I normally have an excellent positive attitude) and then I read the rest of your post. Asking them if they need a hug.....omg, that's brilliant! I usually ask, who pissed in your cheerio's, but I like your idea's way better.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscana
Same for missions, Alliance battles. I formed a team and each time I made sure that I wasn't taking a leaver with me.
How do you make sure there are no leavers? I've been in skill cap groups who all swore they would stick around after they got theirs and guess what......they didn't.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
I was going to read all that until i noticed i'm one of those "I Don't Care" people.
And you're proud of this?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Code=007
resposability(sp?)
Responsibility. I always google a word if I'm not sure how to spell it. If it's wrong, it says....."did you mean this (fill in the word)?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
I think guilds and alliances have totally monopolized the social aspect of the game.
Well, the game is called Guild Wars. I'd like to know why you think that tho.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrusher
It's a game, peoples have the right to acted like the way they are!
No they don't. Read KiyaKoreena's quote below.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KiyaKoreena
Then I have the "right" not to be exposed to the filth that some people spew. Unfortunatly "rights" are a sorely misunderstood, greatly abused, and sometimes completely fabricated notion.

It's a social setting. They should have been taught what behavior is inappropriate. Before reaching adolesence I had been taught it is inappropriate to curse, describe sexual acts, and generally be a twit in public. If people want to act like that with their friends, fine, but don't do it in a public area and subject others to such idiocy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Risky Ranger
Maybe they should have a "Guild Wars for Ignorant People" version so they can all get together.
Nah, it probably wouldn't work because most of them don't think they are doing anything wrong. Maybe mark a few districts as selling/spamming, asshat places, that way the rest of us can avoid it. Oh, wait a minute, there already is, Dist 1 in any post, gw.

SirShadowrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

at the beach

Gamerzunlimited (GU)

R/

Been saying this for over a year, until an auction house is implemented
we are going to have to put up with spam in the local channel, even then it
might not totally fix it.
I purpose anyone caught spamming even once in local chat will be banned
for one week on first offense, three weeks on second offense and you
loose your account on the third offense, have this as the message of the day,
and I bet you will completely cleanup the local channel.
Whomever posted about only having guild and AC on is 100% correct,
this is the way most ppl run now, why they do not have some GM's watching
the main towns and districts is beyond me.

Just to take the sellers side for a second, I completely understand why
ppl do this, IT WORKS and you can sell stuff faster, many times I have been
in a town with the trades channel turned off and I see an item come across
local for a good price, and I bought it, so yes this is supporting it, but it
goes back to the root of the problem, there is no good way to sell stuff in
this game, and basically this is a main part of the pve world.

So anet put your little heads together and cancel the next festival with
hats and drinks and get to work on the auction house.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

More GMs means collective e-fascism.

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscana
.......(snip) I also played a lot of WoW which I like as well, and I saw that on the server I played there is a huge social community. People help, totally no chat spamming, nobody cursing except towards AI and the people that are actually pugs .. well they don't bother others with it. I would love to see GW being the same social game, but I think that won't happen unless Anet introduces a monthly fee.........(snip)
Ha-ha,

I beg to differ; people in WoW are still as immature and ungrateful as they are in GW. Even if they are better at catching people the masses are still just as bad. Futhermore people are that way in general; for all you know you could be talking to a serial killer, who plays really “nicey nice.”

Warmaster Patton

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Insanity

Vis Decus Vertus [vDv]

R/

GM's are much needed, I wish you could just stop people from talking some of the time, a little ban like 30 minutes could work as well, just to tell that what they are doing is not acceptable. If they do it again they get longer and longer bans, hopefully they will get it after a few. I do see this being abused badly though, so A-net should keep an eye on all the GMs to see who the ban and what they ban for.

profscooter

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Grauniads of Old Devotion

R/Me

I agree, something needs to be done about increasing intolerance and bad behaviour generally, it seems to be getting significantly worse just in the last few months. Bad language, chat spam, pick-up groups arguing or berating each other, "noob" calling - I really notice the difference recently, 15 months ago when I started it all seemed much calmer. Maybe it needs some GMs (I'd volunteer), auction house, or even a monthly fee - whatever it takes - let's hope Anet cotton-on to the way the community is falling apart and do something about it fast.

Diddy bow

Diddy bow

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2006

Jawsome!!!!!!!!!!!

looking for one :p

A/D

I'd love to be a GM but there is no way a-net could pick responaple ppl all the time how can they know who is and who isnt??

Only way to rally fix spam is trade inprovment but a-net would sooner give us more storage than do such a thing

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zomgitsme
Anyways, I think the GW community is the best ever and GM's would make it like...communism. Communism is bad, btw.
I've turned on local chat before; I'd prefer communism at this point. Not enforcing the rules sends the message that if you can get away with it, do it. This is pretty evident in LA district 1's local chat or the obvious bots in Yohlon Haven, Granite Citadel, Altrumm Ruins etc...

GrimWizard

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/Rt

When did enforcing rules and a respectful atmosphere equate to enforcing Communism, Fascism, and Tyrany?! Last time I checked having a police force doesn't turn a country into communists.

The simple fact is that people are not following the rules and/or being overly obnoxious and no one can stop them. At this point in time doing nothing about it is the worst part of the problem.

Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

I see nothing wrong with the community when I'm in game. I DO suggest, however, they check out Great Temple of Balthazar Dis 1, it's worse than an MSN chat room over there, so many immature kids flame it up and it's a pain to be zoned there...

Azza

Azza

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

United Farmers of Europe[FOE]

R/

Having a GM,I like the Idea personally but it would need to be monitored, well if they did, one way i could see it working is giving a responsible person an extra Charcter slot that only holds a "Policeman" Toon that can access all chapters and towns, not be able to access explorable areas and not able to access towns that other Police Toons are in.
Warnings issued to people in Bold Red that only have Whisper functions available, ie, not to be used for general chat like public flaming of idiots (as much as they deserve it) or/and perhaps a Set script only for Local and Trade chat like "A Guild Wars Monitor is currently accessing the legitamate use of all Chat Channels" this Police toon would need to be linked some how so when a persons name is entered in Whisp all details are relayed to A-net so they can make sure all protocals are being adhered to, have no ability to turn off any chat. Ohh but still have access to your Guild / Alliance chat as normal. probably need set scripts that are scrolled, not sure? ie "You are currently spamming the local chat, your details have been sent to A-Net for further Investigation" or "The Language you are currently using is not approriatefor the community of guild wars, your details etc etc" you get the point i hope. the set robotic phone script we all hate
wouldnt take long before people started behaving in some sort of socially acceptable way,
lol, i can imagine some would be doing all sorts of emotes to these toons, but that would only be funny and harmless
Well my $ 0.02 worth anyway

Tempy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Oregon

DOH

Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimWizard
When did enforcing rules and a respectful atmosphere equate to enforcing Communism, Fascism, and Tyrany?! Last time I checked having a police force doesn't turn a country into communists.

The simple fact is that people are not following the rules and/or being overly obnoxious and no one can stop them. At this point in time doing nothing about it is the worst part of the problem.

Thank you very much! Glad I am not the only one that found this a bit off.

profscooter

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Grauniads of Old Devotion

R/Me

My guess at what is happening is this: first couple of Christmases, GW was lower profile, bought mainly by/for gamers who know about how on-line RPGs are supposed to work. This last Christmas, the game has a much higher profile on the net and on shop shelves, it has been bought as a gift for some folks whose real-life personalities are perhaps not best suited to this kind of game. I can only see the situation getting worse when Chapter 4 comes out. And of course it only costs money to the gift-giver, for the recipient to misbehave in-game is free of charge. I feel certain that nowadays, your average decent person, turning up for the very first time in Ascalon City or Kaineng would be in for a bit of a shock, and question whether they really wanted to spend time in this game. At the very least there should be GMs regularly stationed in starter locations to reassure people, as it may take some time for newcomers to find their way and settle in to a decent guild. Even then, having the security of a guild and turning off local chat is just avoiding dealing with the underlying problem - which is that without stricter controls, GW - which is a fabulous game - could end up being ruined by becoming a dumping ground for all kinds of RPG low-lifes.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimWizard
When did enforcing rules and a respectful atmosphere equate to enforcing Communism, Fascism, and Tyrany?! Last time I checked having a police force doesn't turn a country into communists.
The police force doesn't coerce people to smile at each other, to say hello to each other and give cookies to each other though, last time i check.