What is Effective Damage Level?

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

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As well as increasing the critical rate, the swordsmanship attribute will add hidden damage by changing the Effective Damage Level (EffDL) if certain conditions are meet. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Swordsmanship
What is Effective Damage Level? Does the higher your swordsmanship attribute, the higher the base damage of the weapon itself [not including skills]?

Darcy

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I believe Effective Damage is explained on this page in the wiki
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Damage_calculation

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

i hav a sword thats req 8. after setting my sword attributes from 8-12, i notice i seem to do more base damage against other pvp players with the weapon. is this really happening?

Yanman.be

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TsunamiZ, if you have 12 swordsmanship, you do more damage than 8 swordsmanship.

Enko

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
TsunamiZ, if you have 12 swordsmanship, you do more damage than 8 swordsmanship.
and just to be clear, that's your attribute level, not your sword requirements.

as long as you meet the requirement for the sword, a req 8 will do the same damage as a req 13.
ex, you have 13 swordsmanship attribute,
having a req 8 sword will do the same damage as a req 13.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Originally Posted by Enko
and just to be clear, that's your attribute level, not your sword requirements.

as long as you meet the requirement for the sword, a req 8 will do the same damage as a req 13.
ex, you have 13 swordsmanship attribute,
having a req 8 sword will do the same damage as a req 13.
but it seems exceeding the req 8 attribute for my sword to 12 makes me do more base damage. is this the 'hidden damage'? in which case, i do more base damage if im sword attribue is higher?

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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Originally Posted by TsunamiZ
but it seems exceeding the req 8 attribute for my sword to 12 makes me do more base damage. is this the 'hidden damage'? in which case, i do more base damage if im sword attribue is higher?
If you don't meet the requirement for your weapon, it's treated like a starter version of that weapon. In your case, the sword would be treated like a 2-3 dmg sword if you had 7 swordmanship or lower.
If you meet the requirement, it's treated at it's actual level (which in your case I presume is 15-22)
Your swordmanship level increases the percentage of dmg you actually do. 8 is pretty low, and I recall it's about 60% at 8 swordmanship. At 12 you do 100% of the dmg, and at 16 you do 115%. I don't know if you can call that 'hidden', but it is extra dmg yes.
A req. 11 sword at 12 swordmanship will do the exact same dmg as a req.7 sword at 12 swordmanship. (provided mods etc. are the same)
Your level also influences your active damage level, but since in PvP everyone is lvl 20 this doesn't affect PvP. (this is why lvl 28 elementalists are such huge dmg dealers, and this is why Ghostly Hero ownssssszzz people with Power Shot)
I hope I answered your question. If anything was unclear or left unanswered, feel free to PM me.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk
If you don't meet the requirement for your weapon, it's treated like a starter version of that weapon. In your case, the sword would be treated like a 2-3 dmg sword if you had 7 swordmanship or lower.
If you meet the requirement, it's treated at it's actual level (which in your case I presume is 15-22)
Your swordmanship level increases the percentage of dmg you actually do. 8 is pretty low, and I recall it's about 60% at 8 swordmanship. At 12 you do 100% of the dmg, and at 16 you do 115%. I don't know if you can call that 'hidden', but it is extra dmg yes.
A req. 11 sword at 12 swordmanship will do the exact same dmg as a req.7 sword at 12 swordmanship. (provided mods etc. are the same)
Your level also influences your active damage level, but since in PvP everyone is lvl 20 this doesn't affect PvP. (this is why lvl 28 elementalists are such huge dmg dealers, and this is why Ghostly Hero ownssssszzz people with Power Shot)
I hope I answered your question. If anything was unclear or left unanswered, feel free to PM me.
now why cant we find info this detailed about this on guildwiki--where it's somewhat vague. Thomas.knbk, where did you learn that info? thanks.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

btw: what are the different % of damage from attribute 8-16?