i want to play gw
commanderkev
i need a video card, nothing too fancy, just something to play gw with high quality, please help, i know nothing about video cards
Lord Xeshm
A little bit more info is needed. Like can your motherboard use AGP or PCI-E or even neither if you have an older PC.
tijo
A GeForce 6600 128mb will do the job nicely so will a 6800, 7600, 7800 etc. I don't really use ATI video cards so i can't help you with those but im sure someone else will fill in the blanks on ATI. Just don't go for any 2nd number lower than 6 if you want to buy a GeForce else graphics and framerate won't be very good.
EDIT: i agree your computer's hardware stats would help.
EDIT: i agree your computer's hardware stats would help.
lightblade
It's not that simple. It sounds like not only you know nothing about video card, but you also know little about computer hardware all together.
Tachyon
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i need a video card, nothing too fancy, just something to play gw with high quality, please help, i know nothing about video cards
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Dex
Is your PC a brand name or a custom job? If it's a brand name the brand and model number is enough for us to go on. If it's custom...it's a bit more complicated. Telling us how old the machine is and what type of CPU it has would be a good start.
GrandCharm~
GeForce FX 5200 , Cost About 29.99 if your budgets low
Dex
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GeForce FX 5200 , Cost About 29.99 if your budgets low
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If you're going to spend money at all for a gaming GPU, please don't get anything lower than a GeForce 6600GT or a GeForce 7600GT (the 7600GT is an outstanding value). These can both be had for under $100. Spending money on anything less than that IMHO is a big mistake. If you want something a little nicer the ATI x1950 Pro is a good card, and the x1950xt is even better. In that price bracket (midrange) ATI has nVidia beat handily, while nVidia is much better in the budget and ultra high-end ranges. The GeForce 7900-series is decent, but in that price range ATI's x19XX series GPUs are more future-proof due to their superior pixel-shader muscle and more complete Shader Model 3.0 implementation (nVidia's 79XX series GPUs have a somewhat crippled SM 3.0 implementation).
commanderkev
i have windows xp on a dell dimension 2400 seris, its a few years old
Dex
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i have windows xp on a dell dimension 2400 seris, its a few years old
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- Cards based on the Radeon 9250 GPU...not great, but they come in a 256MB flavor that would run Guild Wars at an acceptable level.
- Cards based on the Radeon x1300 GPU...again, not great, but at about the same level as the 9250 (slightly better) with support for newer graphics technologies. Significantly more expensive than the 9250 and IMHO not worth the money.
Avoid the ATI Radeon 7000, the nVidia FX 5200 (avoid all nVidia FX GPUs), and the nVidia MX4000 (and all MX-series GPUs for that matter).
Tachyon
Sorry, but going by the stats for the Dimension 2400 it doesn't even have an AGP slot. That means that you're limited to using a PCI card and nothing else.
Personally I'd look at something along the lines of a GeForce 6200 or ATI X1300.
Personally I'd look at something along the lines of a GeForce 6200 or ATI X1300.
commanderkev
thank ya dex
Dex
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Originally Posted by Azagoth
Sorry, but going by the stats for the Dimension 2400 it doesn't even have an AGP slot. That means that you're limited to using a PCI card and nothing else.
Personally I'd look at something along the lines of a GeForce 6200 or ATI X1300. |
At any rate, it's going to be better than the integrated video...
commanderkev
i found this HIS Hightech H925H256R4N Radeon 9250 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP 2X/4X Video Card for 47.99 and it looks good this is it
Tachyon
No, that's AGP and as such won't fit into your computer. You need a PCI based card, like these.
Click here!
Click here!
Dex
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i found this HIS Hightech H925H256R4N Radeon 9250 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP 2X/4X Video Card for 47.99 and it looks good this is it
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Have a look at these:
GeForce 6200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814143058
Radeon 9250 128MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161010
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814241031
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131284
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814103166
Radeon 9250 256MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814241020
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814103167
Dex
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No, that's AGP and as such won't fit into your computer. You need a PCI based card, like these.
Click here! |
Personally, I would go with the GeForce 6200 (probably the better of the 2 GPUs, but only 128MB of memory) or one of the 256MB 9250 cards.
commanderkev
ok so im probably going to get the GeForce 6200 but i noticed that it has
128mb and some of the others have 256mb its still good even though it has 128mb correct?
128mb and some of the others have 256mb its still good even though it has 128mb correct?
Dex
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ok so im probably going to get the GeForce 6200 but i noticed that it has
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commanderkev
GeForce 6200 it is thanks guys i dont know where i would be without you
DamFiNo
Just wanted to say thanks to all posters for an excellent thread. Very informative, with no arrogance, elitism, or flaming. Really, really nice 
moriz
one thing to be aware is, much of the power of the x1300 and 6200 gpus are lost in the PCI interface. yes, they are nice, and yes, they can render the game beautifully, but the PCI slot simply does not allow them to do it at acceptable speeds: the bandwidth is far too small.
you'll get much better performance from the 9250. it won't look as pretty, but it's not gonna slow down to 10 fps in an 8 person instance.
if you're not afraid to fork out a few more dollars, the BGH geforce fx5500 OC 256mb PCI is pretty nice. i can go max resolution with full eyecandy in lion's arch, and it can still render an acceptable 15-20 fps.
you'll get much better performance from the 9250. it won't look as pretty, but it's not gonna slow down to 10 fps in an 8 person instance.
if you're not afraid to fork out a few more dollars, the BGH geforce fx5500 OC 256mb PCI is pretty nice. i can go max resolution with full eyecandy in lion's arch, and it can still render an acceptable 15-20 fps.
llsektorll
i've ran guild wars with integrated geforce 2 MX as well as a geforce 1 card from the year 2000 with around 10 FPS in towns and 17FPS with no one with 512mb ram... at everything on low.
Dex
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one thing to be aware is, much of the power of the x1300 and 6200 gpus are lost in the PCI interface. yes, they are nice, and yes, they can render the game beautifully, but the PCI slot simply does not allow them to do it at acceptable speeds: the bandwidth is far too small.
you'll get much better performance from the 9250. it won't look as pretty, but it's not gonna slow down to 10 fps in an 8 person instance. if you're not afraid to fork out a few more dollars, the BGH geforce fx5500 OC 256mb PCI is pretty nice. i can go max resolution with full eyecandy in lion's arch, and it can still render an acceptable 15-20 fps. |
moriz
the 6200 and x1300 will send MORE data through the same bandwidth to achieve the better rendering. even if you turn graphic quality to the same level, those two cards will still send more data through the same bandwidth simply because they are designed to do so. even if they do perform at the same level as the 9250 at low graphic settings, you've essentially wasted your $$$ for additional eyecandy you will never use.
with that said, i replaced the BGH card with a crappier card of the same model number. this new card, despite being only 25 mhz slower on the GPU, can no longer acceptably render at the same pace as the BGH. go figure.
with that said, i replaced the BGH card with a crappier card of the same model number. this new card, despite being only 25 mhz slower on the GPU, can no longer acceptably render at the same pace as the BGH. go figure.
Dex
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Originally Posted by moriz
the 6200 and x1300 will send MORE data through the same bandwidth to achieve the better rendering. even if you turn graphic quality to the same level, those two cards will still send more data through the same bandwidth simply because they are designed to do so. even if they do perform at the same level as the 9250 at low graphic settings, you've essentially wasted your $$$ for additional eyecandy you will never use.
with that said, i replaced the BGH card with a crappier card of the same model number. this new card, despite being only 25 mhz slower on the GPU, can no longer acceptably render at the same pace as the BGH. go figure. |
As far as the price, the 6200 that I linked to is cheaper than the 256MB 9250s. So, at lower settings you're still getting a better value from the 6200.
As far as your last comment, if 25 mhz on the same GPU makes a difference, isn't that supporting my supposition that the faster of the two GPUs (the 6200) is the better choice?
moriz
the BGH card was made by.... well, BGH. the second card i got was made by Jupiter Digital. the fact that A: it's a worser manufacturer and B: probably have some wierd driver compatibility issues, probably constitutes the performance difference.
and lastly, the 6200 is probably not better than the 5500 performance wise. similar to how the 7300 is worse than the 6600. the first number for nvidia cards do not matter too much if it's 5 or above. it's the second number that really counts.
and lastly, the 6200 is probably not better than the 5500 performance wise. similar to how the 7300 is worse than the 6600. the first number for nvidia cards do not matter too much if it's 5 or above. it's the second number that really counts.
Dex
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and lastly, the 6200 is probably not better than the 5500 performance wise. similar to how the 7300 is worse than the 6600. the first number for nvidia cards do not matter too much if it's 5 or above. it's the second number that really counts.
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Now, granted, these benches are for AGP versions of the cards, but it's the only set of benches I could find:
http://www.digital-daily.com/video/n...up/index02.htm
It would seem that the 6200 is more powerful than the FX5500 for the most part in newer games. How the PCI bus affects this remains to be seen, but again, given that the way textures are transferred over the bus is significantly more efficient on the 6200 I would still favor the 6200. At any rate, that 6200 at Newegg is quite a good deal and should run GW just about as well (or better) as any other PCI video card.