Shards, Gems, and Golds Oh My!!! ele/A

RebelHero
                    If its you that wants thespiderno... unless you can hit in the R with the E/A
                
            
KennethD
                    The timing of sf:
Try to activate it when recharge of soh reaches 1.
            Try to activate it when recharge of soh reaches 1.

sentinel tank
                    lol, great build.......this also works on the minos :P
edit: works even better on trolls :P
            edit: works even better on trolls :P

Sprites
                    not that great on minos 
a late one and it's bad for you 
                
            
a late one and it's bad for you
 
                Myranda
                    great build thanks a lot for sharing it  
 
so far I ve been able to clear shadow army , beach , forge , part of the great battlefield and part of the forest too.
But I have some problems with the Skeletal Impalers , their traps really are a pain in the *** . Do you have any tip when fighting them?
 . Do you have any tip when fighting them?
                
             
 so far I ve been able to clear shadow army , beach , forge , part of the great battlefield and part of the forest too.
But I have some problems with the Skeletal Impalers , their traps really are a pain in the ***

Sprites
                    skeletal impalers i've not managed to kill one :x so i just dodge them
                
            
Metatail
                    Is it possible to farm anything in DoA ? I cant do enough damage to kill the enemies, they have to much health. Any tips ? And is it possible to tank in DoA as elementalist ?
                
            
Captain Jager
                    Yes, you can do pretty much most of gloom with 2-3 ppl but u'll need feigned nuetrality or another heal skill because of the aoe bleeding skill one of the tormentors has.The call to torment skill is a pain though if you don't kill them in time.
You can 2 man stygain's veil enemies that are like FoW such as the Scourage of Darkness. They drop torment gems also. Might be able to kill some of them solo if you have a near max rank of lb, not sure though.
            You can 2 man stygain's veil enemies that are like FoW such as the Scourage of Darkness. They drop torment gems also. Might be able to kill some of them solo if you have a near max rank of lb, not sure though.

Captain Jager
                    Sorry have another post, will add if to the build once the forest guide is complete. For the Skeleton impalers, right now, if they are not patrolling, is cast SF aggro pull them back a few feet or meters, to get away from the traps, cast m.s. then aggro. It seems to work fine but sometimes you might need 2 ppl to pull this off.
If they are patrolling simply catch them in the middle of their walk. You can also pull them a little if they cast some traps.
            If they are patrolling simply catch them in the middle of their walk. You can also pull them a little if they cast some traps.

Blobbe Tropper
                    whoo thnx for the build, works great,, only i havn't the right equipment.. but even with bad equipment i came far.. and got 3shards xP
thnx for build
            thnx for build

Crusheer
                    Hey, what about some update in post (Gloom, Veil or others) ? Im very interested with this  
                
             
                kielus
                    gloom works even in HM, just watch out from heart tormentors -> reversal of damage + zealots fire spam HURTS and hurts bad (unless u ditch in feigned neutrality), anyways works still :P
                
            Art Of Perfection
                    A few times I've gotten 2 shards from the FIRST GROUP ALONE.  I love this build! Been running it for a while, at first the warriors ALWAYS lived but when you get the hang of it every group can die in 1 go, sometimes you can kill 2 together.  Don't blame the build if you cant run it  just needs a 20% longer enchantments (REQUIRED) and then either attuned armor with a sup energy rune or a +15 -1 offhand and your set.
 just needs a 20% longer enchantments (REQUIRED) and then either attuned armor with a sup energy rune or a +15 -1 offhand and your set.  
In hard mode my first few tries they didn't die and followed me back when I escaped to kill the ghost. After a few tries I realized you might have to recast lava font or another move to finish them off but you CAN kill groups in hard mode, down part being it can take up to 4-5 trips PER group with a huge chance to fail from the start. So I simply didn't find it worth while. This has been on my favorites since I found it on google so I just wanted to say thanks 
 
One hint, in fow they don't kill you dead...you don't have to cast shadow form before battle, usually I cast it when I'm almost to the monster or right before the eles finish casting. Realized some people just HAVE TO use it before battle in fear of taking damage. You wont die in one hit...not in two...3 spells might kill you but slim chance theyll get that many out by the time your ready so your not halfway through casting and have to warp out and then blame the build.
             just needs a 20% longer enchantments (REQUIRED) and then either attuned armor with a sup energy rune or a +15 -1 offhand and your set.
 just needs a 20% longer enchantments (REQUIRED) and then either attuned armor with a sup energy rune or a +15 -1 offhand and your set.  In hard mode my first few tries they didn't die and followed me back when I escaped to kill the ghost. After a few tries I realized you might have to recast lava font or another move to finish them off but you CAN kill groups in hard mode, down part being it can take up to 4-5 trips PER group with a huge chance to fail from the start. So I simply didn't find it worth while. This has been on my favorites since I found it on google so I just wanted to say thanks
 
 One hint, in fow they don't kill you dead...you don't have to cast shadow form before battle, usually I cast it when I'm almost to the monster or right before the eles finish casting. Realized some people just HAVE TO use it before battle in fear of taking damage. You wont die in one hit...not in two...3 spells might kill you but slim chance theyll get that many out by the time your ready so your not halfway through casting and have to warp out and then blame the build.

Abonai Laguna
                    dam, got to try it:P
                
            
Croco Clouds
                    Huge bump, does this farming effective nowaday? Took me 1 hr to clear the entire beginning area (All shadow army, except Abyssals)
                
            
Elite Bushido
                    what the hell is it wit all these people bringin back dead topics lately?
                
            
Skinny Corpse
                    If you start a new topic on an old subject you make people mad, and
if you use the search utility and find an old thread on the subject you also
make people cranky.
What's the proper way to use this forum?
            if you use the search utility and find an old thread on the subject you also
make people cranky.
What's the proper way to use this forum?
~ Dan ~
                    
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					Originally Posted by Skinny Corpse
					
				
				If you start a new topic on an old subject you make people mad, and
if you use the search utility and find an old thread on the subject you also
make people cranky.
What's the proper way to use this forum? I've always wondered this. Maybe because the forum rules would suggest that the old thread had your answer. What if it doesn't? 
                
            if you use the search utility and find an old thread on the subject you also
make people cranky.
What's the proper way to use this forum? I've always wondered this. Maybe because the forum rules would suggest that the old thread had your answer. What if it doesn't?
 
                
Skinny Corpse
                    I mean, I find Croco Clouds question valid and I don't understand why
people get all upset about it.
            people get all upset about it.

Elite Bushido
                    well if a topic is dead doesnt that kinda say somethin for the build.
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            ........

Skinny Corpse
                    Not necessarily?
So, the proper way for Croco Clouds or anyone else to ask that
question would have been to not ask?
            So, the proper way for Croco Clouds or anyone else to ask that
question would have been to not ask?

Risus
                    Just a skill choice suggetion:
replace Flame Burst with Flame Djinn's Haste (same dmg)
cast Flame Djinn's Haste first, then Inferno
Why: Flame Djinn's Haste doesn't have a 1 second after-cast. 
                
            replace Flame Burst with Flame Djinn's Haste (same dmg)
cast Flame Djinn's Haste first, then Inferno
Why: Flame Djinn's Haste doesn't have a 1 second after-cast.
 
                
Nemo the Capitalist
                    .........hmmmmm thank you learinign ^^
                
            
MMSDome
                    How do you guys not die from the lightning touches from the ice hands?  They get me all the time >: (
                
            
Steady
                    I gave it a thought and here's a suggestion:
Replace [skill]Flame Burst[/skill] with [skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill] for the instant casting time on MS, it would save you A LOT of time for shadow form and it may make it quicker/safer.
Just a thought, will try it out later on.
            Replace [skill]Flame Burst[/skill] with [skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill] for the instant casting time on MS, it would save you A LOT of time for shadow form and it may make it quicker/safer.
Just a thought, will try it out later on.

S_Serpent
                    
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					Originally Posted by Steady
					
				
				I gave it a thought and here's a suggestion:
Replace [skill]Flame Burst[/skill] with [skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill] for the instant casting time on MS, it would save you A LOT of time for shadow form and it may make it quicker/safer.
Just a thought, will try it out later on. but remember sac will add 30 sec to the recharge MS then!
            Replace [skill]Flame Burst[/skill] with [skill]Glyph of Sacrifice[/skill] for the instant casting time on MS, it would save you A LOT of time for shadow form and it may make it quicker/safer.
Just a thought, will try it out later on. but remember sac will add 30 sec to the recharge MS then!
