Faction only monk?

Inichigo osani

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Hi, I could really use some suggestions for a Factions only monk build, as I don't have access to the other versions of GW, and would rather get some feedback so I don't have to waste alot of money on skills that I would find not useful. So are there any Idea's? Wiki currently doesn't have any builds for a Core/factions build.;(, (this build would be for PVE or PVP)

Ki Chimera

Ki Chimera

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

[skill]Blessed Light[/skill] is good

i would consider trying a Blessed Light build (more for PvP, but works ok in pve too) using prot spirit, Gift of Health, Reversal of Fortune, Signet of devotion, Mend ailment, Blessed Light, and probably dark escape + return, or other stuff for pve if you want (edit: like revealed hex/holy veil)

For healing, WoH is core, and you have ethereal light , healing whisper, orison, healing seed...etc.

Glyph of Lesser Energy + Heal Party (and other 10e skills) is pretty nifty

[EDIT (now that i'm at home and can use gwwiki)]
Spirit bond is also pretty nifty, but PS does about the same thing. Shielding hands is also pretty decent now that it has been buffed a bit. Don't rely too much on Wiki...there's an awful amount of chaff for the few good builds there.
If you ever want to get into more serious PvP, you will need to get the other chapters. NF has great elites ([skill=text]Light of Deliverance[/skill], [skill=text]Zealous Benediction[/skill], and [skill=text]Divert Hexes[/skill]), along with mending touch, dismiss condition, and shield of absorption (not so hot anymore) Prophesies has, well....mend condition, shield of deflection, and...uh, unyielding aura.
PvE-wise, a generic healing build will work fine. If you want to minimize the skills you need to buy, going with a prot/heal hybrid with blessed light works well enough
[skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Blessed Light[/skill][skill]Gift of Health[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Mend Ailment[/skill][skill]Signet of Devotion[/skill][skill]Revealed Hex[/skill][skill]Revealed Enchantment[/skill]

with olly123's attributes.
Protective Spirit can be replaced with [skill=text]Spirit Bond[/skill] or [skill=text]Shielding Hands[/skill]
the revealed skills are pretty much utility, you could bring a res (resurrection chant and rebirth are nice) or [skill=text]Power Drain[/skill] or GoLE + aegis or Heal Party (not too effective with such low prot and healing tho =\)
This works fine in PvE and PvP. But just work towards unlocking all the skills if you want to play your monk, since then you can tweak around with different skill combinations and adapt easier, even if it's only through balth. faction.

Can't help you much with a solo-ing build, since I haven't pve-ed in a long time. Not sure if it's possible anymore with just factions + core skills.
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Inichigo osani

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

sounds good, ill try it.. Thanks for the input Ki, anyone have a solo build idea?

Bowstring Badass

Bowstring Badass

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...

Purple Lingerie - :D

You have acess to protective spirit, spoil victor,vampiric touch, shielding hands correct and if you can try and get nightfall and prophicies.

olly123

olly123

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

sh*tvill england

tgc

Mo/

i made a threead on ym guilds forusm for a build for each game using only thats games moves/ core moeves heres the factiosn one i came up with :

Blessed light http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Blessed_Light (not only is it a big heal, it removes a hex and a condition, thho its a lot of energy so watch out)
signit of divotion (yet again main heal)
gift of health, (nice big heal for aonly 9 attrabutes )
Reversal of Fortune
protective spirit
Revealed Hex/mend aliment ( depends on the area ur in, and blessed light does most of the removle any way)
Rebirth

attrabutes
divine: 16 (12+3+1)
Healing 9 (8+1)
Protection 9 (8+1)
insperation

hope u liek it

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ki Chimera
[skill]Blessed Light[/skill] is good

i would consider trying a Blessed Light build (more for PvP, but works ok in pve too) using prot spirit, Gift of Health, Reversal of Fortune, Signet of devotion, Mend ailment, Blessed Light, and probably dark escape + return, or other stuff for pve if you want (edit: like revealed hex/holy veil)

For healing, WoH is core, and you have ethereal light , healing whisper, orison, healing seed...etc.

Glyph of Lesser Energy + Heal Party (and other 10e skills) is pretty nifty

[EDIT (now that i'm at home and can use gwwiki)]
Spirit bond is also pretty nifty, but PS does about the same thing. Shielding hands is also pretty decent now that it has been buffed a bit. Don't rely too much on Wiki...there's an awful amount of chaff for the few good builds there.
If you ever want to get into more serious PvP, you will need to get the other chapters. NF has great elites ([skill=text]Light of Deliverance[/skill], [skill=text]Zealous Benediction[/skill], and [skill=text]Divert Hexes[/skill]), along with mending touch, dismiss condition, and shield of absorption (not so hot anymore) Prophesies has, well....mend condition, shield of deflection, and...uh, unyielding aura.
PvE-wise, a generic healing build will work fine. If you want to minimize the skills you need to buy, going with a prot/heal hybrid with blessed light works well enough
[skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Blessed Light[/skill][skill]Gift of Health[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Mend Ailment[/skill][skill]Signet of Devotion[/skill][skill]Revealed Hex[/skill][skill]Revealed Enchantment[/skill]

with olly123's attributes.
Protective Spirit can be replaced with [skill=text]Spirit Bond[/skill] or [skill=text]Shielding Hands[/skill]
the revealed skills are pretty much utility, you could bring a res (resurrection chant and rebirth are nice) or [skill=text]Power Drain[/skill] or GoLE + aegis or Heal Party (not too effective with such low prot and healing tho =\)
This works fine in PvE and PvP. But just work towards unlocking all the skills if you want to play your monk, since then you can tweak around with different skill combinations and adapt easier, even if it's only through balth. faction.

Can't help you much with a solo-ing build, since I haven't pve-ed in a long time. Not sure if it's possible anymore with just factions + core skills.
[/edit] I would go with this build except replace mend ailment with mend condition.

Effigy

Effigy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Illinois, US

Heroes of Talia [HoT]

Mo/

Mend Condition is always a better choice than Mend Ailment in my book.

Ki Chimera

Ki Chimera

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
I would go with this build except replace mend ailment with mend condition. except, mend condition is prophesies >.<!
(as i think i stated above)

ArKaiN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lotus Branca[Lbr]

Mo/Me

For the solo, I think you're gonna have tough time, since you dont have access to any of the necessary 55'er skills-not even SA. You could make something that would look like a sliver armor 55'er, though, I think.

Inichigo osani

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

I don't see myself getting NF or Prophecies anytime in the near future, so please, no more sales pitches. Ty

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

Mend Ailment > Mend condition because you can actually use it on... yourself.

Don't solo with the build that Ki has, you'll die. There is no offense at all. Ki's build is okay, but not for solo. Its only okay because no rez (which in a PUG bunch its really bad).

Hmmm...

Factions only monk healing build:

Blessed Light(e)
Mend Ailment
Etheral Light
Healing Whisper
Signet of Devotion
Mend Ailment
Remove Hex
Rebirth/Resurrection Chant

I like to go:

Divine Favor: 12 (+rune + head piece)
Healing Prayers: 12 (+rune)
Protecton: 3 (+rune)

But that's just me.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ki Chimera
except, mend condition is prophesies >.<!
(as i think i stated above) Sorry didn't read that part just stick to mend ailment then.

Trixz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Mo/

Blessed light sucks.

olly123

olly123

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

sh*tvill england

tgc

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixz
Blessed light sucks. learn more about monk moves b4 u reply with stupid remarks

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixz
Blessed light sucks.
Quote:
learn more about monk moves b4 u reply with stupid remarks no hes pretty right. it sucks by now with the new NF elites, but its the best you can go with factions only.

olly123

olly123

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

sh*tvill england

tgc

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
no hes pretty right. it sucks by now with the new NF elites, but its the best you can go with factions only. sucks is not the word, sucks is healing breeze what ur looking for is outdated. still goodstill used and stil lvery nice, about 150 heal ( +DF), and 1 hex and 1 condtion removed also. but jsut so u get divert and ZB doesnt mean it sucks

-Pluto-

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

US

Diversionary Tactics [DT]

Mo/

In general, I'd say Divert Hexes is probably superior to Blessed Light. You generally won't use it for the heal or the condition removal as much as you would for removing hexes, and other than healing for about 40 more, it's not as effecient.

However, that's assuming that you only use to remove hexes. The one thing that might make me use BLight over Divert Hexes is that BLight is more versatile. If you can't rely on another monk to support you, being able to use BLight as an emergancy self-heal + condition removal is awesome (you can't cast gift of health on yourself, after all). I'd probably still prefer ZB with a holy veil though. But BLight is still a respectable bar.

Now running a prophecies only monk on the other hand... That could be a bit more difficult.

olly123

olly123

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

sh*tvill england

tgc

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Pluto-
In general, I'd say Divert Hexes is probably superior to Blessed Light. You generally won't use it for the heal or the condition removal as much as you would for removing hexes, and other than healing for about 40 more, it's not as effecient.

However, that's assuming that you only use to remove hexes. The one thing that might make me use BLight over Divert Hexes is that BLight is more versatile. If you can't rely on another monk to support you, being able to use BLight as an emergancy self-heal + condition removal is awesome (you can't cast gift of health on yourself, after all). I'd probably still prefer ZB with a holy veil though. But BLight is still a respectable bar.

Now running a prophecies only monk on the other hand... That could be a bit more difficult. ok that woudl b nice i na whats the best elite for a hybrid monk, but this is after faction only moves. :P so read the main post rather than say what ud prefer to run

-Pluto-

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

US

Diversionary Tactics [DT]

Mo/

The bar Ki Chimera posted looks fine.