Use of Henchies affects drops!??

wlucas44

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

[ME]

R/Mo

Yesterday, while I was about to enter Skyward Reach...someone told me that the use of henchies in a farming effort would reduce the drops by 40%. Is that true?

Further, I seem to have more and more difficulty finding friendly, MATURE players that are willing to help in a quest or go on a farming run. Perhaps it's the location I'm at, but lately....I seem to be finding more immature players that are quick to call people "noobs". What happened to the days of people wanting to explore the region? What happened to doing farming runs, not only for the drops, but to make new friends in the process?

It seems the game today is more bent on people making or scamming money from players than it is about teamwork and having fun.

That's why I wanted to use henchies for exploration / farming efforts....but if my drops are affected by this, what am I to do?

Sorry for the ramble....it just disappoints me that the game has become a merchant-driven game than what it's initial purpose was....a new, fun RPG.

chicks boy

chicks boy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

No guild

A/E

Yes they steal you're drops. And heroes steal you're drops too. Thats why never EVER give them a equiptable green item, son.

And Why do you choose Mature old people? You dont like funny, ignorant, energitic, immature people? If you dont like it then you got to love the ability to Ignore people on you're friends list, boi.

Z'HA'DUM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

E/Me

why not give the heroes a green item? oO

Pkest

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh)

R/

Your drops are affected by henchies in the same way they are affected by any other human party members. In a party of 8 you get 1/8 of the drops. In a party of 4 you get 1/4 of the drops. Since usually you can kill stuff faster with a larger party it all works out in the end.

meat shield

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

holland , delft

[NL]

A/W

there is a rumor going that every player gives +0.5 more drops starting at 1 at 1 player
so

one ppl in team=100%
2 ppl=150%
3 ppl=200%
4 ppl=250%
8 ppl=450%

however if you go solo you will get 100% drops
if you go 8 hench you will get 450/8 drops=~55
i think it works this way if they are off rader, but they WILL steal gold annyway

xcutioner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Plano/Texas/USA

NN - No Names

R/Me

The hero/henches will even stand around and not rez you until your gold item drop becomes anonymous so they can pick it up for themselves. Not only that but I tried forming heroway in HA a bunch of times but the hero/henches always kicked me so it would be an all hero team.

HMK

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sweden

W/Me

Hi.....well xcutioner,dont use that sarcasm on him! I would like to agree with wlucas44 regarding the pug's ; if a mission/quest/run is doable with hench or heroes then I prefer that instead of a pug like wlucas described.And nowadays its hard finding a nice,teamacting pug.Of course .....depends on where ur playing/farming,what mission and so on.I have done loads of missions etc with hench/heroes.Been playing for 2 years now,have Prophecies,Factions and Nightfall.Played almost all proffessions at lvl 20.

Flightmare

Flightmare

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

NL

Infinite Omega Negatives

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by meat shield
there is a rumor going that every player gives +0.5 more drops starting at 1 at 1 player
so

one ppl in team=100%
2 ppl=150%
3 ppl=200%
4 ppl=250%
8 ppl=450%

however if you go solo you will get 100% drops
if you go 8 hench you will get 450/8 drops=~55
i think it works this way if they are off rader, but they WILL steal gold annyway I don't think that's right, it means you got a chance of .55 of getting a drop and that doesn't happen to me nor my friends.

DeanBB

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

Quote:
there is a rumor going You can stop reading right there...

Go ahead and take heroes/henchies, just remember that they take their fair share of loot just as any other team mate would. They neither increase nor decrease drops, they just take what drops for them. From that point of view then they do decrease drops.

As for teaming up, that's what guilds are for. You show a tag in your profile, is that just for show?

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

Quote:
Thats why never EVER give them a equiptable green item, son.

And Why do you choose Mature old people? You dont like funny, ignorant, energitic, immature people? If you dont like it then you got to love the ability to Ignore people on you're friends list, boi. Quoted for Idiocy. Equiped items have in no way any effect on drops.

Henches do steal drops, they act as normal party members, as explained earlier.

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

I think he was joking, saying that heros are greedy little bastards and since they steal your drops in an instanced area, they might run off with your green item as well.

S H A D O W S O U L

S H A D O W S O U L

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Portugal

Tribal Clan

Mo/

Well If your planning on farming Green Items just get a build where you can wipe the boss by yourself, take henchs/heroes and kill the all the boss mob EXCEPT the boss. Then send your npc's away until they're names on the party bar become gray. Now the boss drops are all for you (you can confirm this by the experience it gives when you kill it).

As for the normal drops...npc's affect yout drops as much as human's do, simply you just don't see what drops for npc's so it looks less for you.

Riceboi

Riceboi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by xcutioner
The hero/henches will even stand around and not rez you until your gold item drop becomes anonymous so they can pick it up for themselves. Not only that but I tried forming heroway in HA a bunch of times but the hero/henches always kicked me so it would be an all hero team. hahaha Thanks I needed a good laugh.

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

If you need help, but can't solo an area, alot of rez shrines in factions have monks that are fairly good healers. some builds focus around these. and these allies wont take any drops.

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

Quote:
I think he was joking, saying that heros are greedy little bastards and since they steal your drops in an instanced area, they might run off with your green item as well. No, Chicks Boy has been known for making remarks matching his IQ thats the level of a primate. Sorry to say, but its true.

disarm76

disarm76

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Portugal

If I go with hero/hench I almost never have a golden drop.
If I go in a party of 8 humans they do drop.
After 4300h of playing, don't tell me it's bad luck!!

RebelHero

RebelHero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Shaolin Monastery [Heal]

Mo/

Henches take drops, but you dont get to see what is dropped... 1/8 drops is for you when you go with a party of 8. In case of players you see the drops, with henches you only see your own.

wlucas44

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

[ME]

R/Mo

Thanks for the great discussion everyone. I ignored one post (Chick Boy), as I've noticed he doesn't provide much valuable insight on this forum.

I'll speak with some of my guild members to see if they're interested in doing some farming with me. If not, I'll take 2 healer henchies (and maybe another henchie) to do some farming with. I don't have much success with other players these days, as they tend to leave in the middle of a run, or are just ignorant/rude.

Again, I appreciate the insight everyone. Take care and happy hunting!

DeanBB

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

You're really better off either going solo or going with a full team as described above and sending them away before killing the boss. There are a lot of bosses that you can solo, depending on what you're playing and where you are at so just use some of the existing builds from here or guildwiki.

watrah

watrah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Dynasty Warrior

N/Me

it is as simple as this party of 8 ppl mean every one have a chance of 1/8=12.5% to get the drop and it is random drop it not mean if every one will get 1 drop every 8 drop because it is random so if u do some good math the real % will be like 1.6% chance

but this not mean u wont get any drop at all but u can tell from expert ppl some time u go with team and u dont get any drop at all exept gold share

Swame Rain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Washington

Lazy

Mo/

IT's just INSANE how many people don't understand this concept of henchies/heros getting drops...it's been around since day one of GW...guess there will always be newb player around to ask this question.

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

R/

It's confusing because of the fact that we don't see the actual drops on the ground. With other people, you see that it's on the ground, and assigned to Player X.

wlucas, if you need somebody to go farming with you, I'll gladly come just wisp me in-game, I'm on most weekdays from 6 pm GMT to 10pm, and most of the weekend. My IGN is in my profile. Only in Prophecies, though, because Factions confuses me and I don't have NF.

And for going with only henchmen, I used a Beastmaster build with a warior and two healers in Grenth's footprint, cleared it a few times.

Chris