I currently have a Furious Zodiac Sword of Fortitude on my Warrior, with the following stats (it's gold by the way):
Damage 15-22 (Req 9)
Damage +20% (while Hexed)
Double adrenaline on hit (Chance 10%)
Health +29
Do you guys think I would be able to trade it with someone for a Gothic Sword that's 15-22, 15^50 and req 9? I don't care which color it is or what mods are on it. The Zodiac's nice and all, but I really like the Gothic Sword skin since it would match with my armor (15k Kurzick) and shield (Serrated Shield).
Do you think I could trade these swords?
RSGashapon
Knightsaber Sith
You could probably get a req9 gothic sword if you found someone interested; but I'm not sure about 15^50
placebo overdose
sadly enuff i highly doubt it people are short sighted when it comes to damage mods everyone wants a 15^50 when imo there are clearly better damage mods (15% -5 en)
RSGashapon
Sorry, but I don't consider -5 energy to be "better".
ShadowsRequiem
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sadly enuff i highly doubt it people are short sighted when it comes to damage mods everyone wants a 15^50 when imo there are clearly better damage mods (15% -5 en)
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even with a shock axe war -5 is terrible you want to get stuck in frenzy because your energy pool is too low?
If your looking trying to save money buy a higher req, req 12 15^50 gothic swords sell pretty cheap even a req 10 or 11 might sell for 30-50k just try to shop around a bit.
placebo overdose
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even with a shock axe war -5 is terrible you want to get stuck in frenzy because your energy pool is too low?
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ShadowsRequiem
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lol you could never catch me using frenzy
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just bring a cancel stance such a rush or sprint.
that is if you're talking about pvp
Malice Black
How about you keep it on topic?
Someone swapping a R9 15^50 gothic for yours? no chance in hell, the value of yours is far lower then the 15^50 gothic..value means everything.
Someone swapping a R9 15^50 gothic for yours? no chance in hell, the value of yours is far lower then the 15^50 gothic..value means everything.
RSGashapon
No of course not, because everything good in this game is worth 100K+50e... and if you have anything else but that, you're stuck with crap.Generosity is dead.
Lutae
That innate +20% while hexed is going to put a serious dent on your Zodiac's attractibility. It's something you have absolutely no control over - at least with 15% vs. hexed foes, it is possible (whether wise or not, I won't comment) to put a cover hex such as parasitic bond to use that bonus.
I would recommend trying to trade for a high-req Gothic, especially if you want the coveted 15^50 mod. Even if it's req 13, any decent warrior running a swordsmanship build will easily meet that requirement. (And if you aren't running a swordsmanship build, then you wouldn't be worrying about your sword damage anyways.)
I would recommend trying to trade for a high-req Gothic, especially if you want the coveted 15^50 mod. Even if it's req 13, any decent warrior running a swordsmanship build will easily meet that requirement. (And if you aren't running a swordsmanship build, then you wouldn't be worrying about your sword damage anyways.)
Hockster
You'd need to find a collector for the Zodiac with that damage mod. Put it in the Sell section and hope for the best. It is a nice skin with a semi-rare perfect mod.
Mournblade
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No of course not, because everything good in this game is worth 100K+50e... and if you have anything else but that, you're stuck with crap.Generosity is dead. |
Would you give me 50k if I gave you 20k? Thats what you are asking for.
The Herbalizer
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No of course not, because everything good in this game is worth 100K+50e... and if you have anything else but that, you're stuck with crap.Generosity is dead. |
RSGashapon
Fine, since my request is so unreasonable to the free market of Guild Wars, what about just any Gothic Sword then? I still don't care what color it is or what modifiers it has. I'll find those on my own.
And yes I am rather peeved about GW's economy, as I am constantly seeing other players get highly sought after items with good re-saleability while I continue to get useless crap that's nothing more than merchant fodder. I get the impression my characters are nothing but running jokes, even though I play just as well as anyone else.
I apologize if I have stepped on any toes, but you might feel the same after watching every other person in your FoW group get 2-3 Obsidian Shards each while your inventory fills up with nothing but Gloom Seeds and Dark Remains.
And yes I am rather peeved about GW's economy, as I am constantly seeing other players get highly sought after items with good re-saleability while I continue to get useless crap that's nothing more than merchant fodder. I get the impression my characters are nothing but running jokes, even though I play just as well as anyone else.
I apologize if I have stepped on any toes, but you might feel the same after watching every other person in your FoW group get 2-3 Obsidian Shards each while your inventory fills up with nothing but Gloom Seeds and Dark Remains.
Dex
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I apologize if I have stepped on any toes, but you might feel the same after watching every other person in your FoW group get 2-3 Obsidian Shards each while your inventory fills up with nothing but Gloom Seeds and Dark Remains.
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. C'est la vie...it's just a game...
The Herbalizer
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Fine, since my request is so unreasonable to the free market of Guild Wars, what about just any Gothic Sword then? I still don't care what color it is or what modifiers it has. I'll find those on my own.
And yes I am rather peeved about GW's economy, as I am constantly seeing other players get highly sought after items with good re-saleability while I continue to get useless crap that's nothing more than merchant fodder. I get the impression my characters are nothing but running jokes, even though I play just as well as anyone else. I apologize if I have stepped on any toes, but you might feel the same after watching every other person in your FoW group get 2-3 Obsidian Shards each while your inventory fills up with nothing but Gloom Seeds and Dark Remains. |
Drop rates are random, nothing wrong with that..... You can buy highly desirable items instead of finding them.... Highly desirable items are usually rare, rare items are few in number therefore they dont drop tons. I have never found an item worth more than 30k (afaik) yet at one point I had one of the most impressive item collections in the game. You could attempt to make gold as many people who want nice items do. Collectors and green items are as good as golds. Golds arnt compulsory to perform well.
RSGashapon
I never said golds were compulsory. I said that I don't care what rarity color my weapons are, so there's no need to call me stupid (that is if you are calling me stupid, or the amount of trivial damage stupid).
And the reply to just buy said items isn't an option for me since I don't have a lot of gold and rarely farm. I'm not rich, so I don't buy vanity items or bling. I just want a sword, in my skin of choice, that's fairly decent in stats.
Blue, purple or gold, X^50-something... makes no matter to me, only the req and the skin. Because am I right in thinking that lower req item + higher attribute rank = more damage, correct?
And the reply to just buy said items isn't an option for me since I don't have a lot of gold and rarely farm. I'm not rich, so I don't buy vanity items or bling. I just want a sword, in my skin of choice, that's fairly decent in stats.
Blue, purple or gold, X^50-something... makes no matter to me, only the req and the skin. Because am I right in thinking that lower req item + higher attribute rank = more damage, correct?
Dex
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Because am I right in thinking that lower req item + higher attribute rank = more damage, correct?
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The Herbalizer
I never called you stupid.... I fail to see how it is possible to come to that conclusion when the sentence in question was about the damage difference between 15>50 and 14>50
ill maybe rephrase the sentence.
And the difference in damage between 14>50 and 15>50 is like .20 or something tiny.
low reqs + high att points dont lead to more damage. 12 in sword does max damage, it doesnt matter if you are using r7 sword or r12 sword damage will be same.
ill maybe rephrase the sentence.
And the difference in damage between 14>50 and 15>50 is like .20 or something tiny.
low reqs + high att points dont lead to more damage. 12 in sword does max damage, it doesnt matter if you are using r7 sword or r12 sword damage will be same.
lennymon
Yupper. like if your sword att is 16, you'll do *exactly* the same damage with an r8 max sword vs an r13 max sword.
Mournblade
To the OP: I think the wise thing to do would be to go to Ventari's Sell Forum and post a WTB there with whatever stats you decide are important to you. Complaining in this forum about how you don't farm and don't get the things you want isn't going to yield positive results.
RSGashapon
Ok, just to confirm my suspicions I did some testing in the Isle of the Nameless.
Intentionally leaving my Swordsmanship at 0, I starting hacking away at the Level 20 Suit of 80 Armor. Each hit was, on average, half that of my sword's 15-28 range. I continued to watch the numbers as I increased my Swordsmanship rank. At rank 9, matching the sword's requirement, my hits fell into its range, but only in the lower half of the spectrum (15-17). As I increased the rank farther, up to 12, each hit was higher, but still in the sword's damage range (25-27). I wasn't using any skills or runes, just basic swings. Occasionally a 28 or 29 would float up from the training dummy, but I attribute those to either good luck or rounding in the damage calculator.
It seems to me that higher ranks do have some affect on base weapon damage, but not by any large degree. Can anyone confirm this finding, cause I really don't want to make myself look like even more of a noob...
Intentionally leaving my Swordsmanship at 0, I starting hacking away at the Level 20 Suit of 80 Armor. Each hit was, on average, half that of my sword's 15-28 range. I continued to watch the numbers as I increased my Swordsmanship rank. At rank 9, matching the sword's requirement, my hits fell into its range, but only in the lower half of the spectrum (15-17). As I increased the rank farther, up to 12, each hit was higher, but still in the sword's damage range (25-27). I wasn't using any skills or runes, just basic swings. Occasionally a 28 or 29 would float up from the training dummy, but I attribute those to either good luck or rounding in the damage calculator.
It seems to me that higher ranks do have some affect on base weapon damage, but not by any large degree. Can anyone confirm this finding, cause I really don't want to make myself look like even more of a noob...
Dex
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Ok, just to confirm my suspicions I did some testing in the Isle of the Nameless.
Intentionally leaving my Swordsmanship at 0, I starting hacking away at the Level 20 Suit of 80 Armor. Each hit was, on average, half that of my sword's 15-28 range. I continued to watch the numbers as I increased my Swordsmanship rank. At rank 9, matching the sword's requirement, my hits fell into its range, but only in the lower half of the spectrum (15-17). As I increased the rank farther, up to 12, each hit was higher, but still in the sword's damage range (25-27). I wasn't using any skills or runes, just basic swings. Occasionally a 28 or 29 would float up from the training dummy, but I attribute those to either good luck or rounding in the damage calculator. It seems to me that higher ranks do have some affect on base weapon damage, but not by any large degree. Can anyone confirm this finding, cause I really don't want to make myself look like even more of a noob... |
The Herbalizer
you will do more damage with 12 in sword than you would with 8 in sword
you would do do damage with 16 in sword than you would with 12 in sword
etc.
most sword warriors want to deal damage so high att points in sword is a good idea.
if you use high att points high req weapons i.e. 12 and 13 are perfectly usable.
the whole idea that low req leads to more crits has been proved countless number of times to be false. there is absolutely no advantage to using a low req weapon when running high amounts of att points.
you would do do damage with 16 in sword than you would with 12 in sword
etc.
most sword warriors want to deal damage so high att points in sword is a good idea.
if you use high att points high req weapons i.e. 12 and 13 are perfectly usable.
the whole idea that low req leads to more crits has been proved countless number of times to be false. there is absolutely no advantage to using a low req weapon when running high amounts of att points.
RSGashapon
I give up, guess I'll settle for whatever I can find.
Soul of the Scythe
wha tthe people who poated in here were trying to say about damage is that say you have:
BTW: max dmg on sowrd = 15-22 not 15-28
a req 9 max dmg zodiac sword(or any type)
and
a req 13 max dmg zodiac sword(or any type)
with
16 points into swordsmanship
and 16 points into strength
regardless of the sword you use, the damage will be EXACTLY the same.
as long as the attributes are the same level, you meet the required level for the dmg on the weapon, and the weapons are the same base damage, the damage will be the same.
and some tips for making money: do chest runs in desolation. you can find dead swords, fiery and icy blade axes, and even elemental swords(very rare, i've found a few tho) one elemental sword will solve your money problem for a good long time. do the runs solo, no heros, or bring one so u can take down bosses as well and use as distraction. i suggest the sulfurous wastes.
BTW: max dmg on sowrd = 15-22 not 15-28
a req 9 max dmg zodiac sword(or any type)
and
a req 13 max dmg zodiac sword(or any type)
with
16 points into swordsmanship
and 16 points into strength
regardless of the sword you use, the damage will be EXACTLY the same.
as long as the attributes are the same level, you meet the required level for the dmg on the weapon, and the weapons are the same base damage, the damage will be the same.
and some tips for making money: do chest runs in desolation. you can find dead swords, fiery and icy blade axes, and even elemental swords(very rare, i've found a few tho) one elemental sword will solve your money problem for a good long time. do the runs solo, no heros, or bring one so u can take down bosses as well and use as distraction. i suggest the sulfurous wastes.
RSGashapon
15-28 was a typo, oops. I was thinking damage range for bows, since my main character is a Ranger.
I did have a Gothic Sword drop for me today though. It's max damage, purple and req 10. But, guess what the inherent mod is? Damage +14%... while hexed. Ugh. Have I no luck whatsoever?
I did have a Gothic Sword drop for me today though. It's max damage, purple and req 10. But, guess what the inherent mod is? Damage +14%... while hexed. Ugh. Have I no luck whatsoever?
dansamy
Hmmm. I might have a Gothic Sword somewhere....brb.
edited to add: I have one that's +20% <50%hp. You're welcome to it at a cheap price if you'd like to have it.
edited to add: I have one that's +20% <50%hp. You're welcome to it at a cheap price if you'd like to have it.
RSGashapon
Thanks, but no thanks. I'll just find a better one on my own and move on.
This thread can die now.
This thread can die now.