How to handle cheating?

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

I am slowly learning PvP, so I ask this to anyone who has encountered this before.

Our team of 4 sliced through 3 of the other team really quick. At this point, they hung around, one of their monks said she was turning on a macro, and then just stood still. Because of RA, we don't have anyone who can remove enchantments or kd or anything... we just deal damage apparently. We can't hurt her, and she's just standing there, obviously afk. We all took screenies of her saying she was turning on the macro. Is this a reportable offense? I ask only because we are in minute 35 of this stupid battle. Also, is this commonplace?

Riotgear

Riotgear

has 3 pips of HP regen.

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Objective Is More [Cash]

W/

Anet's policy on macros is actually quite light, in that they're OK with practically anything as long as you're actually THERE.

AFKing while your computer plays for you, however, is quite bannable.

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Maybe I'm just a noob, but I think needing a macro to begin with is laughable. We all just left eventually, not too long after my post. I reported it, so they can do whatever it is they want. I really don't expect much from them. I'll just keep playing.

Morganas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

They weren't using a macro, just saying that so you would leave, knowing that hanging around was futile. Usually when two teams in RA are too noob to kill one another, it turns into some retarded psychological game where you try and get the other team to leave. Some players will say "I've got a television in my room I can stay here all night lol", others will claim they're using a macro.

Really, you shouldn't have hung around an RA game for 30 minutes in the first place.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Why did you actually stay in the match?

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

When you're close to that glad point, your focus shifts. And our team basically was in mower mode. Plus our team was typing to each other the whole time. He just had that one setup that when everything was pressed just right, we could not hurt him. Furthermore, he was no help to his team. If I had my PvE setup, he'd have been dead because it's set up for a little bit of everything. Trust me, it won't happen again.

I'll just let this end here. Thanks for the replies. I'm not worried about this or RA anymore truthfully.

Noz Crow

Noz Crow

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/Mo

I have ran into to this kind of thing lately. I bet it was a dervish and probably a D/E. We saw one that was using Obsidian flesh and he couldn't really take any large amounts of damage with the group i was in. I was playing monk, so i couldn't do anything anyway. We all left after a few minutes of everyone taunting.

Dzan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Black Dye Cartel

He said it was a monk. My guess is this monk had 55 health, prot spirit and healing breeze. Congratulations, you got farmed like an aataxe.

I Write Sins

I Write Sins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Ft Irwin, California

Webel Wising [wawr]

Mo/

if u want gladiator, i dont suggest doing RA in the first place...there's plenty of noobs to farm in TA...i got gladr2 in 1 day of TAing....

~and on another note u said "Our team of 4 sliced through 3 of the other team really quick" and "When you're close to that glad point, your focus shifts." 5 consecs = not close to glad point in RA ...u never know which team could pop up with 2 monks

~besides....who actually takes serious builds into RA ...i mean ffs its Retard arenas u can win with anything...i got a glad point running a Healers Boon W/mo....

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Write Sins
if u want gladiator, i dont suggest doing RA in the first place...there's plenty of noobs to farm in TA...i got gladr2 in 1 day of TAing....

~and on another note u said "Our team of 4 sliced through 3 of the other team really quick" and "When you're close to that glad point, your focus shifts." 5 consecs = not close to glad point in RA ...u never know which team could pop up with 2 monks

~besides....who actually takes serious builds into RA ...i mean ffs its Retard arenas u can win with anything...i got a glad point running a Healers Boon W/mo....
50 glad points times 10 matches times 90 seconds is quite a bit. LIke 12.5 hours (straight, no breaks no pause, no waiting, "pawning" teams in 60 secs), provided u make all these streaks at once. I think u are exaggerating a bit here.

If they would have been using macros they would violate the EULA as far as i know, also a macro is third party software. Proving they actually use it is quite "difficult" if not impossible.

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Quote:
Originally Posted by I Write Sins
if u want gladiator, i dont suggest doing RA in the first place...there's plenty - to farm in TA...i got gladr2 in 1 day of TAing....
Yeah, TA is it for me now. I should have been more clear, I'm doing TA not RA anymore. RA was wierd though. One time we had a good team, and it started putting us in TA for like 4 matches.

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

R/

It does that when you get to 10 consecutive wins.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

I believe that if someone types in chat window that he/she is using a macro and you report it to ANet, it would be up to that player to prove he/she was NOT using one.

Reporting things like this is not useless. ANet investigates (checks logs, watches for more reports, etc.) and will punish the violator as they see fit. Their normal bans are short and increase in length as violations continue. Get enough valid complaints and you are gone permanently.

What players fail to take into account is this takes time. Unless you screw up right in front of a ANet employee, the whole process can take days to weeks. With 3 million plus games sold, and the amount of stupid behavior we all see daily, ANet must get thousands of violation reports daily.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

why would you get owned by some invincimonk build? or was he simply out-healing. either way why would you come here and complain. if you cant kill a sad build like that dont come complain someplace where people will make fun of you.

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
why would you get owned by some invincimonk build? or was he simply out-healing. either way why would you come here and complain. if you cant kill a sad build like that dont come complain someplace where people will make fun of you.
You do realize that he was asking how he would report the person for saying they were using a macro, right? Not because he couldn't kill that person...

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

I know that, but he probably wasnt using a macro, its pretty sad to have 4 people beating on 1 monk for 30 minutes.

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
I believe that if someone types in chat window that he/she is using a macro and you report it to ANet, it would be up to that player to prove he/she was NOT using one.

Reporting things like this is not useless. ANet investigates (checks logs, watches for more reports, etc.) and will punish the violator as they see fit. Their normal bans are short and increase in length as violations continue. Get enough valid complaints and you are gone permanently.

What players fail to take into account is this takes time. Unless you screw up right in front of a ANet employee, the whole process can take days to weeks. With 3 million plus games sold, and the amount of stupid behavior we all see daily, ANet must get thousands of violation reports daily.
Don't forget that even if ANET bans someone, they won't tell you about it. Your only hope is that the person that got banned finds out you caused it, so that he or his friend will tell you he got banned. Depending on how he tells you, you might be able to get him banned again for harassment.

wlucas44

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

[ME]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
I know that, but he probably wasnt using a macro, its pretty sad to have 4 people beating on 1 monk for 30 minutes.
Good job on being constructive and staying on topic.

At any rate, I believe what Darcy stated is right-on. ANet is bombarded daily with reports and it does take considerable time to investigate. The responsibility to prove innocence rests with the suspected player, considering the statements portrayed in-game.

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
I know that, but he probably wasnt using a macro, its pretty sad to have 4 people beating on 1 monk for 30 minutes.
Sorry man. I am just getting into this and don't have all the warrior skills yet. Sometimes we get a ranger, necro or mesmer with better shutdown capabilities, but we randomly didn't this time.

CDittric77

CDittric77

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

A Famous Small Town in PA

Saints of Avalon

R/Mo

Darcy is straight and to the ponit. And, nevermind the banned people that do all they can to return to the game under a false pretense.

ArKaiN

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

Lotus Branca[Lbr]

Mo/Me

It didn't have to be a 55 btw, many prot builds with ZB+enchants that reduce dmg+guardian can stay alive indefinitely against any number of non-interrupting, non-enchantment removing foes. He could even be using SoR.

Darko_UK

Darko_UK

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

England

R/

You were fighting a 55hp monk get over it.

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzan
He said it was a monk. My guess is this monk had 55 health, prot spirit and healing breeze. Congratulations, you got farmed like an aataxe.
Prot spirit, Shield of Absorption and Zealous Benediction. These are all completely common skills found on just about every monk in RA.

Don't need 55 to be invincible against pure damage dealers.