it would make sense if zealous benediction is under healing prayer...

arzamond

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Batavia

The Order of Baa [Baa]

R/

it would make sense if zealous benediction is under healing prayer... right?

i can't see why zb is under protection prayers. no matter how you see it, it purpose is to heal ally! it's not protecting, just heal!

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Being in prot is what makes it good.
As a protection monk, you need a direct heal. No matter what. Previously, you had to spec into healing to get that heal, and it wouldn't be self-targeted. (Gift of Health was the heal of choice)
What ZB does, is allowing protection monks to spread their attributes over fewer attributes, which is indeed quite powerful.
To be honest, if it was in healing it would be a pretty bad elite.

CR3AT0R

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

2 paras and a war is strong aoe [lol]

Whats going on [sup]

Mo/

if it was healing it would be bad.
WoH > ZB
if both where healing.

Relambrien

Relambrien

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Delaware, USA

Error Seven Operators [Call]

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For the RPG'ers out there -

"Protection" can be defined as anything that prevents something negative happening to an ally.

Zealous Benediction is designed to be used when the target is under half health. Thus PROTECTING it from dying with a massive heal. And when I last checked, dying was something negative.

Mitchel

Mitchel

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Almkerk, The Netherlands

P/W

Yes lets put Divine Favor under healing to because it heals.
/unsarcasm

Xeones The Great

Xeones The Great

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first off, to correct some peeps. ZB>WoH!

ZB is in prot prayers, so a prot monk can have a 200+heal w/o speccing into healin.

u can target yourself with ZB.

if circumstances are met in both situations, ZB is a free target ALLY 190hp heal.

if circumstances are NOT met, ZB heals for over double WoH, while costing double the energy.

same cast time, same recharge time.

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeones The Great
first off, to correct some peeps. ZB>WoH!
He said 'if both were healing. And he's correct about that.

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

Yea the only thing putting ZB in Healing would do is give healbots another skill to copy-pasta in a template. Prot monks need some love, plus it helps take the pressure off healbots also.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

No. /notsigned
Your thinking about this skill in the wrong way. The reason for its existance is to but a healing spell into protection. Move it and it would be pointless.
The skill works in terms of gameplay. Your thinking about the skill in terms of "realism." Its a skill that heals in protection, therefore its "wrong."

ZB should stay because of the improved gameplay of it as it allows for more usage of straight up protection prayers monks in PvE.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

ZB in healing would be better than WoH, if used correctly (ie, only when the target is below 50%)...one is a free 190 point heal, the other costs 5. =/ I can't see how people are saying WoH is better.

Aera

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

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ZB is a gift from the Gods to GvG monks...infuse, switch weapon, ZB, voila back to full hp for freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Keep it prot please.

( For all the PvE'ers: Yes GvG monks run infuse even though they're prot monks )

Skye Marin

Skye Marin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

E/A

I think we need a good protection elite in healing.

Hands of Dwayna - Healing Prayers
5 1/4 8
Elite Spell. For 1..5 seconds, target ally cannot lose more than 5% of his total health from any single attack skill or spell that causes damage.

Plague

Plague

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/E

I personally get tired of seeing ZB used in PvP. If a monk uses it on himself when he's below 50% health (sometimes difficult to manage anyway) then he gets a massive boost of health and gains back 10 energy, and it recharges seconds later. So effectively, the only way to kill a monk with this skill is to interrupt the skill or to spike him with an incredible amount of damage, or just overwhelm him absolutely.

Puebert

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

Its under protection.

It should stay.

Otherwise I'd have to go back to WoH. :S

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plague
I personally get tired of seeing ZB used in PvP. If a monk uses it on himself when he's below 50% health (sometimes difficult to manage anyway) then he gets a massive boost of health and gains back 10 energy, and it recharges seconds later. So effectively, the only way to kill a monk with this skill is to interrupt the skill or to spike him with an incredible amount of damage, or just overwhelm him absolutely.
Gotta love people who think they know about PvP game balance when they play RA every once in a while.
ZB isn't close to imba.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Gameplay > Realism

Theres lots of skills that don't fit the description of the attribute line.

Quote:
I personally get tired of seeing ZB used in PvP. If a monk uses it on himself when he's below 50% health (sometimes difficult to manage anyway) then he gets a massive boost of health and gains back 10 energy, and it recharges seconds later. So effectively, the only way to kill a monk with this skill is to interrupt the skill or to spike him with an incredible amount of damage, or just overwhelm him absolutely.
Play some real PvP please, RA doesn't count.

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

Have to admit... ZB doesnt make a whole lot of sense under prot, however im not saying "ZOMG MOVEI T!"

""Protection" can be defined as anything that prevents something negative happening to an ally.

Zealous Benediction is designed to be used when the target is under half health. Thus PROTECTING it from dying with a massive heal. And when I last checked, dying was something negative."

But under that logic, couldnt you say the same thing about WoH?... or any healing prayer for that matter since they all prevent them from dying?

My idea of healing is recovering from damage taken, protection is PREVENTING damage from being taken.

arzamond

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Batavia

The Order of Baa [Baa]

R/

saying 'i need healing for my protection monk with protection attribute' is similiar like 'i need damage with my protection attribute'...

creelie

creelie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Alberta

Charter Vanguard [CV]

Mo/

/notsigned

Honestly? If I were reading the skill description for the first time, and didn't know the attribute, I would have pegged it as Healing. But I'm very happy it's not.