I can't get a good build for PvE for W/A

Nederweert Rules!

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

None atm :P

11 Mar 2007 at 14:42 - 1

I need a good build with own healing skills because those damned Henchman can't heal proberly.
so? anyone can give me a Build for W/A for PvE that will keep me alive VS 3-6 enemy's??

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

11 Mar 2007 at 14:47 - 2

It's not your build, it's not the henchies, it's how you play with those henchmen.

BUILD:

Dolyak Signet
Deadly Paradox
Feigned Neutrality
Dark Escape
Watch Yourself!
Healing Signet
Gladiator's Defense
Riposte

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Lion's Arch Merchant

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11 Mar 2007 at 15:01 - 3

well, i don't think so because i have been playing with these henchies for over one year and they never gave me more problems then wen im like, farming Sorrow's Furnace or doing a Mission when there are no peeps around so i have to do it with my henchies butt then sometimes they just die and i hate that because they are sometimes so stupid that they run into mobs without me giving they order. BTW i only have factions and Prophecies so please no NF skills

ss1986v2

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

11 Mar 2007 at 17:31 - 4

yeah, dont blame the henchmen. they are fine; you can get through all of the game with just henchmen. play style usually dictates success.

as for the build, pretty much the same for any standard pve warrior:

Elite Attack
Attack Skill
Attack Skill
Attack Skill
IAS
Optional/Self Heal
Optional
Rez

just fill in the spots to taste. just because you have /A as your secondary, doesnt mean your bar has to be filled with assassin skills. one or two or even none are just fine.

Cathode_Reborn

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

11 Mar 2007 at 20:16 - 5

[skill]Shroud of Distress[/skill]

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

E/Mo

12 Mar 2007 at 09:45 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

[skill]Shroud of Distress[/skill] that skill sucks.

Reinfire

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Amsterdam, NL

The Guild of Cunning Artificiers [ANKH]

12 Mar 2007 at 11:05 - 7

Quote:

Elite Attack
Attack Skill
Attack Skill
Attack Skill
IAS
Optional/Self Heal
Optional
Rez Standard skill-bar templates like that are rubbish IMO, some people find 2 attack skills effective, others like 5. Also your elite can just as well be from the 2 support attributes Tactics and Strength. Also it can hugely differ in different weapon types, he didnt gave his weapon of choice.

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12 Mar 2007 at 15:15 - 8

I like use swords

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12 Mar 2007 at 15:18 - 9

also i like i sad before only factions and Prophecies i need to be able to stand my ground against 1-6 enemy's and be able to kill them with a W/A build, just to let u know

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12 Mar 2007 at 15:36 - 10

also i like i sad before only factions and Prophecies i need to be able to stand my ground against 1-6 enemy's and be able to kill them with a W/A build, just to let u know

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12 Mar 2007 at 15:53 - 11

A Leprechaun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

12 Mar 2007 at 16:43 - 12

o.O quadruple post.
Why does it have to be W/A anway?
I find henchmen work fine, .
~A Leprechaun~

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

12 Mar 2007 at 16:46 - 13

I like the edit button
You know, you can change your secondary profession like 10 hours into the game in Factions and Nightfall?

Moa Bird Cultist

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hastings (UK) / Latham (USA)

Freedom Fanatical Scots [FFS]

E/W

12 Mar 2007 at 17:12 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nederweert Rules!

I need a Build for W/A that can keep me alive against 1-6 enemy's.
example ( use this now what cannot keep me alive )
1. Sever artery
2. Gash
3. Galrath slash
4. Final Thrust
5. Bonnetti's defence
6. Healing Signet
7. Death's Charge
8. Shadow refuge It's hard to see any specific fault there, though Death's Charge is a weak skill all around. Bonnetti's is kinda lame for general play as well. I won't claim for a second that this is a decent build, nor that I put more than 5 seconds thought into it, But I digress. Try this;

[skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Galrath Slash[/skill][skill]Sun And Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Dragon Slash[/skill]
[skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill][skill]Signet Of Malice[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Swordsmanship: 12+3+1
Tactics: 12+1

It has healing, it has defense, it even has condition removal. And it hits hard. Real hard.

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

12 Mar 2007 at 19:34 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nederweert Rules!

You must be the only guy I know that has trouble with henchies now, compared to before. I mean, some people have trouble with henchies before and now, or before, but not now. You seem to have no trouble before, but now you have problems.

Anyway, this better not be a problem now that you are a W/A. If so, then the only problem I see is that either you've been healing yourself as W/x before, or the henchies just hate Assassins. If its the latter, then we all better watchout, the human hate against assassins has now spread to the AI.

What are you trying to solo anyway?

What skills/profession were you before your W/A?

Blindness and hexes can kill your current build. What equipment are you using?

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

12 Mar 2007 at 21:33 - 16

Moa Bird! Um... Gash plx? Then we'll discuss anything else.

ss1986v2

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

12 Mar 2007 at 22:37 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reinfire

Standard skill-bar templates like that are rubbish IMO, some people find 2 attack skills effective, others like 5. Also your elite can just as well be from the 2 support attributes Tactics and Strength. Also it can hugely differ in different weapon types, he didnt gave his weapon of choice. i didnt offer that template as the holy grail, or say that anything different would be bad. its just a base. if you want 3 attack skills, go for it. if you want 5, do it. if you want a non-attack elite, more power to you. i just offered a proven template that would work well. nothing more, nothing less.

and i dont think which weapon you choose would affect that template. whether you run

[skill]Triple Chop[/skill][skill]Cyclone Axe[/skill][skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill]
or
[skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Dragon Slash[/skill]
or
[skill]Devastating Hammer[/skill][skill]Crushing Blow[/skill][skill]Fierce Blow[/skill][skill]Counter Blow[/skill]

they all still work.

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13 Mar 2007 at 07:56 - 18

well i was a W/Mo before when i was using Healing Hands to keep me alive ^^

i'm trying to make the sunjiiang mission in factions butt i can't make that with henchies and there are always to few people online there to play with me, also because u need to move with the spear of the luxons and the orn of saint victor ( or something like that

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Effigy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Illinois, US

Heroes of Talia [HoT]

Mo/

13 Mar 2007 at 13:10 - 19

For W/A Prophecies/Factions only, playing with henchies, this is what I'd recommend:

Sword 12+1+1-3 (preference on rune)
Strength 8+1
Tactics 10+1

Sever Artery
Gash
Sun and Moon Slash
Dragon Slash {E}
Tiger Stance
"Watch Yourself!"
"To the Limit!" or "For Great Justice!"
Resurrection Signet

If you had Nightfall I'd tell you to bring Flail. Tiger Stance seems like the best option you have since Flurry sucks and Frenzy is too dangerous when playing with henchies. Also if you had NF I'd recommend Disrupting Dagger since it's leet sauce, but alas. In short, you should consider investing in NF. Failing that, this build should serve you well enough.

If you bring 2 monk henchies, you shouldn't need Heal Sig. The -40 armor can be a problem if you have aggro anyway.

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

13 Mar 2007 at 13:20 - 20

Don't blame henchman because you suck and can't do a PvE mission, I don't know what your obssession with W/A factions only is, but this is a standard W/A build.

[skill]Sever Artery[/skill]
[skill]Gash[/skill]
[skill]Sun And Moon Slash[/skill]
[skill]Dragon Slash[/skill]
[skill]Dash[/skill]
[skill]Frenzy[/skill] Don't spam it...
[skill]Signet of Malice[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Ofcourse if your main goal is to be a hero and tank 1000 enemies and then have your party rage quit on you or blame the henchman you can always take [skill]Shadow Form[/skill], I'm pretty sure you will be able to stand a lot of aggro for some seconds.

PS: Before flaming, If you think about it, watching this guy using frenzy would be quite hilarious.

Pick Me

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Thornill, ON, Canada

THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)

W/R

13 Mar 2007 at 13:33 - 21

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nederweert Rules!
well i was a W/Mo before when i was using Healing Hands to keep me alive ^^

i'm trying to make the sunjiiang mission in factions butt i can't make that with henchies and there are always to few people online there to play with me, also because u need to move with the spear of the luxons and the orn of saint victor ( or something like that ) Honestly, I think you should use a pure warrior build, or a warrior with signet of malice. For item carry, you can actually drop those items and fight (unless you are carrying the pot from Tyria). If you want a pure stance tank (don't know exactly why) but you will need better skills than just those found in Factions.

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13 Mar 2007 at 17:44 - 22

k ty for that all and srry that i blamed the henchies to fast

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13 Mar 2007 at 18:01 - 23

This is my improved build
1. sever artery
2. Gash
3. Galrath Slash
4. Dragon Slash {E}
5. Tiger Stance
6. Sprint
7. Shadow Refuge ( for healing myself )
8. Signet of Malice

meat shield

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

holland , delft

[NL]

A/W

13 Mar 2007 at 19:14 - 24

i personly think spamming healsig or frenzy is a better choce than shadow form...

17 seconds? great
but you have only 41 heath aftherwards...

Franco Power

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

UK

W/

13 Mar 2007 at 19:19 - 25

Welcome to the World of Sarcasm meat shield, to the OP: Do you know why people use a Rez? (ho cares if dey dy dey suk in it lawll)