Hello
ive looked thru some threads about Protection Monk and most builds i find are Boon prot,and something ellse that was Called Active Prot monk and didn't use the skill Divine Boon,What are the main diffrences which is most effective,is Boon prot still a good build for Pve?
the point is what kind of protection monk builds are there for normal pve partyn?
and how come there's so few pure protection monks around?
so any tip's on Builds.
I Wanna try Play As prot Monk But What Kind?
Nexium
olly123
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Originally Posted by Nexium
Hello
ive looked thru some threads about Protection Monk and most builds i find are Boon prot,and something ellse that was Called Active Prot monk and didn't use the skill Divine Boon,What are the main diffrences which is most effective,is Boon prot still a good build for Pve?
the point is what kind of protection monk builds are there for normal pve partyn?
and how come there's so few pure protection monks around?
so any tip's on Builds. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10126086
check that thread for some preotection builds.
basicly a boon pretect relyed on the protection of RoF and gardiun to look after the team while healing with divine boon. but since the nerfs its become a back line build not favoured. if we know what games uve got we coudl give u a nice build to play with but that link i poisd has buileds for each game
ive looked thru some threads about Protection Monk and most builds i find are Boon prot,and something ellse that was Called Active Prot monk and didn't use the skill Divine Boon,What are the main diffrences which is most effective,is Boon prot still a good build for Pve?
the point is what kind of protection monk builds are there for normal pve partyn?
and how come there's so few pure protection monks around?
so any tip's on Builds. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10126086
check that thread for some preotection builds.
basicly a boon pretect relyed on the protection of RoF and gardiun to look after the team while healing with divine boon. but since the nerfs its become a back line build not favoured. if we know what games uve got we coudl give u a nice build to play with but that link i poisd has buileds for each game
Wilhelm
Just about every thread in the monk forum has builds listed in it.
LightningHell
I'll just give you a model, customizable Prot build.
(Elite Skill)
Signet of Devotion
Reversal of Fortune
Dismiss Condition
Protective Spirit / Spirit Bond / Shielding Hands
Gift of Health
(Secondary Skill / Optional Monk)
(Secondary Skill / Optional Monk)
Skills that you would want to fit in if you want to change the build:
Holy Veil
Spirit Bond
Shielding Hands
Secondaries:
/W for Disciplined Stance, Balanced Stance
/E for Glyph of Lesser Energy
/Me for...uh...Channeling?
/A for Dark Escape and Return
Glyph of Lesser Energy can be compounded with Aegis for further awesomeness.
The Elite skill can vary from Zealous Benediction, Blessed Light, Divert Hexes, Shield of Regeneration (compounded with Glyph of Lesser Energy), etc, etc.
(Elite Skill)
Signet of Devotion
Reversal of Fortune
Dismiss Condition
Protective Spirit / Spirit Bond / Shielding Hands
Gift of Health
(Secondary Skill / Optional Monk)
(Secondary Skill / Optional Monk)
Skills that you would want to fit in if you want to change the build:
Holy Veil
Spirit Bond
Shielding Hands
Secondaries:
/W for Disciplined Stance, Balanced Stance
/E for Glyph of Lesser Energy
/Me for...uh...Channeling?
/A for Dark Escape and Return
Glyph of Lesser Energy can be compounded with Aegis for further awesomeness.
The Elite skill can vary from Zealous Benediction, Blessed Light, Divert Hexes, Shield of Regeneration (compounded with Glyph of Lesser Energy), etc, etc.
whobitz
Boon prots were nerfed to death.
I run this:
[card]Shield of Regeneration[/card][card]Shield of Absorption[/card][card]Gift of Health[/card][card]Dismiss Condition[/card][card]Reversal of Fortune[/card][card]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/card][card]Aegis[/card][card]Resurrection Chant[/card]
13 prot
11 heal
11 divine
You can switch out stuff based on where you are. Skills like [wiki]Holy Veil[/wiki] and [wiki]Protective Spirit[/wiki] fit in perfectly. The elite is optional as well and should be changed to be more effective where you need it.
Or you can try http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:M...ous_PvE_Healer or any of the various similar builds.
People do use pure prots, but most people, especially in PvP, use [wiki]Gift of Health[/wiki] because of it's uber leetness, creating the hybrid monk.
I run this:
[card]Shield of Regeneration[/card][card]Shield of Absorption[/card][card]Gift of Health[/card][card]Dismiss Condition[/card][card]Reversal of Fortune[/card][card]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/card][card]Aegis[/card][card]Resurrection Chant[/card]
13 prot
11 heal
11 divine
You can switch out stuff based on where you are. Skills like [wiki]Holy Veil[/wiki] and [wiki]Protective Spirit[/wiki] fit in perfectly. The elite is optional as well and should be changed to be more effective where you need it.
Or you can try http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:M...ous_PvE_Healer or any of the various similar builds.
People do use pure prots, but most people, especially in PvP, use [wiki]Gift of Health[/wiki] because of it's uber leetness, creating the hybrid monk.
LightningHell
Commenting on the above, Aegis can be switched out. Perma Aegis chain is hot though, even in pve.
Legendary Shiz
I just 4 maned FoW as a zb prot, this build is a purty nice PvP build and it seems to work in PvE just fine.
zb, gift, rof, dismiss conditions, shielding hands, spirit bond, veill, glyph of lesser energy
zb, gift, rof, dismiss conditions, shielding hands, spirit bond, veill, glyph of lesser energy
LightningHell
PvP builds usually work fine in PvE since they're optimized anyway. There are exceptions, but there are always exceptions...
XvArchonvX
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/Me for...uh...Channeling?
Hex Breaker can also be handy against Shadow Prison sins (that seem to be everywhere), but I still think that /W is still the best counter.
LightningHell
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Shield Bash is also a good anti-sin skill as well. Frenzied defense has become pretty popular for monks in some places, but why anyone would choose this beyond Disciplined or Shield Bash is beyond me.
Hex Breaker can also be handy against Shadow Prison sins (that seem to be everywhere), but I still think that /W is still the best counter. Shield Bash and Hex Breaker are good, but purely for PvP purposes.
Cebe
A build I've taken to quite liking in PvE is:
[skill]Shield of Regeneration[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Aegis[/skill][skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill][skill]Guardian[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill][skill]Blessed Aura[/skill][skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill] The Elite tends to change depending on the situation. In areas where there are lots of hexes like the god damn plants in Vabbi I take [wiki]Divert Hexes[/wiki], [wiki]Restore Condition[/wiki] sometimes gets a trip out, and less often [wiki]Life Sheath[/wiki]. I don't often use Zealous Benedition...to me it sounds nice but...there's just something about it I don't quite like. I did used to take [wiki]Signet of Devotion[/wiki] until I discovered Blessed Aura... My build is probably very inferior, or old, though I am new to protection also so any input would be appreciated. Also, if someone could explain what the point of [wiki]Shield of Absorption[/wiki] is all about I'd be very grateful. I don't get it...HOW is it good? dgb
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Also, if someone could explain what the point of [wiki]Shield of Absorption[/wiki] is all about I'd be very grateful. I don't get it...HOW is it good?
Everytime the thing with it on gets hit, it's absorb level goes up five.
So the first hit it absorbs 5, the second 10, the third 15 etc... In heavy focus environments it can end up basically making the target invulnerable. I've seen it be able to completely negate a lightning orb before in PVP during a melee train on someone. Essentially the first couple of hits are a bit meh, but beyond that it goes to ridiculous levels of damage reduction.
Cebe
Ahh, now that's pretty cool. The skill description, to me anyway, didn't make it that obvious. It just looked like it negates 5 damage each time they are hit, period...if you see what I mean. Thanks for the clarification
Nexium
aa ok nice ill try some of the tips,but i guess ill skip the boon prot since it seems pretty nerfed and most dosent seem to favor it,i allso got all 3Games Prophecis,Factions,Nightfall.
but how come when i join most teams there's almost no Prot monk at all is there some special reason for that do ppl just dont care about Prot and jusat think they can out heal spike dmg cause whehn i play i rather have Heal and prot monk then 2 pure healers maybe that's just me.
Age
Using BoonProtect in PvE will be fine in fact more than fine as you are providing a heal as well.The most common of all protection Monks is active even if the energy management isn't that great.Then there are certain places that require a Bonder or Barrier/Bonder.The only way to decide is to try what you like the most either active or passive.
Effigy
Boon Prot is usable in PvE, but there are better options since the nerfs. It's not a bad choice if you only have Prophecies or something like that.
Thom Bangalter
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Originally Posted by Nexium
Hello
ive looked thru some threads about Protection Monk and most builds i find are Boon prot,and something ellse that was Called Active Prot monk and didn't use the skill Divine Boon,What are the main diffrences which is most effective,is Boon prot still a good build for Pve? the point is what kind of protection monk builds are there for normal pve partyn? and how come there's so few pure protection monks around? so any tip's on Builds. The reason there are few prot builds for pve is because people are bad at the game. As far as 'pure' prot builds, it's because to go full prot limits your ability to make red bars go up. Your bar is heavily dependent on what your co-monk is running (unless you're solo monking like Shiz) but I'm a huge fan of LoD/dismiss/reversal of fortune/spirit bond/heal other/glyph of lesser energy/holy veil/shield of absorption. Big heals, efficient skills, awesome energy management, light hex and condi removal. If you want you can drop out LoD for Zealous benediction, divert hexes, or RC, and if you do that drop heal other for gift. You can also trade spirit bond for prot spirit.
JoeKnowMo
I'd be a little wary of ZB in pve unless you are the only monk/healer. Even self heals can put an ally over 50% HP resulting in no energy gain from your ZB.
Teh [prefession]-zorz
I personally run a ZB build, i find the usefulness of the free heal when energy is tight and since i run aegis and am not a mo/E its useful
Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by Effigy
Boon Prot is usable in PvE, but there are better options since the nerfs. It's not a bad choice if you only have Prophecies or something like that.
Boon prot is only remotely useable with boon sig and a pile of other enchants, like channeling. It goes without saying that any kind of enchantment stripping will leave you totally ineffective.
Xeones The Great
just wondering, what would be the best PvE prot elite if im running this kind of bar:
GoLE RoF Prot spirit dismiss rebirth maybe SoR, GoH, blessed aura as a hybrid? or maybe aegis, ZB, and guardian as pure prot? soo? or ZB
Omega Complex
Well, I would ask that you stop hyper abbreviating everything. For those of us whose brain doesn't think that way it makes helping you a bit more difficult. (When us "old school" monks try to figure out these new spella-majigs it confuses us. RoF and WoH are easy, but not quite sure what things like GoLE are)
Use full words, or even those nifty little spell icons.
olly123
GoLe = Glyph of lesser energy
PS = protective spirirt dissmiss = dissmiss condition SoR, sheald of regain GoH = gift of health zb = zelots benadiction hope it helps :P
Xeones The Great
rofl, sorry old school guys... next time ill write in real words.
moko
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Originally Posted by olly123
SoR, sheald of regain
zb = zelots benadiction hope it helps :P oO [skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill][skill]Shield of Regeneration[/skill]
Omega Complex
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Originally Posted by olly123
GoLe = Glyph of lesser energy
PS = protective spirirt dissmiss = dissmiss condition SoR, sheald of regain GoH = gift of health zb = zelots benadiction hope it helps :P Much, thanks! (And I enjoy Shield of Regen, but if you're having Energy management problems Zealous Bene might not be a bad choice either. Lemme do some digging and i'll get back to ya)
olly123
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Originally Posted by Mokone
oO
[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill][skill]Shield of Regeneration[/skill] yah excuse my really bad spelling :P its what happens when my spell check doesnt reconise the words, and i cant b bothered to load up wiki
Omega Complex
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Originally Posted by Mokone
oO
[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill][skill]Shield of Regeneration[/skill] Ok, I gotta be ignorant and ask. Where/How do you get those nifty things to get on the forums, with all the popup tool tip goodness?
Stormlord Alex
{skill}Insert Skill Name Here - properly capitalized and all{/skill}
'cept with square brackets [] instead o' the squiggly ones. {}
Stormlord Alex
huh? My edit wasn't showing up...
{skill}Insert Skill Name Here - properly capitalized and all{/skill} 'cept with square brackets [] instead o' the squiggly ones. {} There! Weird... so... {skil}Word of Healing{/skill} --> [skill]word of Healing[/skill]
Omega Complex
[skill]Word of Healing[/skill]
This is a test again! Hooray!! (Thanks much Alex, I owe you many shiny internets!)
Stormlord Alex
Ooooh... shiny!
around
Why don't more people run Shield of Deflection as their prot elite? I much prefer it over Shield of Regeneration.
Omega Complex
[skill]Balthazar's Spirit[/skill][skill]Life Bond[/skill][skill]Life Barrier[/skill][skill]Blessed Signet[/skill][skill]Mantra of Inscriptions[/skill][skill]Inspired Hex[/skill][skill]Mend Condition[/skill][skill]Rebirth[/skill]
Ok, this is the bar I ran in FoW the last time the Americas had favor. (Yes I know Rebirth uses all your energy but we'll get to that later). This is your typical barrier/bonder build and I tend to love using it. For one, it makes me feel all uber when nobody is dying. And typically with prot at 16(and chancing it at 17 with the right weapons) you end up with 50% damage reduction from one, and a 45 point damage reduction with the other. This leads to lots of nice red zeroes popping up on you, while your energy sky rockets. Upon reading through some of the new skills there are a number that I think would work beautifully in this build were I to actually have them.. Optional skills (The last 3 are the only optional slots for this build). [skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill] [skill]Power Drain[/skill] (if you're able to watch the enemy as well as your people) [skill]Watchful Healing[/skill] - if things are getting stripped [skill]Divine Healing[/skill] - If your energy is plentiful and people are still hurting, this one is a good pop heal (though I believe there are some others that would work as well) Well, thats enough rambling from me. Cheers! Trylo
i kinda am in love with it...
[skill]Shield of Deflection[/skill]... its duration is what throws people off, but you can easily form a good build around it: [skill]Shield of Deflection[/skill][skill]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill]Reversal Of Fortune[/skill][skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill]OR[skill]Gift of Health[/skill][skill]Signet of Devotion[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Holy Veil[/skill][skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill] [skill]Blessed Aura[/skill] is also tempting to throw in there, but i wouldnt count on maintaining an enchant for too long basically... its kinda anti-melee oriented IMO... it is very nice though, dont pass it up
olly123
[skill]Word of Healing[/skill]
just testing
Coloneh
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Why don't more people run Shield of Deflection as their prot elite? I much prefer it over Shield of Regeneration.
because they have guardian which costs 5 energy and isnt elite. the armor bonus might sound nice, but it isnt really used with a 75%chance to block. and the armor and regen from shield of regen along with a spike heal,can save a teammate from almost anything.
LightningHell
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Why don't more people run Shield of Deflection as their prot elite? I much prefer it over Shield of Regeneration.
It's good and all, but there's no real reason to run it instead of Guardian and/or Aegis when those two skills are present. ZB is too good, as well.
To your question of being "hybrid" or "full prot", why not go GoH + ZB?
some guy
For a prot monk, this is what I run, you can mod it to your own taste.
[skill]Zealous Benediction[/skill] [skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill] [skill]Gift of Health[/skill] [skill]Protective Spirit[/skill] [skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill] [skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill] [skill]Aegis[/skill] [skill]Rebirth[/skill] ZB is gaining popularity.
Age
You don't need to be /E or /Mes for Protect there are others as well
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