ok, heres the deal. im making a healers boon monk, but im confused in skill choice.
needed attributes- 16 healin, 13 divine.
needed skills- HB (duh), ethereal light, GolE, Heal Party, Restore Life.
missing 3 skills, but have 7 in mind. Orison of Healing for a 140+ heal with HB. Dwayna's Kiss when ally is stacked with enchants/hexes. Dismiss Condition for condition removal. Healing Touch for a ginormous self-heal. Vigorous Spirit would work with Dwayna's Kiss, and relieve me of healing casters/attackers. Words of Comfort for huge heal to allies suffering from conditions. Infuse Health for a 540hp (ZOMG) spike-negating heal.
ANY HELP?
P.S.-2nd thread, 1st had a typo, please delete, ty.
Healer's Boon Monk Help!
Xeones The Great
moko
Healers boon and infuse is lol.
Healers boon is turning your spells into mini infuses already.
try something like;
Healers Boon, Heal Other, Ethereal, Heal Party, Gole, Dismiss, Restore Life (although i'd take a res out if i was you), Holy Veil/Signet of Rej./Healing Touch
Healers boon is turning your spells into mini infuses already.
try something like;
Healers Boon, Heal Other, Ethereal, Heal Party, Gole, Dismiss, Restore Life (although i'd take a res out if i was you), Holy Veil/Signet of Rej./Healing Touch
ZenRgy
Res Chant > Restore Life.
You shouldn't need infuse, health other is basically as fast, and I'm not sure why you'd run healer's boon, the only benefit it has is 120 point heal parties. I'd rather run LoD.
You shouldn't need infuse, health other is basically as fast, and I'm not sure why you'd run healer's boon, the only benefit it has is 120 point heal parties. I'd rather run LoD.
Age
This might interest you Healers BoonDo a little searching.
olly123
if u where to ru na hb build ( id prefer LoD, but its up 2 u tbh) id take
HB, Heal other,healing touch,kiss,Orsiron, Holy Veil, Heal party GolE, Res
tho id prefer LoD for anti pressuer, an di have 2 hea dpeices so i coudl cast HB with sup divine and change for a sup healing
HB, Heal other,healing touch,kiss,Orsiron, Holy Veil, Heal party GolE, Res
tho id prefer LoD for anti pressuer, an di have 2 hea dpeices so i coudl cast HB with sup divine and change for a sup healing
Effigy
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Originally Posted by ZenRgy
Res Chant > Restore Life.
You shouldn't need infuse, health other is basically as fast, and I'm not sure why you'd run healer's boon, the only benefit it has is 120 point heal parties. I'd rather run LoD. Res Chant is tempting with HBoon, but I stick to Rebirth or no res. Taking four seconds off from healing can be dangerous, and Res Chant isn't something you can just cancel midcast like Sig of Devotion.
The beefy HPs with HBoon are definitely nice, but that's not the only think it has going. All your heals are faster and better with this elite. The problem with HBoon isn't the skill itself, but that lack of good Healing Prayers spells in general. LoD is more flexible, I agree, but this also has a lot of potential.
You shouldn't need infuse, health other is basically as fast, and I'm not sure why you'd run healer's boon, the only benefit it has is 120 point heal parties. I'd rather run LoD. Res Chant is tempting with HBoon, but I stick to Rebirth or no res. Taking four seconds off from healing can be dangerous, and Res Chant isn't something you can just cancel midcast like Sig of Devotion.
The beefy HPs with HBoon are definitely nice, but that's not the only think it has going. All your heals are faster and better with this elite. The problem with HBoon isn't the skill itself, but that lack of good Healing Prayers spells in general. LoD is more flexible, I agree, but this also has a lot of potential.
Mr Bartel
omg, no HB it cost 10 mana, then it is stripped by a mesmer and the guy wanted to heal takes 100+dmg and u loose 10 mana ....
Ajantis
Yeah! Quit using any enchants whatsoever.. Mesmers strip them!!1
Age
Healers Boon works wonders with Dwayna's Kiss and some not so bad healing spells as well as heal party.I would suggest you read my thread for build ideas.
Xeones The Great
lol some major HB hate here. Healer's Boon is awesome unless stripped, which in PvE isnt so common. and LoD can be covered with heal party+GoLE, so it isnt really worth that elite skill slot. WoH, every1 says it sucks. Glimmer, its too weak. spammable, but weak. so heal elites are garbage eh?
@olly123: u have 9 skills =P
@HB haters: HB is an amazing elite. if it gets stripped, you can recast it fairly quickly as it has 10 sec recharge. even if u cant recast it, you still have dwaynas kiss, ethereal and bla bla bl to heal while its recharging.
what ive conjured up from ppl who *actually gave me constructive criticism* is this:
Mo/E
Healing Prayers-12,3,1
Divine Favor-12,1
Protection Prayers-3
[skill]Healer's Boon[/skill]
[skill]Ethereal Light[/skill]
[skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill]
[skill]Heal Other[/skill] OR [skill]Jamei's Gaze[/skill]
[skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill]
[skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill]
[skill]Heal Party[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]
1 - The elite. You all know what it does. 10 energy. 0.25 second cast. 10 second recharge.
2 - 5 energy. 0.5 second cast. 200hp heal. 5 second recharge.
3 - 5 energy. 0.5 second cast. 137hp heal + 37/enchantement or hex. 3 second recharge.
4 - 10 energy. 0.375 second cast. 327hp heal. 3 second recharge.
5 - 5 energy. 0.75 second cast. Removes one condition from ally. 3 second recharge.
6 - 5 energy. 1 second cast. Next two spells cost 15 less energy. 30 second recharge.
7 - 15 energy. 1 second cast. Heal entire party for 126. 2 second recharge.
8 - 10 energy. 3 second cast. Resurrect ally with your health and 37% energy. 15 second recharge.
Staff of the Forgotten -
+15 energy
+5 energy while health is above 50%
Health + 30
Halves skill recharge of all spells (Chance: 20%)
Runes -
Superior Healing Prayers
Minor Divine Favor
Superior Vigor
Vitae x2
Armor Insignia -
Survivor on all pieces (+40 health)
Health - 545
Energy - 50>>>
I'm pretty sure this is my final build unless anyone can find any fatal mistakes in it. Please, constructive criticism and not whining about Healer's Boon supposed-suckiness. Thanks.
@olly123: u have 9 skills =P
@HB haters: HB is an amazing elite. if it gets stripped, you can recast it fairly quickly as it has 10 sec recharge. even if u cant recast it, you still have dwaynas kiss, ethereal and bla bla bl to heal while its recharging.
what ive conjured up from ppl who *actually gave me constructive criticism* is this:
Mo/E
Healing Prayers-12,3,1
Divine Favor-12,1
Protection Prayers-3
[skill]Healer's Boon[/skill]
[skill]Ethereal Light[/skill]
[skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill]
[skill]Heal Other[/skill] OR [skill]Jamei's Gaze[/skill]
[skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill]
[skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill]
[skill]Heal Party[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]
1 - The elite. You all know what it does. 10 energy. 0.25 second cast. 10 second recharge.
2 - 5 energy. 0.5 second cast. 200hp heal. 5 second recharge.
3 - 5 energy. 0.5 second cast. 137hp heal + 37/enchantement or hex. 3 second recharge.
4 - 10 energy. 0.375 second cast. 327hp heal. 3 second recharge.
5 - 5 energy. 0.75 second cast. Removes one condition from ally. 3 second recharge.
6 - 5 energy. 1 second cast. Next two spells cost 15 less energy. 30 second recharge.
7 - 15 energy. 1 second cast. Heal entire party for 126. 2 second recharge.
8 - 10 energy. 3 second cast. Resurrect ally with your health and 37% energy. 15 second recharge.
Staff of the Forgotten -
+15 energy
+5 energy while health is above 50%
Health + 30
Halves skill recharge of all spells (Chance: 20%)
Runes -
Superior Healing Prayers
Minor Divine Favor
Superior Vigor
Vitae x2
Armor Insignia -
Survivor on all pieces (+40 health)
Health - 545
Energy - 50>>>
I'm pretty sure this is my final build unless anyone can find any fatal mistakes in it. Please, constructive criticism and not whining about Healer's Boon supposed-suckiness. Thanks.
moko
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Originally Posted by Mr Bartel
omg, no HB it cost 10 mana, then it is stripped by a mesmer and the guy wanted to heal takes 100+dmg and u loose 10 mana ....
this is the worst crap ive seen in a while. :I
Xeones The Great
ty mokone lolz. but just wondering, wouldnt orison be better than heal other in this situation as my main spammy heal? cuz ethereal has 5 sec recharge, and that seems like too much time to wait. so waddya think? orison > heal other? or should i keep the above build w/ ethereal as my main heal?
Effigy
I don't like Orison much. Heal Other isn't meant to be spammed; it's more of an emergency heal when someone is going down fast. In all honesty, you could just drop Res Chant and take Sig of Devotion for noncritical heals to save yourself some energy, but it may not be necessary if you're using GoLE to the full potential (i.e. 2 HPs, HP+Other, etc). Res Chant is too risky when the team is relying on you for heals. So I'd recommend either Rebirth or Sig of Devotion.
Also, why is everyone saying HBoon is 10e? Granted I haven't used it in a little while, but in the past it's always been 5e, and that's what GuildWiki has it listed as right now.
Also, why is everyone saying HBoon is 10e? Granted I haven't used it in a little while, but in the past it's always been 5e, and that's what GuildWiki has it listed as right now.
Xeones The Great
im not a fan of sig of devotion as it has no divine favor gain, and doesnt heal for much. but effigy, what im saying is that what will be my main heal?!?!?! i can count on ethereal light cuz it has a 5 second recharge. say 2 ppl took hits for 150hp. i would have to use ethereal and wait 5 sec then ethereal again. im not wasting heal other on 150hp, and dwaynas kiss would be weak w/o hexes. i need a spammable, cheap, main heal. thats the only reason why orison was made. everyone who hates the skill doesnt see it in this manner. its the only full-range skill with a decent heal (151 with HB on) and 2 seconds of recharge.
about rez chant. rezzing midbattle isnt too bad. its only 3 seconds! 3!!!!! if a person dies in 3 seconds, wtf?!?!? if he takes serious damage, thats what HB is for. 0.38 second heal other. heal party w/o HB is a 2 sec cast, yet monks still bring it. add 1 second on to that to rez a person to maximum health, and u have a good deal. w/o HB, of course, rezzing midbattle is stupid. but with HB, its much less of a risk. ok, here we go. these are the staple skills i need.
HB
Kiss
Ethereal
GoLE
Dismiss
HParty
Rez Chant
1 skill missing. options: touch, orison, heal other.
*NOTE: CHOOSE ONE, DO NOT CRITICIZE MY BUILD.*
touch - 179 hp self heal
orison - spammable 151 hp heal.
heal other - 340hp massive-spike-heal. (10 energy, not spammable)
basically, it all comes down to this: with my staple skills already, can i count on ethereal to be my main heal, or do i need something like orison?
about rez chant. rezzing midbattle isnt too bad. its only 3 seconds! 3!!!!! if a person dies in 3 seconds, wtf?!?!? if he takes serious damage, thats what HB is for. 0.38 second heal other. heal party w/o HB is a 2 sec cast, yet monks still bring it. add 1 second on to that to rez a person to maximum health, and u have a good deal. w/o HB, of course, rezzing midbattle is stupid. but with HB, its much less of a risk. ok, here we go. these are the staple skills i need.
HB
Kiss
Ethereal
GoLE
Dismiss
HParty
Rez Chant
1 skill missing. options: touch, orison, heal other.
*NOTE: CHOOSE ONE, DO NOT CRITICIZE MY BUILD.*
touch - 179 hp self heal
orison - spammable 151 hp heal.
heal other - 340hp massive-spike-heal. (10 energy, not spammable)
basically, it all comes down to this: with my staple skills already, can i count on ethereal to be my main heal, or do i need something like orison?
Xeones The Great
yeh its heal other, thx all. close thread plz.
Div
I think the key skills here are HB, GoLE, HP, Rez Chant. The other skills can include: Heal other, orison, dwayna's kiss, words of comfort, healing touch, dismiss condition, ethereal light.
Xeones The Great
thx 4 the obvious 
CLOSE THREAD
CLOSE THREAD
jesh
No, the key skill is Heal Party. The other one is Soul Reaping. Then you're on the path to a decent healing prayers character.
N/Mo
10+3+1 or 10+1+1 Soul Reaping
12 Healing Prayers
8 Protection Prayers
Heal Party
Healer's Boon {E}
Protective Spirit
=optional=
=optional=
=optional=
=optional=
Res
You can also switch Protection, (and therefore Protective Spirit), out for Blood and spam Order of Pain, or Curses for Mark of Pain if no one else has it.
SR is fine with a minor rune for more HP if needed, I think. 14 just looks pretty.
I find a 100 point Heal Party with Soul Reaping to best LoD in general PvE.
I've beaten Boreas Seabed with no interrupts or protection monks quite easily using this build.
Some favorites for the optional slots include Heal Area, Infuse Health, Ethereal Light, and possibly Signet of Lost Souls.
N/Mo
10+3+1 or 10+1+1 Soul Reaping
12 Healing Prayers
8 Protection Prayers
Heal Party
Healer's Boon {E}
Protective Spirit
=optional=
=optional=
=optional=
=optional=
Res
You can also switch Protection, (and therefore Protective Spirit), out for Blood and spam Order of Pain, or Curses for Mark of Pain if no one else has it.
SR is fine with a minor rune for more HP if needed, I think. 14 just looks pretty.
I find a 100 point Heal Party with Soul Reaping to best LoD in general PvE.
I've beaten Boreas Seabed with no interrupts or protection monks quite easily using this build.
Some favorites for the optional slots include Heal Area, Infuse Health, Ethereal Light, and possibly Signet of Lost Souls.
Xeones The Great
whoa there, a bit off-class, huh?
I HAVE MY BUILD, AND I LIKE IT, PLEASE CLOSE THREAD
I HAVE MY BUILD, AND I LIKE IT, PLEASE CLOSE THREAD
Xeones The Great
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Xalkie
keep thread open a little while longer.....I want to see if his head explodes.
moko
lets make healers boon rangers and hes gonna suicide. oO
olly123
Quote:
Originally Posted by jesh
No, the key skill is Heal Party. The other one is Soul Reaping. Then you're on the path to a decent healing prayers character.
N/Mo
10+3+1 or 10+1+1 Soul Reaping
12 Healing Prayers
8 Protection Prayers
Heal Party
Healer's Boon {E}
Protective Spirit
=optional=
=optional=
=optional=
=optional=
Res
You can also switch Protection, (and therefore Protective Spirit), out for Blood and spam Order of Pain, or Curses for Mark of Pain if no one else has it.
SR is fine with a minor rune for more HP if needed, I think. 14 just looks pretty.
I find a 100 point Heal Party with Soul Reaping to best LoD in general PvE.
I've beaten Boreas Seabed with no interrupts or protection monks quite easily using this build.
Some favorites for the optional slots include Heal Area, Infuse Health, Ethereal Light, and possibly Signet of Lost Souls. / lets go HB mesmer or even an HB warrior, were not all in spirt spamming or Jagged bones Ha groups here, this is a monk forum hence the talk about playing monk moves on a monk :P
N/Mo
10+3+1 or 10+1+1 Soul Reaping
12 Healing Prayers
8 Protection Prayers
Heal Party
Healer's Boon {E}
Protective Spirit
=optional=
=optional=
=optional=
=optional=
Res
You can also switch Protection, (and therefore Protective Spirit), out for Blood and spam Order of Pain, or Curses for Mark of Pain if no one else has it.
SR is fine with a minor rune for more HP if needed, I think. 14 just looks pretty.
I find a 100 point Heal Party with Soul Reaping to best LoD in general PvE.
I've beaten Boreas Seabed with no interrupts or protection monks quite easily using this build.
Some favorites for the optional slots include Heal Area, Infuse Health, Ethereal Light, and possibly Signet of Lost Souls. / lets go HB mesmer or even an HB warrior, were not all in spirt spamming or Jagged bones Ha groups here, this is a monk forum hence the talk about playing monk moves on a monk :P
Ensign
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeones The Great
Quote: Originally Posted by Xeones The Great thats the only reason why orison was made. everyone who hates the skill doesnt see it in this manner. No, we're well aware of what people who love Orison want to do with it. What you don't seem to grasp is that what you want to do with Orison is *bad*.
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Originally Posted by Xeones The Great
basically, it all comes down to this: with my staple skills already, can i count on ethereal to be my main heal, or do i need something like orison?
Your main heal on a Healer's Boon bar is Heal Party. The rest of your casts are used to set up fat Heal Parties.
The proper response to two people taking 150 damage with a Healer's Boon bar, BTW, is to use Signet of Devotion on one of them. You don't touch either of them with energy heals until they dip down further. Peace, -CxE
Xeones The Great
thanks ensign. im not replying anymore cuz this thread is getting tooo big. delete it please.
ender6
^^^LOL
Translation: This thread is not going the way I thought it would be... The thread has exemplifed one thing at least, it is not the skills that make the monk but rather how the monk uses thoses skills.
Age
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeones The Great
thanks ensign. im not replying anymore cuz this thread is getting tooo big. delete it please.
The question I would ask is how long have you been playing a Monk for.there are some who have been playing it longer than you I know I have since beta in the Halls of Heros.That is were I learned it from but when it does come to Orisons some have their own opinion on it.I will admit that i still use it being a free skill and all but I have gotten some better ones with earlier boon the skill I use the most of is Kiss or Touch on myself.It is hard to adjust to a new skill bar after fine tuning you current one and being so use to it like clock work.
You just have to get use to breaking in a new skill bar.You could read my thread on HB but I like to use Rof more so. |
