Dual A/me farm possibly infinite Shadow Form, no need for SoH

Captain Jager

Captain Jager

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ok sorry I don't have a real build yet or anything but here's the idea.

Using 2 A/me one brings Shadow form and mimicry; the other Assassin's promise and mimicry.
Assassin's promise does recharge Shadow form and mimicry. So posssibly if done right, you will have infinite shadow form up and attacks. Not near experienced enough to really try it myself, but it does work. Plus no need for SoH or Dash. You will need to kill the 2nd or 3rd enemy when mimicry end to recharge it. Still workin out all the kinks to it, need some oppinions and ideas.

The rest is up to you for now. Will try to update it later.

The Tombs
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10098485

FoW
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10101040&referrerid=&highlight=A% 2Fme+FoW+solo

Thanks to blades of xylem for helpin test it some.

The.D0pefish

The.D0pefish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2007

Germany

Matchup Close [yPrn]

Me/

i don't think that the promise will recharge the arcane echo, when it's replaced

Captain Jager

Captain Jager

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2007

it does i have already tested it. You just need to kill the 1st enemy before it ends then kill the 2nd one and mimicry should be recharging and assassins promise will recharge it.

Mimicry seems to copy the elite skill last used though so it could take alot of practice to perfect it possibly.

Rainman

Rainman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

none

P/

im blades of xylem!! woot!

btw for some reason when i duo with u i always get shadwo form lol and i need promise :P

P.S. im better than jager anyday lol

speedy21589

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

I think mimicry copies the leftmost (lowest numbered) elite skill if the target happens to have more than one.

killercroc

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2007

it recharges disabled skills??

hmm i'll test this out too.

u might need to time it well to since if mimicry ends.... it takes 60 secs to recharge well i guess u could run away if u miess up
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ryanryanryan0310

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

ahmmmm, aren't there TWO elites there....?

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanryanryan0310
ahmmmm, aren't there TWO elites there....? very astute, reading comprehension FTW.

good idea but, mimicry does in fact always copy the first elite on a skillbar with 2 elites. try it outside of great temple.

ACreator

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

u would still need the atributes very spread to shadow, deadly and something to kill,

Hengist Meldanash

Hengist Meldanash

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

UNI

W/E

Hi there,

A dual A/Me permanent shadow form build already exists, just need 4 skills instead of 3...and some good synchro to make it work.

Wildi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

PvE is the Metagame

what about D/A with 16 mysticism + enchantments last longer 20% weapon

use extend enchantments + deadly paradox + shadow form = you get 25 sec shadow form and it recharges after 30 sec

tknorris

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Kaizen Order [Kaiz]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildi
what about D/A with 16 mysticism + enchantments last longer 20% weapon

use extend enchantments + deadly paradox + shadow form = you get 25 sec shadow form and it recharges after 30 sec You don't need all that to get a 25 second SF. A sin primary + 20% enchant is already 25 seconds long.

tknorris

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Kaizen Order [Kaiz]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildi
what about D/A with 16 mysticism + enchantments last longer 20% weapon

use extend enchantments + deadly paradox + shadow form = you get 25 sec shadow form and it recharges after 30 sec You don't need all that to get a 25 second SF. A sin primary (16 shadow) + 20% enchant is already 25 seconds long.

tknorris

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Kaizen Order [Kaiz]

N/Mo

Wouldn't this work:

A/R: Deadly Paradox, Arcane Mimicry, Shadow Form, Serpents Quickness
X/Mesmer: Echo, ...

Chain would be:
SQ->Mimicry->Echo->DP->(Real SF)->25 Seconds->(Echoed SF)->25 Seconds->Start Over

I haven't tried it in game, so that may not work...Just a thought

Another thought might be to go:

A/E: Deadly Paradox, Arcane Mimicry, Shadow Form, Sliver Armor
R/Me: Echo, Quickened Zephyr

If that works, that would be nice.

Milan-V

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Can't Touch [This]

Quote:
Originally Posted by tknorris
Wouldn't this work:

A/R: Deadly Paradox, Arcane Mimicry, Shadow Form, Serpents Quickness
X/Mesmer: Echo, ...

Chain would be:
SQ->Mimicry->Echo->DP->(Real SF)->25 Seconds->(Echoed SF)->25 Seconds->Start Over

I haven't tried it in game, so that may not work...Just a thought

Another thought might be to go:

A/E: Deadly Paradox, Arcane Mimicry, Shadow Form, Sliver Armor
R/Me: Echo, Quickened Zephyr

If that works, that would be nice. ...

arcane mimicry is mesmer, so you can't use it without being A/Me

Hengist Meldanash

Hengist Meldanash

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

UNI

W/E

...maybe some precisions:

2 A/Me with Deadly Paradox, Arcane Echo, Arcane Mimicry, Shadow Form + 4 other skills

DP->AE->SF->SF(AEchoed)->SF->Arcane Mimicry SF of the other A/Me -> SF(AMimicried)
-> DP->AE->SF->and the loop goes on and on and on...

kielus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

MU-Tants [MU]

anyways, mimicry still copies the leftmost elite if you have more than one, so it's all about positioning skills on your friends' skillbar. btw it'd be cool for tanking, but still you need something to deal dmg with, and with a/me there's not much to kill with, untill you want to wand to death...

btw. tank tank... hmm... let me think... oh my! doa !! rawr!!! gloom a/me as tank w00t :P but that's without ward vs foes and you loose 1 ele or monk... uhh... still it's good basis to work on. anyways, you could drop bonder as you don't get hit ;S

ACreator

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hengist Meldanash
Hi there,

A dual A/Me permanent shadow form build already exists, just need 4 skills instead of 3...and some good synchro to make it work. can u plz post it?

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another thing for those who dont know, skill recharge is capped to 50%

ACreator

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hengist Meldanash
Hi there,

A dual A/Me permanent shadow form build already exists, just need 4 skills instead of 3...and some good synchro to make it work. can u plz post it?

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another thing for those who dont know, skill recharge is capped to 50%

no damage tank

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Inside Your Head [Psy]

W/

how about an A/R with a ranger to duo with you, maybe with EoE or other stuff on the ranger.

A/R:
Shadow Form
Serpents Quickness
Attack Skills

R/X:
Quickening Zephyr
Serpents Quickness
EoE

serpents is there to keep up quickening zephyr

it should work, but not tested, i will surely make a sin soon though!

Hengist Meldanash

Hengist Meldanash

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

UNI

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by ACreator
can u plz post it?
...a double post for this...and by someone not reading the full thread, which is not even 1 page, I hang up on this topic...

Heng

ACreator

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

soz about that.. didnt even noticed that double post xD

My-way Ftw

My-way Ftw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2007

Port Sledge *shivers*

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE] // SMS Alliance :)

W/

I think you are forgetting what we really want to see.

A SOLO ssin that keeps SF up at all times

Hengist Meldanash

Hengist Meldanash

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

UNI

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by My-way Ftw
I think you are forgetting what we really want to see.

A SOLO ssin that keeps SF up at all times
...maybe I have misread the thread topic...let me see once again...

*read* ¨Dual A/me farm possibly infinite Shadow Form, no need for SoH¨

...well, I really think that I am losing my time in this thread...

Heng.