PC Gamer May 2007 Information - "Guild Wars Reborn"

Know what, your right. GW2 will just be amazing and no one is complaining whatsoever. Guildwars is Reborn, except the baby has downs. Your also only 13 hours pregnant.

Ah yes, i remember that very inflamitary interview... As I recall it had Gaile and the others very hot under the collar when people asked questions...

My point however, was that it was never mentioned in any original press release, or any press release from the company as part of the business model, nor did anyone but jeff Strain mention it... So, who screwed up and who lied? IMHO as both a player and someone whos trying to cover this clusterf**k froma media point of view, its jeff strain who either lied, or said something the community wanted to hear to bolster sales and opinion...

ANet onviously are sticking with it for the long haul, as they are adding elements to fuse the two games together... hell, the more you guys try and piss on it, the more stoked I'm actually getting about GWEN and GW2

By "ppl" I think you're talking about the minority. I think most people will continue to play GW, regardless of the inevitability.

All that matters is that you had fun playing the game, after all, that's what a game is all about, and as well as that, we've been told that our achievements will go into this "Hall Of Monuments" anyway, so it's not like they'll be forgotten.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like the fact my character can't go to GW2 either, but at least what he has accomplished will.

I dun't really see what u mean by "garbage"

The game is still Guild wars... The only thing is that Anet has decided to go to the next level because the current Guild war is actually becoming old

The game itself is still going to be guild wars...

As for those crying and whining that the level cap is gonna make GW becomes a WoW clone, they are just jumping the gun and being short-sighted.

It is was too early to start saying that GW is doom. From the developpers that have managed to created a unique genre in MMO, i think they know better what to do ...and am not surprised that when GW2 comes out, those who are saying that GW is "doomed" will be ones of the 1st to buy the game within the 1st week...

From the info from the Op, i can only think that Anet has finally decided to divide the game at last! Seperate the PvE and PVP community is for the best! All the usual whining on Guru betweeen PvE and PvP ppl will finally be put at rest

I am sure Anet knows the importance of balance in PVP and that they know full well what they are doing... i am thinking that they are gonna make the pvp limited to 20 and unlimited level cap in Pve...and so when u take ur pve char to pvp, he goes back to level20 limit for balance issues... or even PvE char not allowed in pvp/gvg...

As for the partly instanced map, i'm guessing the missions are still gonna be instanced and that once upon a time, a big boss will pop up and that the community will have to fight them... fight the mad king maybe for halloween event

and i dun't really see the point of taking ur char from GW1 to GW2... it will cause more bad than good IMO...

anyway, i am very enthusiastic about the new GW

The game is gonna get better with GW 2 I beleive, i'm just worying about keeping peoples intrest for 2 years. I have my guild and that's enough for me but as for most itchy gamers who knows.

What kind of argument is this, 'too bad so sad'? If ANet had this kind of ethos they would be lacking a fanbase of any sort. I love GW because of many of the things that make it unique and different to other MMOs, and I would like to continue playing a game like it. From what I've seen thus far, there is little continuation of the things that made GW attractive in the first place, and a big move towards things offered in any other MMO. Loyalty to ANet is not enough to make me purchase a new game from them.

I realise it's a different game. But I'm not feeling at all reassured that it will appeal to the same playerbase. And if thats the case, why call it GW2 at all? Why not make it a whole new series? Its not that hard to invent some new history and lore.

I play GW to have fun, its annoying that i might lose my players progress, but maybe as i played final fantasy (1 to 10-2) and chrono cross more than any other game pre-GW, i'm not finding that bad. I've spent so many countless hours playing games and all there progress normally vanishes eventually.

At least with my GW characters i've had over a year of fun, and probably more. I thank Anet for creating such a great game.

for those who make it seem like your characters are the most important things to you, let me remind you no-matter what game you play your characters WILL eventually fade into nothingness and there is nothing you can do about it.

i suggest you move on, to another game or GW2 when it is released, but remember the good times GW has given you.

To others who say they are going to stop playing GW because they've "wasted" so much time and don't what to "waste" more time on there chars when they are going to be worthless. well what did you expect?? If you think you have wasted your time with GW then you probably have i've wasted lots of hours on GW but in exchange i've had alot of fun and good memories.

Maybe your characters will never die as long as the memory of then lives on.
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The 6 month plan. It is a plan,not a promise. Plans change. Guild Wars apparently can not be what everyone wants it to be. All kinds of features has been stuffed into this game and it has to be close to bursting. We all wanted an Auction House and this and that,ect ect. Well Anet has done a great job putting in as much as possible. But GW just was not designed to handle all of these things. With GW2 all of these things will be possible along with movement controls that people have been asking about. What people are not understanding here is that GW2 is a player feedback created game. Look at previous postings on what people would like to see in GW. You will see a pattern. GW is not able to handle what people want. It was never designed to do that. GW2 is an upgraded version of GW. Not a rehash of another MMO.

[puts soapbox away] No, no, this time I'm not going to talk about how negative and pessimistic people are on this forum...

I'm looking forward to it. ArenaNet is moving forward, not backwards. They are not fools.

By laying aside the GW1 code in favor of a reinvented game, they're able to create something different and unique. R&D takes time and energy. They wouldn't waste their resources on making a copy of any other game. Especially not WoW.

For me, there are but two real worries:

1. Character names! Someone else mentioned this earlier, but it's worth repeating. Can we please reserve our names for the new system? It seems straightforward, but it's probably an easy feature to overlook. Sentimental value, you know.
2. Skillbars! I don't know if GW2 will have a 10-slot skillbar or something. That may be good. But that'll be a lot of buttons. It might be tougher to do my awesome "Target Self-Reversal of Fortune-Target Ally-Gift of Health-Target Self" keyboard combo anymore, and I love it.

Other than that, great job ANet. I'm glad you decided not to beat a dead horse. Your devs need room to breathe, and a whole new version of the game is a perfect place to do it. Kudos. Don't let us down!

And thanks to Guru for being THE PREMIERE FORUM for GW/2 info!

i will continue to play gw and i will buy both GWEN and GW2..... as long as there is no stupid "cartoon" like graphics that WoW has. i just cant w8 for a week after gw2 to come out so i can sit in observe mode watching all the stupid builds and rank 1million guilds winning hall's lol

it all seems very good I'm sooooo buying gw2 when it comes out. =D can't wait for arena-net to post new news about it.

and 1 more thing....theres no human characters? O___o;;; ._. wonder whats happened to the humans...^^;;

Um, I'm trying not to be negative here, really I am, but facts should still be stated.

People have to PAY to play Lineage 1. That means that as long as people are paying enough to support the game, the game will be supported.

GW is free, except for expansions. Do you honestly think they'll make an expansion that ends GW1 and ties it directly into GW2, and then continue to make more?

Do you think they'll make more GW1 expansions after GW2 is live?

So what happens to GW1 servers, with absolutely no income? Well, someone wisely said that money from GW2 success can fund it. What if GW2 bombs, and everyone stays in GW1?

Even if GW2 is a huge success, where do you think Anet's effort will be focussed?

Gaile has said that they will certainly continue supporting GW1. I'm sure they will, but "support" is a very vague word. I'd bet money that it won't mean, "continue to improve, balance, and expand".

I used to give them the benefit of the doubt, and believe her, but well, I remember this guy named Charlie Brown, and this girl named Lucy, and this football...

You want to continue playing Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2, while having the name and same lore and also some of the same game play. But they are also trying to make everyone happy by introducing new things that weren't in Guild Wars, and I think everyone is thinking too much into it. I don't think the high level cap will be a bad thing and I doubt there will be any needed grind.

Guild Wars is about non needed grind, there's tons of grind in the game, but you don't need to do that to get better. Guild Wars 2 will be like that I'm fairly sure. But with a better PvE this time around. Which will keep me a customer, because Guild Wars PvE gets lacking after a while.

Also Guild Wars' player base is diverse, and we really don't know where the majority lies right now, so we can't talk about how Guild Wars will end. Because I've talked about it some in game and seen people happy about it and seen people upset about it. It seems the same here.


Shmanka: It sounds like a great game to me so far, so I'm going to say how I feel about it. Be it early or not.

I really don't understand why everyone is so hot and bothered. I, for one, am really excited about GW's future. GW:EN is what I'm really focusing on for now. GW2 is incredibly far off and has a lot of design and gameplay hurdles and decisions yet to cross.

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If you don't want to play GW anymore, why are you still here... i.e., why aren't you off playing/doing something else? Last I checked, no one was forcing you to play GW -- there isn't even a monthly fee to make you feel obligated to play. And why is everything going to crap in 2 years? You do realize this is a game, right? Our characters are just for fun... they aren't real. Do you expect them to live on some server forever, always ready to play the same missions over and over again?

I pretty much gave up my social life for Diablo 1 and 2, but am I crying that my characters aren't around anymore, that I don't play those games anymore, or that I spent so much time virtually living in those games? No... it would be immature and unrealistic to do so. I prefer to fondly look back on the experiences I had and the people I met.

I look at it like I'll continue playing GW until I don't feel like it. I will certainly get GW:EN and I'll see where things are when GW2 comes around. Until then, I'll just keep on keeping on.

Wow.... Just wow..... I can't wait and I'm letting like everyone know lol,
I hate being 46 pages late.....

This has probably been mentioned but I really CBA reading 46 pages, isn't GW Eye of the North and GWEN when abbreiviated abit of a coincidence?

Wow! I am interested in GW2! Where can I get a copy of just issue 161 of pc gamer?

Am I 47 pages late?

What of all the efforts we have put into our characters? All the skill points we have farmed? Skills we have aquired? Titles we have attained? They expect us to forget about them and move on? Sure, they say that Gw1 will not be left behind, and they will continue to update it - but what good will the updates do when everyone will be off playing Gw2? <- that's what I think is garbage

I have put in many hours into guild wars over the last couple years, as have many of you I am sure. Some of you may not have a problem with leaving it all behind and moving on to greener pastures, but there are still some of us who are not comfortable with just giving it all up to start fresh.

and Lonesamurai, no I am not a mod. Just a contributor.

I am looking forward to seeing what ANET comes up with in GW2...just hope that GWEN has enough content and maybe a few last updates to keep interest in GW1 alive to tide us over to GW2. If not I'm sure I'll come back if GW2 looks like it will be as interesting as GW turned out to be.

Not being able to carry over characters is kind of a bummer but I don't see the time I have spent with those characters as "lost" or "wasted"...getting 2 or 3 years out of them seems pretty reasonable. I thought the point of the game was to play, not to plan on keeping my characters for the rest of my life. Plus I think it will be fun to create and develop new characters again.

I think the general player population will judge GW2 on what it has to offer.

Snoopy ftw

of course arena net are going to favor guild wars 2 over the original series of games. Simply because it new, why would they bother to continue improving balancing and expanding a game if their not going to get anything from it. The fact they stated the servers alone will remain online shows they are at least letting people play the original guild wars games.

If they start charging monthly (which I doubt) for the original its not going to be much just enough to keep the servers alive I would guess and the others will either continue along the original, quit and play guild wars 2 which doesn't have monthly fees. Or do something else completely.

Quite frankly why didn't you already expect arena net is going to improve an obsolete series of games. There's no point. They would step in if a big problem arose though they're not ogres

Ahahah! Amen to that.

By the way. Question.

What's with this whole "We have to wait two whole years" thing!?

Eye of the North should be coming out around Christmas 2007. 2007 is, um... this year.

Guild Wars 2 should be starting open betas in 2008.

So... so you've got Christmas... and then like a week after Christmas is 2008... and then a few months later, I'd expect at least some word on the open beta, if not the open beta itself.

One year. Not two. One. Less than one, if your glasses are half full.