GW2 Discussion forum?
FoxBat
The threads are multiplying like rabbits, have very little to do with GW1 and full of much baseless speculation for a very distant game. Could we think of coralling these posts into a separate forum? I suppose you folks will do this eventually, anyway, but it's just starting to annoy me now.
Inde
I know, I'm considering options right now. I see what you are saying but I want to make sure that this just isn't going to be another suggestion forum. Besides the magazine information everything is speculation. Not to mention that everyone wants polls, petitions and more that normally fill the suggestion forum. I'm trying to decide on whether I see enough value for something that is 2 years out and even for GW:EN which is 5 months out still.
So... convince me.
So... convince me.
Not A Fifty Five
Well, it's not so much that GW2 threads are important at this point in time, for from it imo. It WILL act as a good dumping grounds tho.
FoxBat
Well, if you just moved all those to the off-topic forum, I'd be happy too, but that just seems like more work for you guys with such a horde beating down your doors.
To me this is more of cleaning out riverside than making a forum of value frankly. Kinda like how some places have a flaming and rants forum. I guess that is not what you want though.
I just think you guys will need to do something if you don't want Riverside to turn into a GW2 speculation forum, choking out any and all other topics in the frenzy. It's only going to get worse when online game sites start picking up their own previews too. There's plenty of fansites that come into existence 2 or even 3 years before a game comes out and are rabid with fan posts, so don't think it's too soon for everyone else!
To me this is more of cleaning out riverside than making a forum of value frankly. Kinda like how some places have a flaming and rants forum.
I guess that is not what you want though.I just think you guys will need to do something if you don't want Riverside to turn into a GW2 speculation forum, choking out any and all other topics in the frenzy. It's only going to get worse when online game sites start picking up their own previews too. There's plenty of fansites that come into existence 2 or even 3 years before a game comes out and are rabid with fan posts, so don't think it's too soon for everyone else!
Lasareth
I don't really see anything wrong with speculating based on given information (which we now have thanks to pc gamer). Riverside's a general discussion area, anyway, sort of the current events area of the site. It's fitting that EN and GW2 topics go there, for now at least.
Just imo though.
Just imo though.
Guardian of the Light
I think a better idea would be a GW2suggestion forum because we could discuss the hot topics like 1. The Level Cap 2. Races 3. Level Cap 4. World PvP 5.The max level 
Really this article might be a proposal and Anet is trying to see how we react now, so they have 2 years to decide what ideas to keep and what to change.
Really this article might be a proposal and Anet is trying to see how we react now, so they have 2 years to decide what ideas to keep and what to change.
Lasareth
Splitting off the sardelac for GW2 may be a good idea, yeah. Definitely worth putting some thought into.
Swampgirl Inez
I've thought about that since I mod Sardelac. I'd definitely like to see something that makes it easier to sort though it all. However, many of the suggestions there have been and could be discussed for both games. I really dread seeing two threads for everything. I think it will get to the point that whatever doesn't get implemented in GW1 will continue to be asked for in GW2.
Before the other campaigns were released, there were separate forums for them, which eventually were sorted out on release. I'm hoping there can be something like this.
If someone has a good idea for this, I'd appreciate it.
Before the other campaigns were released, there were separate forums for them, which eventually were sorted out on release. I'm hoping there can be something like this.
If someone has a good idea for this, I'd appreciate it.
lucifer_uk
Why not make the Sardelac area GW and GW2 related?
Just add in the faq that people have to specify at the front of the title/subject whether it is "GW1" or "GW2"
Just add in the faq that people have to specify at the front of the title/subject whether it is "GW1" or "GW2"
Feminist Terrorist
I suggest to just wait it out. Eventually the outrage and controversy will die down. If the GW2 threads get moved to their own section, that might spark more outrage, since some might start screaming about segregation. I really think waiting is the best policy.
lucifer_uk
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Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
I suggest to just wait it out. Eventually the outrage and controversy will die down. If the GW2 threads get moved to their own section, that might spark more outrage, since some might start screaming about segregation. I really think waiting is the best policy.
I really don't think people are going to suddenly stop over night talking about GW2, throwing their penny's worth in and coming up with features and ideas!
In fact I'll comfortably say it will carry on until the beta and beyond!
Segregation would be a good thing since i want to get back to GW matters not GW2.
In fact I'll comfortably say it will carry on until the beta and beyond!
Segregation would be a good thing since i want to get back to GW matters not GW2.
Feminist Terrorist
No, I don't think it'll happen over night either, but in time it will die down. I've seen similar furors in other forums, and they burn themselves out if allowed to. Anyway, it's just my $.02. 
Guardian of the Light
Well I can see the discussions dieing down but suggestions not really.
My Post Suggestions for the assassin thread before faction's beta was up for quite a while
My Post Suggestions for the assassin thread before faction's beta was up for quite a while
fenix
I think having all the GW:EN and GW2 information in 1 place (it's own discussion forum) would be very helpful, because there will be LOTS of threads being created between now and GW:EN, and even more on-going discussion about GW2. I think it would also be a good place for Dev's to answer questions (if they can), and people to discuss ideas they have regarding the new chapter, and new game. It could even be turned into a GW2 Beta section once that happens, rather than just GW:EN and GW2 discussion.
I think it'll just clear up Riverside Inn, and make sure that the threads there aren't entirely about GW:EN and GW2.
I think it'll just clear up Riverside Inn, and make sure that the threads there aren't entirely about GW:EN and GW2.
Rhedd
If the threads were to be moved, it'd be silly to lump GW:EN and GW2 in the same new place. They concern entirely different games.
GW:EN stuff should either have its own place or stay with GW1.
GW:EN stuff should either have its own place or stay with GW1.
Terra Xin
GW2 and GW1 have to be separated. Depending on the circumstances, I would rather suggest that GW2 have its own set of forums.
It may be best to start out small. Perhaps it would be better if GW2 recieved its own forum now, and then you can change your minds depending on how much information you recieve from Anet over that time. GW:EN can possibly be treated just like the other two campaigns, and have a forum opened up when Anet provide official news (so you're looking at 2 separate forums, but it may be necessary in order to keep the place tidy.)
Though GW2 won't be released for another two years, you can easily expect to see a consistent flow of threads related to that subject over that period of time. It will happen, regardless :S.
Maybe... until Anet have more information posted on their main website, would you have enough to start up two different forums? It may look crowded, but if the forums are kept tidy, then people's interest in those two games, as well as those who want to keep their interests in the current GW, will all be satisfied - at least, as far as forums go, hehe.
With this proposal, you will accomodate three things for each game:
1: a place to raise speculation and other speculation.
2: a place for beta-testers
3: a place for developers and Gaile to present information, thereby fueling speculation threads.
With regards to threads that suggest ideas for GW2, it'll be better to redirect those to Sardelac, because if there is a suggestion made that has the capability of fitting into both games, then it should just go into Sardelac. If the suggestion is massive, such as a complete overhaul on the construction of skill mechanics, for example, then that can be directed into the GW2 forum instead.
My opinion is mainly based on keeping the forums tidy, that's all. If you guys can handle it, you can just re-focus more moderation into Riverside Inn, and try to keep it as condensed as possible, in regards to GW2 and GW:EN.
It may be best to start out small. Perhaps it would be better if GW2 recieved its own forum now, and then you can change your minds depending on how much information you recieve from Anet over that time. GW:EN can possibly be treated just like the other two campaigns, and have a forum opened up when Anet provide official news (so you're looking at 2 separate forums, but it may be necessary in order to keep the place tidy.)
Though GW2 won't be released for another two years, you can easily expect to see a consistent flow of threads related to that subject over that period of time. It will happen, regardless :S.
Maybe... until Anet have more information posted on their main website, would you have enough to start up two different forums? It may look crowded, but if the forums are kept tidy, then people's interest in those two games, as well as those who want to keep their interests in the current GW, will all be satisfied - at least, as far as forums go, hehe.
With this proposal, you will accomodate three things for each game:
1: a place to raise speculation and other speculation.
2: a place for beta-testers
3: a place for developers and Gaile to present information, thereby fueling speculation threads.
With regards to threads that suggest ideas for GW2, it'll be better to redirect those to Sardelac, because if there is a suggestion made that has the capability of fitting into both games, then it should just go into Sardelac. If the suggestion is massive, such as a complete overhaul on the construction of skill mechanics, for example, then that can be directed into the GW2 forum instead.
My opinion is mainly based on keeping the forums tidy, that's all. If you guys can handle it, you can just re-focus more moderation into Riverside Inn, and try to keep it as condensed as possible, in regards to GW2 and GW:EN.
VitisVinifera
terra is spot on.
Personally, I have little use for any GW2 related threads, because I'm sure very little is set in stone, and things will change, and really it's over 2 years away.
GW2 threads are tough to filter out, and it's clutter right now, making normal discussion about things that do matter now tougher to engage in
edit: someone please take a look at this, because the wow vs gw2 threads and posts are starting to take over, and I have absolutely NO interest in sifting through those
Personally, I have little use for any GW2 related threads, because I'm sure very little is set in stone, and things will change, and really it's over 2 years away.
GW2 threads are tough to filter out, and it's clutter right now, making normal discussion about things that do matter now tougher to engage in
edit: someone please take a look at this, because the wow vs gw2 threads and posts are starting to take over, and I have absolutely NO interest in sifting through those
FoxBat
Well, it's obvious but, front page of Riverside is now literally almost all GW2 posts. There's a bunch seeping into gladiator's arena as well.
Go with Terra's proposal.
Go with Terra's proposal.
Swampgirl Inez
I'm changing my answer.
I've seen a more clear distinction in GW1 vs. GW2 suggestions now that more information is becoming available. I'd like to split them up.
I've seen a more clear distinction in GW1 vs. GW2 suggestions now that more information is becoming available. I'd like to split them up.
Feminist Terrorist
I would have to agree as well. Originally I was mainly concerned with the monster thread, but the discussion is spreading outwards and needs to be contained.
raven214
I think there definitely needs to be at least one new forum created for just GW2 discussion. Currently, it is overwhelming everything else, and while it may settle down in the next month or two as the PC Gamer article becomes more widespread, discussion will certainly continue as other previews come out and the beta nears.
Organizing specific forums for beta and suggestions can wait until the need is clear, but I think GW2 definitely needs its own space for general discussion (even if it only amounts to speculation at this point).
Organizing specific forums for beta and suggestions can wait until the need is clear, but I think GW2 definitely needs its own space for general discussion (even if it only amounts to speculation at this point).
Malice Black
Yes.
1 sub-section only for all GW2 related rubbish.
Why people need to create utter garbage/speculation on a game that isn't due for 2 years is beyond me.
I'd close on site but thats me. I'm mean like that.
1 sub-section only for all GW2 related rubbish.
Why people need to create utter garbage/speculation on a game that isn't due for 2 years is beyond me.
I'd close on site but thats me. I'm mean like that.
Terra Xin
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Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
I would have to agree as well. Originally I was mainly concerned with the monster thread, but the discussion is spreading outwards and needs to be contained.
As more information is speculated, and as more information is provided, threads will continue to spread out across all of the forums. Theres a pretty bad speculation thread about gods in GW2 under Druid's Overlook.
Hetep
I'd like to see a forum for this
Vahn Roi
Please, make one
Vilaptca
I'm going to have to agree with everyone else.
The GW2 topics are taking over Sardelac and Riverside, and they are all arguments and speculation. Obviously a new sub-forum for all this would be hell, but it would take so much of that junk out of the other parts of the forum.
I guess think of it more as cleaning up the rest of the forum, eventually when we start getting more info about GW2, we'll see that garbage sub-forum turn into something much better.
The GW2 topics are taking over Sardelac and Riverside, and they are all arguments and speculation. Obviously a new sub-forum for all this would be hell, but it would take so much of that junk out of the other parts of the forum.
I guess think of it more as cleaning up the rest of the forum, eventually when we start getting more info about GW2, we'll see that garbage sub-forum turn into something much better.
Terra Xin
This is what happens when a company announces something that's two friggin years from release *glares*. What's worse is that the threads can actually thrive for that entire duration. Oh well, I suppose we can all look forward to alot more people taking notice as time gets closer and closer.
Its the biggest tease from Anet, ever.
Its the biggest tease from Anet, ever.
Guardian of the Light
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Originally Posted by Terra Xin
This is what happens when a company announces something that's two friggin years from release *glares*. What's worse is that the threads can actually thrive for that entire duration. Oh well, I suppose we can all look forward to alot more people taking notice as time gets closer and closer.
Its the biggest tease from Anet, ever. Most likely Anet wants the players to get involved in the creation of GW2.
If they recieve a good idea they can have 2 years to try and put it into the game.
I personally have an idea I want to post but I'll wait till you guys split the suggestion side into 2.
Its the biggest tease from Anet, ever. Most likely Anet wants the players to get involved in the creation of GW2.
If they recieve a good idea they can have 2 years to try and put it into the game.
I personally have an idea I want to post but I'll wait till you guys split the suggestion side into 2.
Dfx Gladiator
Yes, there should definitly exist a sub-forum for GW:EN and GW2, as news are constant, almost everyday we have more news bout them.
Look at the GW official site, even it has a recent huge reference to the games.
Look at the GW official site, even it has a recent huge reference to the games.
tommarrow
I feel that GW:EN should be treated the same way the other chapters were before they were released.
GW2 should be put into its own section so GW1 can be saved from the onslaught of stupid questions and useless speculation that will just stir up emotions. I feel if all of the posts become nothing but negativity then they should just be deleted.
GW2 should be put into its own section so GW1 can be saved from the onslaught of stupid questions and useless speculation that will just stir up emotions. I feel if all of the posts become nothing but negativity then they should just be deleted.
Raaaaa
Its getting kinda ridiculous the amount of threads on them now. Considering how many threads there are of people asking about GW2 and its no-where even near beta stage yet there's obviously going to be no definate answers and its just clogging up the questions or riverside forums
arcanemacabre
/yes to a GW2 forum. Would be nice to clean up Riverside and Sardelac with the removal of all the GW2 stuff. The only problem right now is that most of the info we get about GW2 is alongside all the GW:EN stuff. For instance, where would we discuss the Hall of Monuments? Or the new races? Etc.
It might be a good idea to just wait till there is just more and more info out there, and go ahead and make two forums, one for GW:EN and another for GW2. I guess.
It might be a good idea to just wait till there is just more and more info out there, and go ahead and make two forums, one for GW:EN and another for GW2. I guess.
Not A Fifty Five
yeah I think another good reason for the GW2 forum would be a compilation thread for information on GW2. There's a lot of stuff I want to know like if anet drops GW1 after GW2 is released I don't see the point in getting GW:EN.
Malice Black
Just give them all a 1 week "holiday" bingo! no more GW2 threads 
Darcy
While today's update has blown GW:EN and GW2 off the first pages, those threads will be back.
I agree that at least new sub-forums are required. You could give the same ones to both Riverside and Sardelac; one for discussion and one for suggestions. Also needed is a sticky with confirmed to date info.
@Not A Fifty Five - ANet has stated in several interviews that they will continue to support GW after release of GW2. Think about it. You buy GW2, find out about specials given to GW owners, run out and buy a GW campaign and GW:EN, so you can get the specials also. If they closed GW servers too soon, they would cut off that revenue source.
I agree that at least new sub-forums are required. You could give the same ones to both Riverside and Sardelac; one for discussion and one for suggestions. Also needed is a sticky with confirmed to date info.
@Not A Fifty Five - ANet has stated in several interviews that they will continue to support GW after release of GW2. Think about it. You buy GW2, find out about specials given to GW owners, run out and buy a GW campaign and GW:EN, so you can get the specials also. If they closed GW servers too soon, they would cut off that revenue source.
Henchman
The RiverSide is now being filled with threads which only spectulate GW2 and GW:EN.
I own GW1, not GW2, and I have no interest to discuss a game which is due out in 2 years.
The two games are clearly seperable, and a forum for each one would be appreciated.
As for GW:EN, you might as well open a sub-forum for it too. Sure it may not have many posts now, but its probably going to have more posts than the HvH or TA forums. Besides, since its expected to be released in half a year, more information will come in, and it will soon need its own forum. So you might as well just open the forum now, rather than later (which will also save relocating threads).
I own GW1, not GW2, and I have no interest to discuss a game which is due out in 2 years.
The two games are clearly seperable, and a forum for each one would be appreciated.
As for GW:EN, you might as well open a sub-forum for it too. Sure it may not have many posts now, but its probably going to have more posts than the HvH or TA forums. Besides, since its expected to be released in half a year, more information will come in, and it will soon need its own forum. So you might as well just open the forum now, rather than later (which will also save relocating threads).
Inde
The problem is coming up with a new forum/sub-forum/site is not such an easily reversible thing if we find we need to do something else later on. We are talking, we are discussing and we do not have any formal decision yet. Doing it right the first time is always preferable to backtracking and correcting. Please be patient as we develop the idea. We are dealing with 2 seperate games and how to handle this right now. In the past with future chapters we have always put up the new forum just a month or 2 in advance. This has been standard practice so regardless, there is still time and we will continue working on this.
Bowman Artemis
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Originally Posted by Inde
The problem is coming up with a new forum/sub-forum/site is not such an easily reversible thing if we find we need to do something else later on. We are talking, we are discussing and we do not have any formal decision yet. Doing it right the first time is always preferable to backtracking and correcting. Please be patient as we develop the idea. We are dealing with 2 seperate games and how to handle this right now. In the past with future chapters we have always put up the new forum just a month or 2 in advance. This has been standard practice so regardless, there is still time and we will continue working on this.
I'm sure one of the big things being discussed is "GW2Guru & GWGuru or GW1&2Guru". These things aren't to be taken lightly. For all we know, half the forum could start flaming the guru team like they do anet.