*The following is based on speculation*
The last couple of weeks, I have heard a lot about the coming Asura minipet. Apparently there are some people that want to buy multiple magazines and resell the minipets.
This is lame, for 2 reasons at least: First, it can be considered the same as buying online Gw-ingame money from eBay or whatever, which is illegal I think. Secondly, the pet price will drop to rockbottom prices, compared to other minipet releases, especially the first ones.
Really, the 'stretch' is out of the minipet-'metagame', the markets are beginning to become overflooded by minipets, though some are still far rarer then others. Asura minipet NOT being one of them.
All US residents, have the option to get an Asura minipet for FREE, via the PC-Gamer website (by ordering a free sample copy), this tip is also described on Wiki on the subject of Asura minipet. No doubt lots of americans will make use of this.
With the coming of Grey Giant and Varesh pets in the past, a lot of people speculated that there will be a high demand for them. They were wrong, since the market got overflooded with minipets. Now these pets sell hardly for 10-15k, even though they do not 'multiply' and grow in number, like the birthday-minipets do. That brings us to the fact that more and more characters begin celebrating their anniversaries, thus more pets are coming to the market every day.
Minipet prices had a brief revival of ingame prices, after the introduction of using them in towns, but it seems to die out, certainly after the flood of minipet Pigs from latest Canthan event.
It also appears that the Asura minipet is considered 'ugly' by the bigger proportion of the gamers. Though I am not one of them and there are more like-minded.
To sum it all up:
-Aiming on a saturated market; too many minipets already.
-Too large quantity of Azuras; due to free minipets at sample from Pc Gamer
-Small amount of interest; pet is considered 'ugly' by most.
I doubt the minipet will sell above 100k to anyone, and if anyone succeeds, my salutations. The person that bought it should not be allowed to procreate.
My expectations will be that the pet will start to be sold at a steady price of 20k or lower and will generally go down with the passing of months, as will al pets. Though no doubt people will ask insane amounts.
*maybe this better belongs to Pricecheck, but that would be wrong, since it is based on speculation*
Why Minipet Asura will be rockbottom priced
Guildmaster Cain
Etta
The US only got the magazine earlier then other places that's all. EU and most other places will get the mini pet as well, depend on which magazines in that part of the world that do the promo deal with anet.
There are a list of all the magazine that will have minipet on GW offical site. For those in the UK it's PC Zone.
There are a list of all the magazine that will have minipet on GW offical site. For those in the UK it's PC Zone.
Corinthian
I say people who sell it should instead give money for anyone willing to accept such abomination into their inventory...
undeadgun
u know the new mini is not avaliable in worldwide right??? so the countries that cant have em, ppl there would like to pay the rideculars price for it, just imo.
Guildmaster Cain
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The US only got the magazine earlier then other places that's all. EU and most other places will get the mini pet as well, depend on which magazines in that part of the world that do the promo deal with anet.
There are a list of all the magazine that will have minipet on GW offical site. For those in the UK it's PC Zone. |
Furthermore, most countries and languages are covered by magazine releases, especially the countries with the most players. Ofcourse there are some players in remote parts, but they are also small in number. For myself, I am dutch, we dont have a magazine that has the minipet with it, though we have enough magazine varieties. Nevertheless, most Dutch people overcome this problem, by buying a PC Gamer online and let it ship to them. There are several shops that ship over the whole world. Or go to an Airport and buy one in the international book-shops.
Silly Warrior
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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
Plus if you register at www.pcgamer.com/, you get a sample of PC Gamer, included are the disc you get every month and other extras. So you only need an American street adress and you get a free Asura minipet.
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Cain, I think the Asura minipets are going to be rockbottom priced because you just told everyone on Guru how to get them for free. Good going.
But how many people are really going to register? Truth be told I did, but that doesn't mean everyone wants a free copy....even though its just clicks away.
A vast majority of the population also thinks they are simply ugly. If Asuras were dragons that could fly like the Kunny, I'm betting alot more people would be buying them, trading them, and trying to get their hands on them.
Grey Giant was decent looking, but it wasn't anything special. Neither is this Asura.
It has to be visually cool to sell good. Then again, your already getting a CD, Magizine, and great article for like 8 bucks, so the mini is just an added bonus.
Neo Nugget
well i just looked at the auction for the *upcoming* asura......6 bids at 100k lol i highly doubt they will actually be buying that.
*Alexiel*
I think it'll follow along the lines of the grey giant pet again, but maybe even less priced because alot more people will want to buy a magazine that has news/pictures of GW2/GW:EN.
I'll get be getting the magazine when its available mainly for the news/pics but also the minipet cos on the contrary, I think the asura is adorable XD
I'll get be getting the magazine when its available mainly for the news/pics but also the minipet cos on the contrary, I think the asura is adorable XD
Knightsaber Sith
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Plus if you register at www.pcgamer.com/, you get a sample of PC Gamer, included are the disc you get every month and other extras. So you only need an American street adress and you get a free Asura minipet.
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Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
*The following is based on speculation*
The last couple of weeks, I have heard a lot about the coming Asura minipet. Apparently there are some people that want to buy multiple magazines and resell the minipets. |
I don't think the Mini-pets as a whole will carry over to GW2 (I think there will be unique Mini-pets that do, but we'll get them through GW:EN).
So, I think the whole Mini-pet market will tank pretty soon.
That said, I'm still looking forward to getting my PCGamer in the mail, and you can bet I'll be showing off my Asura mini-pet! (NOT for sale!)
daraaksii
It is worthless like the Giant.. And by the way, I think you can add only one key to an account.
Guildmaster Cain
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
One mini-pet per account, correct? So, are people buying multiple magazines hoping to sell the actual CODE? If so, someone would be pretty stupid to buy a code, since it could have already been used. I smell scam.
I don't think the Mini-pets as a whole will carry over to GW2 (I think there will be unique Mini-pets that do, but we'll get them through GW:EN. So, I think the whole Mini-pet market will tank pretty soon. |
About silly Warrior's comment: Well its also said on http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Asura, which has a bigger reach then guru.
Basically we had the first batch of BD-pets going for nice prices. Then we got the Grey Giant minipet as one of the newer releases. It was 50kish at start but now dropped to 10-15k. After that we got Varesh, wich was 30kish at start and dropped to 10-15k. We are getting a Asura soon, but in between we also got bonus pets in the form of Pigs and Rollerbeetles, not to mention the downgoing trend of 50->30->?. (ofcourse it is hard to compare 2 minipets, since Varesh was considered generally 'less', since it didnt have a weapon and was very small at first release.
Etta
I can see it now, online minipet mart by anet. 1 for $0.99 or 0.50p buy 3 for $2.50 or £1.25.
Neo Nugget
Varesh was actually 80-90k before nf actually came out when people added their CE Keys. Sold for 60k then traded gaint for varesh then sold for 30k.
Im hoping asura will be the same, im even betting that it will be less because not as many people like it. (i doooo).
Im hoping asura will be the same, im even betting that it will be less because not as many people like it. (i doooo).
Corinthian
I rather own a rare minipet than sell it. I hear people asking for my Kuunavang all the time.
*Alexiel*
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I rather own a rare minipet than sell it. I hear people asking for my Kuunavang all the time.
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Commander Ryker
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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
*The following is based on speculation*
The last couple of weeks, I have heard a lot about the coming Asura minipet. Apparently there are some people that want to buy multiple magazines and resell the minipets. This is lame, for 2 reasons at least: First, it can be considered the same as buying online Gw-ingame money from eBay or whatever, which is illegal I think. Secondly, the pet price will drop to rockbottom prices, compared to other minipet releases, especially the first ones. |
Guildmaster Cain
Its the same because:
If you use real money to buy x amount of ingame cash on eBay, it is the same as you buy multiple magazine, just for the purpose of reselling for an x amount of ingame cash. Real money converted to ingame money. But it is true that they will need to posess multiple accounts. I have read the statements of those people saying they will buy x amount of magazines, just to resell the pets for 100k +ectos. Ok, this doesnt sound really serious, but sadly (for them mostly), they were.
If you use real money to buy x amount of ingame cash on eBay, it is the same as you buy multiple magazine, just for the purpose of reselling for an x amount of ingame cash. Real money converted to ingame money. But it is true that they will need to posess multiple accounts. I have read the statements of those people saying they will buy x amount of magazines, just to resell the pets for 100k +ectos. Ok, this doesnt sound really serious, but sadly (for them mostly), they were.
Mordakai
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If it's anything like the grey giant code, people will need multiple accounts because you can only do one per account. I also don't see your reasoning behind the thought that it's the same as ebaying gold. If people have enough of accounts and want to waste money buying multiple magazines then that's their business. It is not the same as ebaying gold or GW wouldn't do the pets like that.
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But seriously, any REAL money to be made off of Mini-pets (and I think the main problem MMMORPGs have with buying items/gold for real cash, is that other people are profiting off of their IP!), is negligible.
It's such a volatile market, it hardly seems worth the investment to buy multiple accounts and magazines just to sell a mini-pet for... what, 20k? How much real cash can you get for 20k? Not a lot. Probably not even enough to make back your investment.
So, as long as people aren't making REAL money off mini-pets, and just virtual money, I don't think Anet has any problem with it at all.
(It's funny to me... people complain about others selling the exclusive mini-pets in CEs, but they don't complain about people who own Multiple accounts or have bought extra character slots get extra Birthday Gifts every year. Why is that?)
BoredJoe
When people start thinking of minipets in terms of gold so much, it's probably a good reason for A.Net to keep churning out ugly mini pets.
Sir Skullcrasher
I think this minipet wouldn't sell for that much. Only those rare one (mini panda, ghostly hero, naga, and others) are worth the price of 100K + whatever amount of ectos.
MSecorsky
I just want one because I don't have one. Value be damned.
I won't give up my little scorpion dude either, so don't ask.
I won't give up my little scorpion dude either, so don't ask.
Feminist Terrorist
Whether it's 30k or 100k, that's still more money than I had before, and I'm not too proud to turn down 30k for a minipet. If it sold for more, I'd be thrilled.
Sir Skullcrasher
I might buy the magazine this weekend, hopefully I'll get more information on GW2 from it.
LadyNadya
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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
I doubt the minipet will sell above 100k to anyone, and if anyone succeeds, my salutations. The person that bought it should not be allowed to procreate. My expectations will be that the pet will start to be sold at a steady price of 20k or lower and will generally go down with the passing of months, as will al pets. Though no doubt people will ask insane amounts. |
Former Ruling
I"ve always thought the same as the OP. Ever since non-birthday/non-CE minipets started coming in...
Everyone jumped on the first one - The Grey Giant remembering the 100k+ecto kuunavang, and grey giant PRIMIERED at like 60k (You had to spam for hours to get over 60k the first hour Nightfall servers were up..), and the that one wasn't even as wided publicized as this one and came out in an era where minipets had real worth.
And thats when it started going down hill..All the way down to the Minipig, which was going for 30k TOPS in the first 15 minutes of the event even only a hand full of people even knew where they came from. The icing on that cake was when they dropped in the finale, which hit their going price of 8-10k down to Free-1k.
Everyone jumped on the first one - The Grey Giant remembering the 100k+ecto kuunavang, and grey giant PRIMIERED at like 60k (You had to spam for hours to get over 60k the first hour Nightfall servers were up..), and the that one wasn't even as wided publicized as this one and came out in an era where minipets had real worth.
And thats when it started going down hill..All the way down to the Minipig, which was going for 30k TOPS in the first 15 minutes of the event even only a hand full of people even knew where they came from. The icing on that cake was when they dropped in the finale, which hit their going price of 8-10k down to Free-1k.
VanDamselx
The Kuunavang still sells for 100k+ecto. I think the market will already be flooded with mini Asuras for the sheer fact that every GW player is probably gonna want to land their hands on the PC Gamer mag to read it for themselves.
Big deal.
Big deal.
Skye Marin
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Its the same because:
If you use real money to buy x amount of ingame cash on eBay, it is the same as you buy multiple magazine, just for the purpose of reselling for an x amount of ingame cash. Real money converted to ingame money. But it is true that they will need to posess multiple accounts. I have read the statements of those people saying they will buy x amount of magazines, just to resell the pets for 100k +ectos. Ok, this doesnt sound really serious, but sadly (for them mostly), they were. |
The most harmful aspect of gold farmers to the game is that they find exploits to farm gold at rates many times faster than the average player. After it is sold, this injects gold into the economy and causes inflation which raises prices all around. Secondly, the farmers make money on Anet's software where they have no real right to.
Now, Anet giving away a minipet doesn't do this. No gold is introduced, no inflation occurs, and thus the economy isn't harmed. While the pet may be an incentive to some people to buy the magazine when they otherwise wouldn't, note that you do get a magazine with the pet, and millions of existing subscribers wouldn't mind getthing the magazine without the pet anyways.
This makes it signicantly different than, say, Anet selling a minipet in the online store, alone.
Now, if you don't believe this, just trust that Anet will do everything in their power to protect their investment. They like money just fine, and wouldn't do anything that would jeopardize the steady source they have now.
The value of the mini-pets is only what you can get another person to pay for them. Demand for the newest mini-pets will always be high, and then drop once they get common enough for folks to under-cut. Pretty simple.
yasmina
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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
In theory, but it says allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. What if you're too late and they send you the June issue
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The thing is if your trying to make a quick buck off the asura minipet it will be your own fault on what you get for it, everyone is always trying to be the first person to get something and then sell it for outstanding prices like they did with the mini pig and then the next day they where given out in droves. Use your money on something you know you wont be able to get with ease.
Lonesamurai
Right, simple fact (as i got mine today)
Just like the Gray Giant, you can only make one per account, so buying multiple copies of the mag is a usless waste of money and once you make one, if you sell it, you CAN'T make another! Thats it, good night god bless
Just like the Gray Giant, you can only make one per account, so buying multiple copies of the mag is a usless waste of money and once you make one, if you sell it, you CAN'T make another! Thats it, good night god bless
Levi Garett
Well most "power" players have multiple accounts. I inherited my best friends account and use it for storage. Guess that's two Mini's for me then!
My first thought when I saw it in Kamadan ID1 was Mini Chucky! I think it's the ugliest thing I've seen in GW!
My first thought when I saw it in Kamadan ID1 was Mini Chucky! I think it's the ugliest thing I've seen in GW!
Aecum
im pissed off, the spanish listed magazine dosnt bring the miniature
cosyfiep
mini panda 
would rather have the rollerbeetle any day!
oh well, will get it with the mag ----when I go out and buy it.
would rather have the rollerbeetle any day!
oh well, will get it with the mag ----when I go out and buy it.
Anarkii
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Originally Posted by BoredJoe
When people start thinking of minipets in terms of gold so much, it's probably a good reason for A.Net to keep churning out ugly mini pets.
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tweedledumb
I don't think I'm going to spring for yet another fugly mini. I want a mini ruby djinn for my elementalist and I want it NOW!
Malice Black
Just like all other "free" pets this will be worth 20k on the open market, maybe less, considering the chilly reception it got when Gaile annouced it's arrival.
I plan on keeping mine, ugly FTW.
Edit: Forgot 1 important thing, I have 3 accounts..WTS FUGLY mini pet 20k
I plan on keeping mine, ugly FTW.
Edit: Forgot 1 important thing, I have 3 accounts..WTS FUGLY mini pet 20k
Zappa
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im pissed off, the spanish listed magazine dosnt bring the miniature
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At least you got something. I don't even live in a country it seems...
/sarc
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Gaile Gray
Opinions are mixed about the Asura, it's true. I like mine, especially the little growly face, but you know, to each her own, eh? 
I'm not too worried about "worth" or resale value. I love my miniatures and don't consider them a saleable commodity, although certainly it's every player's right to sell them. (In fact, I should head over to the trade forum to see if anyone is selling a Bone Dragon or a Mallyx or a... Yeah, it's like Pokemon -- I gotta catch 'em all! )
Zappa: Sinto. Perhaps Portugal will get on the list; I know that they are still talking to media partners about placement.
tweedledumb: Oooooh, yes, a Djinn miniature! Tasty!
I'm not too worried about "worth" or resale value. I love my miniatures and don't consider them a saleable commodity, although certainly it's every player's right to sell them. (In fact, I should head over to the trade forum to see if anyone is selling a Bone Dragon or a Mallyx or a... Yeah, it's like Pokemon -- I gotta catch 'em all!
Zappa: Sinto.
Perhaps Portugal will get on the list; I know that they are still talking to media partners about placement.tweedledumb: Oooooh, yes, a Djinn miniature! Tasty!
The Herbalizer
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Its the same because:
If you use real money to buy x amount of ingame cash on eBay, it is the same as you buy multiple magazine, just for the purpose of reselling for an x amount of ingame cash. Real money converted to ingame money. But it is true that they will need to posess multiple accounts. I have read the statements of those people saying they will buy x amount of magazines, just to resell the pets for 100k +ectos. Ok, this doesnt sound really serious, but sadly (for them mostly), they were. |
IIIPowerIII
You get it with a /command thing? If yes im gonna buy one and get mine in pre