Legendary Defender of Ascalon and Survivor titles

As some of you may know, GW Wiki states that it's IMPOSSIBLE to get both these titles with the same character. I don't think it's fair, really. Many here (myself included) would be more than ready to try even given the slightest chance.

A solution would be simple: making mobs death-level with pets. Anyone can get a pet in pre without having to select the secondary profession.

Currently wiki says that the pets only give them xp on their first death so in other words we're screwed.

Fair? Couldn't you get something else to complain about? The Defender title was added for all those pre-searing nuts, why exactly is it not "fair"?

So you'd be willing to res your pet every 5 seconds endlessly 10-15 hours a day for a few months ?

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no one stops you from going for the survivor titles after you hit 20,it would only take a little bit more time.But if you have time to get legendary defender of ascalon that wont be an issue....

Why would you want this though. Alot of people say they want both because they want it towards PKM, but seriously, you should've looked up some more information about the Legendary Defender of Ascalon title. This title will cost you at least a month of deathleveling, there is ABSOLUTLY NO WAY to go through a month of sitting in front of your screen, ressing your pet. Seeing you're asking exactly that; go look for information before complaining.

As it is it can't be done. You can't death-level mobs by killing your pet. The solution I'm proposing is easy enough to implement imo.

I want to get the LDoA title and then move on to post with the survivor still intact. I don't reckon it's a crime. i'd say it almost give a bit more importance to the KoaBD, as both titles aren't amongst the easiest to get.

PS: lilanthe, I assure you there are ppl who would. I would, even if taking it extra, extra slowly.

PPS: Maximonster, I did look up wiki as I said in the 1st post, and since most thinkg it's the most reliable guide today, I went with what it said.

I dunno why you ppl are so jumpy about this. It's not like it's gonna hurt you if you don't wanna know about it.

I don't think you understand how Survivor works. After you've died for the first time, you're done. That's it. No title for you. Ever.

Note that I'm not agreeing with the OP; I just wanted to point out the flaw in this rebuttal.

You do know that if you die once, you cannot gain the Survivor title?

dang,i must have been living under a rock . I thought dieing just restarted your exp bar for survivor.

I would much rather see one lvl15 (or whatever it would require) charr boss added to pre so we could get LDoA by actually defending Ascalon instead of repeatedly dieing for Ascalon, but that's a separate issue.

Why should it be possible for one character to get every (max) title?

I don't think they ever meant for this title to be easily obtained. After all, the only reason it was added was for those hardcore players that got to level 20 in presearing ascalon. They didn't have a title to go after, they did it for themselves, and after a while, ANet decided to give them a little reward.

To make the title easier to achieve would ruin the purpose of the title in the first place.

Frankly I don't see how staying for hours on end resurrectin your pet to death-level is easy.

I said I want them to make it possible, not easy, to get BOTH with the same char.

QFT the current title seems a bit bizarre considering how you actually get it; doesn't stop me going for it though. Chances of getting it changed are slim to none though.

Not sure how I feel about survivor and LDoA on the same character. Although it would be sweet, and they both count as max, you can't actually display them both at the same time. But having mobs death level with pets would be nice, as they would level twice as fast killing both my pet and me (if I decided not to go for survivor).

This is probably more trouble than it's worth. In order for the death process to function like you described, you'd need a reliable way to ensure that your pet always gets targeted before you do. If anyone can pull that off while still sitting AFK, I'd like to see how it's done.

I just want to be able to kill things to get to lvl 20 in pre.
Not waste valuable time doing absolutely nothing.

Time is Money.
And i like money

This thread should be killed in pre-searing and allowed to remain dead.

probably be able to get both when u transfer titles in GW 2 anyway.

i know someone got both beofer by the guild hall lvling but that was nerfed, there was also a glitch which allowed people into hall from pre searing.

if they wanted to make this title easier they would of allowed hard mode in pre searing. They've said they're not gunna use hard mode in pre searing becuase the high lvl enemies

in case it were possible... how would u not die in 15 hours? if they see your pet, thwy will automatically see you...

I'd suggest making another player death-level for you, but it's impossible since he won't res at the shrine unless you die too, and the only Res Skill in Pre-Searing is Res Sig (so you can res him only once)

Personally, i think the Legendary Defender of Ascalon title should be account-based and not character-based, so characters who left Pre-Searing before the title was added or characters created in Cantha and Elona will have a chance to get it (and that also lets you get both Survivor and LDoA)
What do you think?

frozy if the LDoA means you reach lvl 20 before its destruction, how can other chars get it solely by having one get it. What I'm suggesting is only that they make it possible to death-level them with the pet, that's all. This way they will still be hard to get and be possible to get both.

meh and rubbish.

Any player that puts the effort and time into gaining LDOA deserves the title for THAT character. I'm not a fan of account titles for anything but PVP stats. (mostly because PVP normally can benefit from unlocked abilities and what not)

As for getting both, I wouldn't complain if it WERE possible to do by adding a level appropriate boss that would make it possible but if it's attainable by death leveling a pet, that's just silly. If you can earn level 20 killing a level 15 or more with the typical stats and skills for a level 15 in Presear gear without dying you deserve it.

Keep in mind, I would never be crazy enough to try for it either. I don't have a ton of respect for survivor titles. I see too many folks bail on groups when the going gets tight (which tends to get me killed) instead of sticking it out.

I think the record time for LDoA is like 750 hours. Others have taken over 1000 hours. Can you honestly sit here and tell me you'd sit infront of your computer for 750+ hours ressing your pet repeatedly just to get 2 titles in a video game? If you said yes to that, I encourage you to seek psychological help.

If you said no, then how are you going to get both? Setting up a bot to do it seems like the only way. I don't think ANet's going to make a change to the game that encourages botting...

As for putting a level 15 boss in, that seems like a much better solution, however I still wouldn't like the idea much. I mean people have put all the time into getting LDoA would be pretty pissed if it suddenly became easier.

Oh and also allowing LDoA+Survivor on the same char gives prophecies characters a "1-up" over canthan/elonian characters. Basically they have access to 1 more maxable title that canthan/elonian will never get. As it is now, any character from any chapter can get the same amount of maxed titles. Prophecies can get survivor OR LDoA + every other title. Factions/NF get survivor + every other title, keeping it balanced.


Oh and for the record, while I haven't confirmed this myself I've heard rumors of a way you CAN get both in the games current state. First off you need 2 PCs and 2 accounts. Account "A" will have your character going for LDoA+Survivor. Accnt "B" will just be your second account that has a level 16 (highest w/o d-leveling) character on it. So get A and B to 16. If B dies, np. A can't die though.

Okay, so now you need to uninstall GW on A's PC. Now re-install gw and make sure you only have like the bar minimum installed. You don't want any of the areas downloaded, or more specifically, you do NOT want northern lands (place where u d-level char) downloaded.

So now meet in ascalon and have A and B party up. Now head through the gate into the northern lands. Now heres where it gets really tricky. A's PC will start downloading northerlands. You somehow need to limit the download speed to ridiculously slow like 1 byte per minute or something. I don't know how you'd do this but I'm sure some hacker/programmer has made a program to limit your download speed on your PC. So now it'll take A like 8+ hours to load northerlands. During this time, B goes and d-levels the char up to a nice level. Since A hasn't loaded, if I'm not mistaken, B will be able to res. However, if A is loaded, B won't be able to res until both of them are dead. So now like 8+ hours later, stop your program thats limiting the DL speed and then A will load into northerlands. At this point B leaves the game, A somehow manages to kill the high level char without dying. Alternately B could be a monk and keep A alive but that also means A shares the exp with B, meaning it'll take twice as long for A to get the title. Now repeat the above a couple hundred times....

As far as I know, no one has proved or disproved this theory. I know, its ridiculously impractical but if you desperate enough to sit infront of your PC for 750+ hours ressing your pet..... I'd say this method isn't as bad as that....

there is another way where you dont have to install all again
you can force a disconnect, reconnect after 8 minutes (10 minutes = limit)
then force disconnect...
in the mean time account B = lvling the charr up by dieing...
while A disconnects and reconnects all the time...

but those 2 ways (yours and mine)
are just VERY useless lol
it would take ages of time you waste on a line of 20 characters under your name.

And it still won't work -_-

For your ally to resurrect, your character must be dead too. When you are disconnected or you force-disconnect, your character is still in the game, idle, vulnerable to threats, you don't dissapear.

Face it, there is no way to get survivor and LDoA now. All have been tried, and all have failed.

I think I'd be pretty effin' happy with just the LDoA title because, well damn it's the most elite title in the game. You can't have your cake and eat it, too (I know that analogy is annoying but bear with me).

A single lvl15 in Presear would rock!

You're saying this when you joined GWGuru 2 years ago, and your avatar is a monk with FoW?

Anyways, I think it's fair because some people are really greedy, just pick one or the other. You don't always get what you want.

At the end of the day, you just gotta say: It's just a game. Don't take it so seriously. If you really really really want both, go the extra mile and make 2 characters.

its not impossibly, its attualy very easy to get both, but u need a partner

he sits and death lvls the charr

as you go fa away to where u dont die

come back and kill them when u feel you should

or just have a 2nd account come help you.....easy as pie

but this pie takes a long time to make.......








just read the above post


POLL FOR REZ CHANT IN PRE!!!!!!!!

omg omg omg

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are you really serious???????????????????????????

are you saying you are willing to expend 1000 hours clicing every 5 seconds the same botton????????

really????????????

for what????
only for a title on a video game????????????????

aahh you are going to make me cry

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i mean the normal LDoA it is on the border line of psycological help already, but it can be afked!!
actually is not that bad if you leave your pc running the death level stuff and you go for your job or school or whatever and then return to kill the critter and doing that everyday.
but come on staying there to rez the pet every 5 sec!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????

jez, dont take me wrong i have more than 4000 hours ingame but i do stuff with guildies or diverse things like quest, missions, gvg and all, even farming... but doing nothing more than clicking one and the same botton over and over and over... every 5 sec.... 10 hours a day.... for 4 months....

anet would be inhuman to implement this.

please look for psycological help.

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I'm scared to read the thread :[

Both must die for one to ressurect. Can't you f*cking read ?

Did you read ANY of this thread before you posted? Your partner will not be resurrected by the shrine as long as you are alive.

Even if you're located fifteen radar screens away.

It does not work that way.

Question

Is it not possible to get survivor if you died even once?

Can't I get it with a char that died before?

Ok...now I own all 3 campaigns but why should someone who has Prophecies be able to get one more max title than someone who doesn't have it? LDoA is solely there for a choice: that or survivor. People with only Nightfall and/or Factions would get screwed out of a title. Both at the same should and is not allowed for what I think is that reason.

So... This may sound kind of dumb, but I am something of a Newb to the forums, but what exactly *IS* "Death-Leveling"?

Allowing monsters to kill your character so they can level up. The purpose of this is to make higher level monsters to kill and gain experience points, as killing monsters 6 levels below your character's level does not grant any experience points, and currently preseering does not have any monsters that allows you to level to 20.

Would have been nice if you could have gotten LDoA and Legendary Surviver from the start, but at this stage I think it would be a bad idea to make it possible. Too many people have had to make the decision about which to go for, if it was made possible now that would be like cheating so many players out of an extra title. My necro has got 11 maxed titles including Legendary survivor, was gutted that I could not get LDoA as well, but man if they make it possible to get it and Legendary Survivor as well it would be horrible.

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On a personal note, I just think getting LDoA plus Legendary Survivor title is just plain nuts.

its lunny bin crazy, LdOA is nuts in its self...i may get it sometime(lvl 11 is pretty nice in pre) but both?


/sucks thumb, looks for help