GWEN: Hero's

*cough* Gwen be evile *cough* seriously tho, I kinda doubt she will be a hero, I get the feeling she is the fiery destroyer.. the title's acronym is named after her... she did destroy everyone with fire at the end o the guild wars beta... yeah...Gwen will kill us all.....GG Gwen GG..

Did you even read what I wrote? Can you dispute that it's the game design of GW that makes it hard and discourages multiplaying and NOT heroes? Instances fragment human interaction NOT heroes.

Can you say that the game will be for the better if they took out henchies and heroes without drastically changing the game itself?

And it's funny that you complain how Heroes are destroying the human interaction aspect and community yet you just said that you dont have a buddy list of people that you can play with. And that's exactly why Heroes/henchies are needed in this game. With the way this game is designed, it's not always possible to get people!

Please dont use the name of the game as though it's some sort of argument. I'm willing to bet that there are some people who have never played or rarely ever GvG in this game. And by your reasoning that's all this game is about. Guilds fighting other guilds in wars.

don't get me wrong, I too basically play at night. VERY LIMITED numbers online when I play... And my alliance is spread all over the place, I got 2 guild in europe 1 in asia, 3 in east coast usa, 1 midwest, 1 in west coast, and 2 in Canada... and I am in Alaska... OUCH!!! hard as hell to get things going... especially for PvP or GvG... lol So yea like I said if I am basically alone Heroes are there, but if the town is packed full of people there is no need for heroes... But even then its hard as hell to get a group going because of the reason I gave above... Thats the problem...

I can see the heroes for people that do not own Nightfall... that makes since. But I would rather REPLACE a hero then have to add more... the shear inventory organization of that many NPCs is CRAZY!!!

What is being suggested would narrow the in game community into just about nothing. It would destroy it. Maybe you'll find company with the WTB/WTS spammers? That's pretty much all that would prevail maybe, and only in some of the key towns. An online game without a community isn't an online game. What is being suggested would kill the PVE game that most of you probably play if you're busy worrying about heroes. It isn't game breaking to have three heroes, yourself, henchies, and some PUGs. Or heroes, henchies, and yourself. Or even you, a buddy, and six heroes. What I'm wondering is why do you want to eliminate your buddy from that equation? Or rather people in general? It's balanced as it is. Some argue it's already autonomous enough without just going all out and eliminating the need for players altogether. Are you so selfish that you would deny the community for your ends?

The community still exists. There's a lot of people on and further more if you can't find enough people, with heroes you control three slots in your party and can set up whatever you need. You can use henchies, and if you don't want to interact with others in many instances you have that choice already. It is not imposed on you. The multiple classes of heroes coming in handy for specialized team set up's. 15/25 potential characters to fill any role your party needs is wonderful. Heroes are great, I use them all the time. The characters are unique in many ways, they have neat personalities and interesting backgrounds, some aren't even human (hope to see more of that with GWEN, lawl charr, no elves plz). There's a lot of variety to go around, we need more not less. That's something really great about this game and I want more of that. But I don't want it to the point of killing the games community. I'm almost certain Anet feels the same way if they're the folks I know.

This is getting pointless. This is off topic. No more of this please. This is about Guild Wars Eye of The North, fun hero wishlists, and speculation (hopefully reasonable :P) on said heroes in the future expansion. Go beg for single player GW elsewhere.

Well, here's to hoping that GW2 will solve all these problems of even NEEDING henchies or even NEEDING to have a team to do anything.

The persistant world will make sure that we'll get all the human interaction that we can stand but at the same time won't require that we bring along a team (NPC or people alike) to get anywhere.

Stop with the outright lies and putting words in people's mouths. From what I've read, people who prefer Heroes over PUGs do NOT strictly prefer them over playing with guildies and friends.

I DONT want to "eliminate my buddy" I'd prefer playing with my girlfriend and friends when I can. But they arent always on at the same time as I am. I like Heroes for the fact that they're always there when I need them. Yes, I prefer them over PUGS but it doesnt mean that I'm "being selfish that I'd deny the community" Where the heck did you get that crap from?

And before you talk about selfish, look at your responses. You seem willing to take away the options of others just to see people play the way YOU want. And once again you still havent disputed that it's the game design/bad community and not Heroes that killed off PUG'ing.

Instances were originally designed not only to lighten server load but also to keep people from griefing, looting and kill stealing that happens all the time in MMOs. But they have since then fixed all those problems and won't need instances anymore in GW2. Now stop complaining about lack of human interaction since you full well that the game was entirely instanced when you bought the game.

Well, for Zhed they haven't thought for Zhed anything in that time, For Zhed it would just be a back up ele, but if Anet think of making more back ups.
We alread have enough. So maybe the other races in the upcomming game they will have differ skills but I am just 15% sure^^.

HERO's from Eye of the North...

Id like to see several race options for HERO's.

Male Dwarf Warrior
Male Charr Monk
Female Sylvani Ranger
Female Norn Dervish
Male Asura Assassin
Female Human Mesmer (Gwen I hope)
Murssat Elementalist (with Spectral Agony)
A real Undead Skeleton Necromancer (OR just a Skull that floats around and gives you bad advice from time to time anyone remember Mort from Torment?)
Male Tengu Paragon
Female Centaur Ritualist

I don't really care as long as each of the ten professions and four new races is represented. I'd also like it if the Warrior, Necromancer, Mesmer, Elementalist, Ritualist and Paragon are male and the Ranger, Assassin and Dervish are female. I'd also like to see a Dwarf and a Tengu. I'd also like to see a Djinn and a Wallow, but that's unlikely.

Also, Mort's awesome.

Not to make predictions, but I don't understand why everyone is assuming Gwen will be a Mesmer. Whenever she talked about anything regarding something along the lines of spell effects in Pre-Searing, she was always talking about burning things, which would make me think Elementalist.

However, she always looked up to Prince Rurik's fiancee, Althea, before she died, and Althea was a Mesmer. So you may all be right.

But, as is very commonly mistaken, Gwen's mother was not a Mesmer. Gwen's mother was a woman named Sarah, and she was a Monk in Ashford Village.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Sarah

Predatorus Viktus
"The Father," First Order of Blood Knights

"There is an ancient Repticus saying, that something lasts only as long as the last person remembers it. My people have come to trust memory over history. Memory, like fire, is radiant and immutable. Those who renounce the flame of memory in order to put out the dangerous fire of truth: Beware these men, for they are dangerous themselves... and unwise. There are false histories written on the blood of those who might remember, and on those who seek the truth."

I was catching up on some side quests earlier tonight, and I happened to stop in at Gayla Hatchery. I think that there were 2 other people there, and it did not look like they were trying to get a group going. So, why would it be so terrible if I were able to hero this mission with a full hero group? It will be a lot worse to the community if people begin to get frustrated with the lack of human players and leave the game (than having heros to help) wont it?

/signed

AGREED!!!! This is my speculation as well.

Couldn't of said it better myself. I don't want a full party of heroes because I want to avoid interaction with other players; I want to be able to do difficult missions and not have to depend on henchies to get me through it. With GW:EN and hard mode players will be even more spread out. Seems like a great solution to me.

People who don't want to play with other players will fill the 4 other slots with henchies anyway.

Because the new artwork looks like a Mesmer. She certainly doesn't look like an elementalist, and she looks concerned, certainly not like a last boss, or any kind of boss. Assuming that she'll be a Mesmer hero is really quite reasonable..

Tengu/assasin

Dwarf/monk

male sylvari/ritualist

norn/warrior

asura/mesmer

charr/elementalist

asura/necro

female sylvari/dervish

charr/paragon


my hopes...we have enough humans...and GWEN is definitely evil

I really want to see female Charr!! Any news on it Anet?

Really? She never said anything like that to me. It was always small-talk.

Does anyone have a link or list of Gwen quotes?

Considering most animals in the world don't really look that much different between genders, maybe the Charr won't look much different either. Maybe less of a mane perhaps?

She liked the Mesmer outfits.

I liked what was mentioned about King Adelbern as a hero. Kind of goes with what I'd mentioned a couple of months back about an UW quest to go and retrieve Rurik and bring him back into the living, putting him in as a hero for you.

I'm not convinced that there'll be too many, if any, known/named heroes in this one, and that's a shame (I think all the heroes here will be for driving this story specifically). However, it was mentioned that there would additional lesser content in the interim between Eye of the North and GW2. How cool would it be to get a batch of top-level NPCs as heroes?

- King Adelbern
- King Jalis Ironhammer
- Duke Barradin
- Evennia
- Count Petrov zu Heltzer
- Elder Rhea
- Suun (we need the hat!)
- Dehjah (in elemental form)
- Shahai the Cunning
- The Apostate (Margonite!)
- Prince Ahmtur the Mighty

Since, by the end of Eye of the North, I think we'll be enough of well-to-do hero types to have some nobility on call.

Quest to get Gwen the hero:

"Bring me the Tapestry Shard from my childhood."

One: I've been acknowledged by Gaile, I can die happy now.

two: for those wondering about the use of multiple heroes and their use I have one thought, anybody want to solo UW or FOW with a 4 ranger trap team?

three: Gender options would be cool. I like the idea of my female toons being able to go run around with an all girls team and sometimes the guys would like to have the whole "he-man women hater" club going too.

four: I keep focusing on old prophecies characters for this just because it's the closest continental landmass to the expansion. there are a couple of NPCs we don't see from presear in post that are assumed dead but not mentioned. Any of those could turn up.

five: I just had another idea for the Ritualist, what about the young boy that is outside post sear ascalon in the ghost quest the Avatar of Dwayna grants when you have favor? He'd make a perfect Rit.

Gwen was a monk in pre. Maybe shes a mesmer now but I dont know.
As far as more heros, I am, ok with it but i dont use half of the ones i already have. I hope we get verata as a hero. then i can dump master.

~the rat~

I just saw the picture that everybody thinks is Gwen and I have to say - I think she has monk armor on. The skirt-and-pants combo is very monk-ish, the soft draping of the fabric, the tunic-like shirt with a camisole underneath....all very monk-like.

Mesmer armor is always very structured, very tailored, very polished. Even in Elona, where a lot of the diff. classes get kind of loose/casual armor, the mesmers are running around in formal attire.

We know that NPCs get special armor, and we know that Gwen liked mesmer armor but had healing spells...my guess is that she has a slightly tricked-up version of whatever the new monk armor is going to be.

(I have a sneaking suspicion that most of the people who thought her armor looked mesmerish were guys who looked at the picture, thought "Uh...green. Mesmer!" and congratulated themselves on their sartorial insight.)

Regarding the "50 pve only skills" and heroes, I have a sneaky suspicion that possibly some of those skills might be for a hero with an exclusive profession.

I think this because of the girl, the norn from the bear artwork, that anet is using to promote GWEN. When I first heard of 50 pve only skills I thought how many pve only skills can they make? I mean they could do 50 skills that would change how classes work in pve but not include them in pvp so as not to mess up the pvp dynamics, but after more thought doing something like this kind of goes against the whole pve connected to pvp vibe they like to push.

So the idea of a hero that maybe previews a new profession for GW2 by giving them so many pve only skills would not only be cool, but make sense.

Wrong, i think it was Alex that said that its 50 all together,5 for each profession,so no special hero.

Here's Gwen as a Mesmer:
enemy casts meteor shower, enemy cast phoenix, enemy cast fireball....you almost die, enemy casts fire attunement which gwen somehow interrupts in the blink of an eye....

some assumptions were taken based on Gwen's pre sear AI...

As long as she goes "My name is Gwen and i don't like yooou!" wile fighting it will be worth the wait.

Buff up some hero commands, add additional ones

call them Precautions under the H under heros name

3 slots which increase with levle to a maximum of 6

think of it like FF Xii's gambit system

so that you can say

interrupt ele> Firemagic/damage spells/Aoe

interrupt> enchants

attack > monks

and put like in order of need so they always consider one command more important then other like healing.

oh and the gwen thing

give her a monster skill called LoL

it pauses the game you see a scene where gwen does like a bunch of attacks and it does nothing to the enemy

For the life of me I can't stop thinking of the yoda vs dooku fight now, crazy bouncing midgets with deadly weapons abound!

Or maybe just max from sam and max, gnawing on the enemy's shin bones.

Giving Zhed his saddlebags scenario = Funniest thing on earth!

As far as Gwen goes, well there is so much space around her that it would be entirely possible to make her into anything in the upcoming expansion. Personally, though, I do hope she is evil! It would make the game so much more interesting to have a twist like that.