Eye Of The North Eligibility

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

Will we need to have completed one of the campaigns for our characters to take part?

Because it said something like 'this is a time for heroes; heroes who have defeated the Lich, sent Shiro back to the Mists and chained a God'.

I know it's only for max-level characters, but does it have a requirement of completing a campaign?

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Shouldn't have to have actually completed it.

tijo

tijo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Montreal

[CDDR]

R/

No one knows for sure since the game isn't out yet and there is little information about it. Basically wait until that information is out because right now, the only thing you can do is speculate.

Edit: Now on the speculation side, i'll go with Sith.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Since it is an expansion, it won't have a newbie area - so my guess is that while you won't have to have completed any of the chapters, you will need to be at or around 20th level to do well in EotN.

Kuldebar Valiturus

Kuldebar Valiturus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Garden City, Idaho

The Order of Relumination (TOoR)

R/

The only thing mentioned thus far was "owning" at least one chapter of the trilogy.

If ANet's design holds true, access to new content will be very much like what is already established: A certain in-game location within each campaign (ie. Lion's Arch, Kaineng City, Kamadan) will act as a portal to the new material. Keep in mind, the new expansion is geared toward level 20's so this may influence where the access point in each campaign area is located.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

My guess would be ascended characters only.

Actually completing a campaign sounds very limiting.

Does-it-Matter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

All it said, if I remember correctly, was that it was going to be level 20 content-only, so only Heroes need apply.

Basically, it's going to be for high-end characters, there will be no training. That does not infer that you need to complete the game, but who knows between now and the "holiday" season.

Rothaga

Rothaga

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

D/W

Ya, i'd have to go with Onarik. Usually only high-level characters ascend, and as you see with FoW and UW, they can restrict what you do if your ascended or not. Since the ability is already there, I think it is easier for them to determine if your ascended or not.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

It's not even that hard or time consuming to get Ascended anyway. Nahpui Quarter is what? The 4th mission in Cantha? Also the Hunted! quest you get after stepping on Kourna. Ascending in Prophecies would take a bit longer though.

tommarrow

tommarrow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shyft Machine [MYTH]

E/

Think of this expansion as the SF addition for Prophecies. All you had to do was reach the area to get in but you would have a easier time if you were lv20. Now the titan add on required you to actually finish the game before you could access that part of the storyline since it was a continuation of the story.

Kuldebar Valiturus

Kuldebar Valiturus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Garden City, Idaho

The Order of Relumination (TOoR)

R/

I am currently in the Realm of Torment and Raisu Palace portions of Nightfall and Factions, I still am convinced that Prophecies is the most challenging of all the Campaigns. Mainly, I am referring to the time span it takes to get a character from Pre-Sear all the way to Ascension.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

Yeah Prophecies Ascension is the hardest IMO.
Thanks for all these answers guys. It pretty much summed up what I was thinking - Ascended lvl 20, but not through a campaign

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

I feel like going against what everyone else is saying here (not to be argumentative though) just because how it's phrased. The fact that it says you have to have beaten Lich, Shiro, or Abaddon and that "heroes" only need apply hints at least to me that you have to have beaten one of the games. Think about it: you're not truely a hero until you do something truely great (IE. beat Lich, Shiro, or Abaddon). Plus, since GW:EN is meant to tie up the story even more, I think it would make more sense that you need to have beaten the game so you have at least a decent understanding of what the story is about, like the Titan Quests in Prophecies. I wouldn't mind having it so you don't have to have beaten one of the games, but it just looks like you do from the clues I'm getting.

Kuldebar Valiturus

Kuldebar Valiturus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Garden City, Idaho

The Order of Relumination (TOoR)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGmaniac
I feel like going against what everyone else is saying here (not to be argumentative though) just because how it's phrased. The fact that it says you have to have beaten Lich, Shiro, or Abaddon and that "heroes" only need apply hints at least to me that you have to have beaten one of the games. Think about it: you're not truely a hero until you do something truely great (IE. beat Lich, Shiro, or Abaddon). Plus, since GW:EN is meant to tie up the story even more, I think it would make more sense that you need to have beaten the game so you have at least a decent understanding of what the story is about, like the Titan Quests in Prophecies. I wouldn't mind having it so you don't have to have beaten one of the games, but it just looks like you do from the clues I'm getting.
Well, does it say that? Is it a fact?

I don't have the article, if it says:

Quote:
...you have to have beaten Lich, Shiro, or Abaddon and that "heroes" only need apply...
Then, case closed. I was unaware that information was there. Those words make it fairly apparent what the entry requirement will be for a character to gain access to the content.

It makes sense, now that I consider the fact that the new content is supposed to tie up loose ends from the trilogy's story arc.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Wars.com
Players will be able to take existing characters from any of the previous Guild Wars campaigns into Guild Wars: Eye of the North. There, they will find adventures and encounters worthy of battle-hardened heroes who have faced such adversaries as Shiro and Abaddon as they seek to uncover the mystery behind the great earthquakes. The Eye of the North expansion contains only max-level content. There's no time to train raw recruits; no time to study with great masters. Only heroes need apply.
It's on the official Guild Wars website: Here is the link. True, it doesn't say flat out "You must have beaten (insert evil villain here) to enter", but it's hinted to very strongly.

Aerian_Skybane

Aerian_Skybane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

House of Caeruleous [HoC]

R/E

NM answered it myself. Ignore me.

thelastwolf

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

You don't acsend in NF. Completing Building A base: Prisoners of War" quest will let you change professions. (I think thats the quest)

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

There are a few things that lend EoTN to be for characters that have completed a campagin:

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArenaNet
In the face of Tyria's greatest challenges, heroes have arisen to thwart the forces of darkness. The Titans have been driven back to the demon realms, Shiro has been unmasked, and Abaddon has fallen.
Those three things occur in the last missions of each game - therefore it is logical that EoTN takes place after the storylines. Would that mean that characters need to have completed a campaign?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArenaNet
There, they will find adventures and encounters worthy of battle-hardened heroes who have faced such adversaries as Shiro and Abaddon...Only heroes need apply.
This could be interpreted two ways - heroes who have literally faced Shiro, Abaddon etc. or just for characters from those campaigns.

There are two things that suggest EoTN will be for existing characters (max level characters)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArenaNet
Guild Wars players will soon be able to embark on a journey that will take their existing characters into the treacherous reaches north of the Shiverpeak Mountains.
This specifically says existing characters, which probably means all existing characters. Also, it would be a fairly weak expansion that was only for characters that have completed a campaign. There are many level 20's, few of whom have actually finished a campaign.

Darko_UK

Darko_UK

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

England

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kuldebar Valiturus
I am currently in the Realm of Torment and Raisu Palace portions of Nightfall and Factions, I still am convinced that Prophecies is the most challenging of all the Campaigns. Mainly, I am referring to the time span it takes to get a character from Pre-Sear all the way to Ascension.
2 hours? Right

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darko_UK
2 hours? Right
haha yeah , but I'm sure he was talking about most people who played GW ch1 for the 1st time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by guildwars.com
There's no time to train raw recruits; no time to study with great masters. Only heroes need apply.
lol anet, might as well just put in "No Noobs allow!". I rather like the idea that you have to finished at least 1 chapter before you are allow to get to GW:EN.
I mean ascended in GW1 was ace (for the 1st time) and in Factions became closer to the star was good also. But in Nightfall, exterminated bugs and that's it? I mean C'mon!

MrTumnus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/R

I'm sure you wouldn't have needed to complete the game despite where it takes place. Remember that Nightfall takes place after factions, which seems to have a somewhat parallel timeline with Prophecies. if you didn't complete either of the first two campaigns, you could still complete nightfall; Shiro and the Lich would still be in the Realm of Torment as if you killed them because even if you didn't kill them in previous campaigns, other people did...over and over again.

So, no. I don't think you'll need to have completed any of hte games to be able to play the expansion, though I wouldn't mind seeing ascension a requirement tho (you need to ascend to get into UW, so why not?).

Kuldebar Valiturus

Kuldebar Valiturus

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Garden City, Idaho

The Order of Relumination (TOoR)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darko_UK
2 hours? Right
I am certainly not talking about being "ran" anywhere.

The lead time in Prophecies to get a character Ascended is huge when compared to Nightfall and Factions.

Part of this is because by the time you reach Lion's Arch you probably aren't even level 20 yet and you don't have ready access to max armor.


Concerning the prerequisite for the expansion content:

I am becoming convinced that your character will be required to have completed at least one campaign. This makes sense from a game design and story-line perspective as well the interpretation of what the website states.

mikbal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

GWEN requires at least one main game

squan

squan

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

Rotterdam (The Netherlands)

Rotterdam Pride

Mo/

well i think it is not needed because you wont need have all 3 campains
so i think you need to some kind of quest to move to new area

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Despite the "flavor" text.. (and that's all it is. Or do people really think you need to actually complete the Titan quest to access Eye of the North?)

I do not think you will have to be ascended, or even level 20 to access the core of Eye of the North. Now, that's not to say that being level 20 wouldn't be prudent (the content wil be scaled to level 20), and that their might be special quests or places you only have access to once your Ascended (like FoW or UW), but I don't think you'll be locked out of the entire Campaign.

Case in point: Remember when Factions first was announced? People assumed you needed to be Ascended if you wanted to bring a Tyria character over to Cantha.

But, that wasn't the case. And I doubt there will be any hard requirements, except owning an existing Chapter, to access Eye of the North.

RPGmaniac

RPGmaniac

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

mikbal, we already know GW:EN requires at least one game to play, that's not what's in debate. Also, I really hope nobody is thinking you have to have beaten the Titan quests to get to GW:EN, because that would just be cruel. I just assumed "beating the game" just meant beating Hell's Precipice.