Guild Wars vs Windows Vista

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

I am running GW on a Gateway GT5426E with Vista Home Premium 32-bit. System specs: Athlon 64 X2 5000+, 2GB DDR2 RAM, nVidia GeForce 7600GS 256MB card. I did format C and remove all the Gateway retail crap. I now get much better fps (~76 in quiet towns, ~40 in busy areas) and smoother gameplay. I hate my sound though. I do need to fix that.

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Komradkyle
wow I don't hear anything good about vista when it comes to things working. I'll wait for next windows version.
I dunno, everything's worked great for me, from my x1950 to my surround sound headphones.

I think the only thing I don't have working is my zboard, and that's because ideazon's been slackers about drivers (they might be there now, though, haven't checked in a bit).

So yeah, working awesome for me.

redant751

redant751

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

NYC,NY

Gods Special Forces (GSF)

R/E

Guild wars works fine (3000 + Athlon64,320 GB hard drive, NVIDIA GeForce 7800GS 512MB,Sound Blaster Live and vista basic)now if sound blaster would get off there butts and give me drivers for my sound card (so that my head set inputs work at last and I can finally use vent).

Sanai Keralin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Springfield, IL

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by redant751
Guild wars works fine (3000 + Athlon64,320 GB hard drive, NVIDIA GeForce 7800GS 512MB,Sound Blaster Live and vista basic)now if sound blaster would get off there butts and give me drivers for my sound card (so that my head set inputs work at last and I can finally use vent).
Is it necessary to get a head set/mic for GW?

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanai Keralin
Is it necessary to get a head set/mic for GW?
in a word? Nope

However, being in a guild with ventrilo and chatting makes it so much better an experience

Sanai Keralin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

Springfield, IL

W/E

Okay. If I should ever need one, I can take mine back from the hubby *lol*

redant751

redant751

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

NYC,NY

Gods Special Forces (GSF)

R/E

As stated by Lonesamurai a head set is not necessary,but being able to talk to your guild members while in game is definitely a plus.
I consider some of my guild members to be good friends ,thanks to be ability to talk to them threw Vent/Team speak I have been able to forge this friendship.
To recap a headset is not necessary but I would not play any online game with out one.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by redant751
As stated by Lonesamurai a head set is not necessary,but being able to talk to your guild members while in game is definitely a plus.
I consider some of my guild members to be good friends ,thanks to be ability to talk to them threw Vent/Team speak I have been able to forge this friendship.
To recap a headset is not necessary but I would not play any online game with out one.
Agreed, WPS has become a community guild since its inception during the betas of GW and now we cover a few other games and now are the back bone of my new radio station thats starting sometime in may (more info to come) of which, like my guild, Guild Wars will be the backbone for the station and I'm setting this up with officers from the guild that I now trust to set up a business with

but yeah, it all works with Vista and yes, yoink back your mic

Daedra Slayer

Daedra Slayer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

R/

Hey guys, just got the newest nvidia update, Guild Wars now runs without bugs and as smooth as a baby's bottom!

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

What newest nVidia update? Did they actually release a good driver?

Teelana Singh

Teelana Singh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

AFS

R/Me

Well, I had been running 158.18 beta and upgraded to the final release of 158.18. The game does look and run smoother than before. I have had a slight increase in FPS.

The only thing that is still wrong (and it has to be on Anet's end) is that whenever you minimize the game or change the graphics settings the FPS drops back like it was when they had the antialiasing bug with Vista. I know other people have reported this problem on the forums. Once they fix that, everything will be perfect!

kielus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

MU-Tants [MU]

unfortunately, nvidia doesn't give drivers to "Go" series, as they state the notebook manufacturer should get these drivers ;/ so i'm quite pissed now. anyways found the solution, no problems, gw runs smooth and wonderful.
nvidia drivers for vista are on main nvidia page, they run a project about nvidia driver conflicts with vista or so.
happy & joy + mic & headset are must for harder missions or just to chat around with friends.

shooshang

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

Heaven's Exiled

W/

I've played GW on Vista runs ok few conflicts but meh, vista really pissed me off though with a heap of other games so I got rid of it and went back to XP. But I loved the look of it so I downloaded a transformation pack that gives you the sidebar, cursor everything and you get the look of Vista with the XP base and runs sweet

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Any working solutions yet?

I still have like half of the performance I used to have in Win2000, even with FSAA turned off.

Win2000: [email protected] 2xFSAA = 60+FPS
WinVista: [email protected] noFSAA = 35 FPS

NForce 4 SLI mobo
AMD Athlon 64 x2 4800+
GeForce 7800GT 256 MB
2 GB DDR400
SoundBlaster X-FI ExtremeMusic

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Your FPS drops by nearly half when you turn FSAA OFF?!?!! shouldn't it go up?

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

Yes, under Vista the performance is WORSE with FSAA OFF than in Win2000 with FSAA ON.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper.nl
Yes, under Vista the performance is WORSE with FSAA OFF than in Win2000 with FSAA ON.
Ok, I ctually read that wrong initially... I read it that the figures were both under Vista...

But anyway, why is it that i actually had an INCREASE, as have a few others from upgrading to Vista, where as others have had a decrease?

iridescentfyre

iridescentfyre

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by redant751
Guild wars works fine (3000 + Athlon64,320 GB hard drive, NVIDIA GeForce 7800GS 512MB,Sound Blaster Live and vista basic)now if sound blaster would get off there butts and give me drivers for my sound card (so that my head set inputs work at last and I can finally use vent).
I'm 99% sure there will not ever be Vista drivers for the Sound Blaster Live. They aren't even doing drivers for their entire Audigy lineup, at least not for a while. The X-Fi series is the only Sound Blaster card that technically has Vista "drivers," if you could really call them that. Regardless, even with my X-Fi card, there is no hardware audio in DirectSound games like GW unless I use Creative's half-assed ALchemy solution, which basically emulated OpenAL sound in GW. It worked, but blah.. it caused a lot of headaches and crashes. Anyway, I just went back to XP Professional last night and noticed a +/- 15-20 fps jump in all games, not just GW. The only fix for this is likely going to be waiting a year or so for new drivers and new standardization.

redant751

redant751

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

NYC,NY

Gods Special Forces (GSF)

R/E

Have purchased a new system (HP) was too lazy to build one.
Amd Dual core 4200+,250GB hardrive,1 GB Ram and a ATI X800 (128MB)
Card for now. (Get a better one next payday).
I opted for windows Xp as Vista had way too many issues with all the other applications I was running. Will not consider Vista till the fix all the driver issues.
I can't recommend vista at this moment.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

sorry, what driver issues?

I see a lot of people screaming at how bad vista is when what they are screaming about is not the OS's fault...

Driver issues are the manufacturers and Microsoft are geeing them up to get things sorted for this very reason at the moment

there is nothing wrong with Vista, in fact, many of the XP issues aren't even a problem under Vista and the only piece of XP software i came free with my DvD drive anyway, so not a problem to me either

Hyper.nl

Hyper.nl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

Defending Fort Aspenwood

E/

I've tried many different ForceWare drivers, but I can't find one that gives a decent performance in GW under Vista.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyper.nl
I've tried many different ForceWare drivers, but I can't find one that gives a decent performance in GW under Vista.
Which Graphics chip are you using?

As the latest Nvidia ForceWare Release Version: 158.24 Release Date: June 1, 2007 works great under Vista 32-bit, as does the new nTune utility

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/winvi...158.24_uk.html in case you missed it

However...

Quote:
Originally Posted by NVidia.co.uk Driver Details page
Release Notes - 158.24
Control Panel User's Guide

NVIDIA is committed to supporting Microsoft Windows Vista on current and previous GPU generations. It's important to us that you have an excellent experience through the Vista transition, and driver development is the highest priority in our company.

We are working diligently to make sure we achieve and maintain the level of driver quality and reliability that NVIDIA is known for. Over the coming weeks NVIDIA and our partners, along with the industry, will continue to update Windows Vista drivers to ensure maximum performance on 3D applications and add feature support.

For those of you that are using Windows Vista and experiencing any problems, we've set up a website for bug reporting – http://www.nvidia.co.uk/vistaqualityassurance. Our product managers will be reviewing this information daily and will be contacting users to help resolve any issues they might be experiencing.

These NVIDA Windows Vista drivers are under development. This version is not fully optimized for full 3D performance and may not include all available features available on different operating systems. NVIDIA, along with the industry, is continuing to update its Windows Vista drivers to ensure maximum performance on 3D applications and add support for features. These drivers are provided "AS IS." NVIDIA MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND WHATSOVER AS TO MERCHANTABILITY, COMPATABILITY, PERFORMANCE, APPLICATION OR FUNCTION, AND DISCLAIMS ALL SUCH WARRANTIES TO THE FULLEST EXTENT ALLOWED BY LAW.
by NVidia's own admission these drivers aren't finished... So please, stop bashing Microsoft when Vista has been out for 5 months now and the graphics company admit that they haven't finished the damn drivers in the drivers release notes