Questions as obvious as these must have been asked before....
But what is the deal with Glint's eggs?
Their very presence doesn't make sense.
For Glint to have laid eggs (especially eggs that she would be protective of, implying they had young dragons in them), she must have got it on with a male dragon... but there are no male dragons.
If for whatever biological reason Glint had laid unfertilised eggs... then why would she have been defensive of them?
And assuming, by Glint's attitude, that the eggs do have baby dragons in them.... how the heck long does it take for them to hatch? Apparently Glint has been cooped up inside her lair for centuries.... if not millenia... and has she had the eggs with her all that time?
... And what will happen when they DO hatch? Will glint have to take maternity-leave from prophecising? Will juvenile uber-dragons take over the world?
Wait...
... Male dragon?
...... How long do you suppose Rotscale has been undead for?
Glint's Eggs
SotiCoto
Onarik Amrak
Maybe she just really likes scrambled eggs for breakfast.
Guildmaster Cain
Chickens lay eggs that are unfertilized... And all women ovulate I think.
But on the other hand, if you take one, she goes beserk, which would not be for no reason I guess. But that could also be answered with the above arguement by Amrak.
Maybe there are more dragons around, hiding in every grain of sand in the desert, just like Glint does... O.o I mean, if we don't see them, it doesnt mean they aint around. You dont see Glint untill you are ascended.
Ou and I just remembered there are a lot of Salt Spray Dragons in Cantha, though they seem to be from another sub-species. Or maybe her hubbie was just off to work that day we invaded her home and slapped her silly.
There are also species of animals that can collect the semen of the males and use it later. And there are species that can fertilize themselves if no other one of their race is present.
But on the other hand, if you take one, she goes beserk, which would not be for no reason I guess. But that could also be answered with the above arguement by Amrak.
Maybe there are more dragons around, hiding in every grain of sand in the desert, just like Glint does... O.o I mean, if we don't see them, it doesnt mean they aint around. You dont see Glint untill you are ascended.
Ou and I just remembered there are a lot of Salt Spray Dragons in Cantha, though they seem to be from another sub-species. Or maybe her hubbie was just off to work that day we invaded her home and slapped her silly.
There are also species of animals that can collect the semen of the males and use it later. And there are species that can fertilize themselves if no other one of their race is present.
Sophitia Leafblade
For all we know baby dragons or other dragons could simply be hidden from us so far.Then again considering Glint is a mystical being whats to say th eggs are also magical, What if Glint Was Trapped in the grain of Sand not of her own accord put was put there. Prehaps Glint infact is but one of a line of Dragons, once one dies a egg hatches and a new Glint or dragon is born to replace her, as a never-ending Curse type of thing. (which may or may not explain why Glints vision appears endgame even if you kill her)
Another possibility is that the Dragons are in a long term hibernation and Glint is the Guardian of the Eggs of the next generation of Dragons or possible they all died out in a mysterious way like they do every 100,000 years leaving just 1 alive to care for eggs until they hatch.
Or perhaps as mentioned above she just lays infertile eggs
Or perhaps just just doesn't like us touching her breakfast of self laid eggs, i mean shes got to eat some thing)
Another possibility is that the Dragons are in a long term hibernation and Glint is the Guardian of the Eggs of the next generation of Dragons or possible they all died out in a mysterious way like they do every 100,000 years leaving just 1 alive to care for eggs until they hatch.
Or perhaps as mentioned above she just lays infertile eggs
Or perhaps just just doesn't like us touching her breakfast of self laid eggs, i mean shes got to eat some thing)
SotiCoto
Glint eating dragon eggs would be some major kinda cannibalism. I'm not sure she'd engage in that, but I suppose we don't know.
I am fairly certain that it was mentioned somewhere in the official lore that Glint was the last living ancient dragon... so that effectively implies there are no males of her kind left. Kuunavang is an elder Saltspray Dragon... which as you can see by looking at her is something else entirely.
But given that I'm a sucker for a good tragedy, I'm still liking my own speculative notion that Rotscale is the re-animated remains of Glint's former mate.
I am fairly certain that it was mentioned somewhere in the official lore that Glint was the last living ancient dragon... so that effectively implies there are no males of her kind left. Kuunavang is an elder Saltspray Dragon... which as you can see by looking at her is something else entirely.
But given that I'm a sucker for a good tragedy, I'm still liking my own speculative notion that Rotscale is the re-animated remains of Glint's former mate.
gilgameshx
Some birds lay unfertilized eggs and will protect them from anyone that wants to take them.
Prefectus
she could be like godzilla and be able to produce young by her self
Guardian Rohan
guys guys guys...you guys are using your heads way to much...use your EYES.
dont you see that these are large CRYSTAL eggs.
-Glint's eggs are actually materials that are going to be used on rare armor in GW:EN.
-All Glint is doing is protecting these RARE materials so that they will be worth more than all the ectos, rubies, shards, and sapphs combined!
Glint is a trading genius!
WTS Glints Egg 100k+Your whole account
And btw...you gotta put 2 and 2 together...GW:EN doesnt stand for "guild wars eye of the north" it stands for
-Glint Will sell all of her Eggs because she lives North of the crsytal desert
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
ps. on a serious note...i remember reading in one of the posts about GW2 about a dragon flying overhead or somethin and that killing the dragon could change the course of your game or somethin...could be one of glints little babies.
dont you see that these are large CRYSTAL eggs.
-Glint's eggs are actually materials that are going to be used on rare armor in GW:EN.
-All Glint is doing is protecting these RARE materials so that they will be worth more than all the ectos, rubies, shards, and sapphs combined!
Glint is a trading genius!
WTS Glints Egg 100k+Your whole account
And btw...you gotta put 2 and 2 together...GW:EN doesnt stand for "guild wars eye of the north" it stands for
-Glint Will sell all of her Eggs because she lives North of the crsytal desert
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
ps. on a serious note...i remember reading in one of the posts about GW2 about a dragon flying overhead or somethin and that killing the dragon could change the course of your game or somethin...could be one of glints little babies.
greendc27
Maybe glint and kuunavang got it on.
Guildmaster Cain
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Glint eating dragon eggs would be some major kinda cannibalism. I'm not sure she'd engage in that, but I suppose we don't know.
I am fairly certain that it was mentioned somewhere in the official lore that Glint was the last living ancient dragon... so that effectively implies there are no males of her kind left. Kuunavang is an elder Saltspray Dragon... which as you can see by looking at her is something else entirely. But given that I'm a sucker for a good tragedy, I'm still liking my own speculative notion that Rotscale is the re-animated remains of Glint's former mate. |
But it is not stated which gods, since it is also a fact that the five and Abbadon took the place of their predecessor gods, it is unknown wether Glint was created by the Five and Abaddon or their predecessors who already created a lot of other beings.
SotiCoto
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Some birds lay unfertilized eggs and will protect them from anyone that wants to take them.
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I have yet to meet a bird who isn't.
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she could be like godzilla and be able to produce young by her self
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Asexually reproducing dragons though? ... Ew....
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guys guys guys...you guys are using your heads way to much...use your EYES.
dont you see that these are large CRYSTAL eggs. -Glint's eggs are actually materials that are going to be used on rare armor in GW:EN. -All Glint is doing is protecting these RARE materials so that they will be worth more than all the ectos, rubies, shards, and sapphs combined! Glint is a trading genius! WTS Glints Egg 100k+Your whole account And btw...you gotta put 2 and 2 together...GW:EN doesnt stand for "guild wars eye of the north" it stands for -Glint Will sell all of her Eggs because she lives North of the crsytal desert |
Meh...
Maybe Glint is really a man-dragon with a really effeminate voice, and so can dupe people into thinking he is a she..... and he didn't lay the eggs at all..... but rather was getting it on with Gwen .... who is actually a dragon in disguise.... and he was just lookin after the eggs till Gwen gets back.
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.... Or you could be right.
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Maybe glint and kuunavang got it on.
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So that would necessitate Glint being secretly male in order to get the eggs there.... Lesbian dragon-sex produces no eggs.
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'Glint was the first being created by the gods.'
But it is not stated which gods, since it is also a fact that the five and Abbadon took the place of their predecessor gods, it is unknown wether Glint was created by the Five and Abaddon or their predecessors who already created a lot of other beings. |
And Grenth made Rotscale to be her paramour...
I'm really throwing out crap now aren't I?
Div
Glint is virgin mary in disguise. She doesn't need a male dragon to have baby dragons...
Etta
There're male dragons alright, they just hiding from us right now. The same goes for female dwarf, thats why we never seen them anywhere.
As for those eggs, well mini pet dragon gotta come from somewhere y'know.
As for those eggs, well mini pet dragon gotta come from somewhere y'know.
SotiCoto
... Interesting idea...
Since I already have a mini-kuuny... I really need a mini-glint to go with it.
Wouldn't mind a mini-rotscale too... but I don't know anyone willing to part with theirs for less than a ridiculous amount.
Since I already have a mini-kuuny... I really need a mini-glint to go with it.
Wouldn't mind a mini-rotscale too... but I don't know anyone willing to part with theirs for less than a ridiculous amount.
Bankai
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Glint is virgin mary in disguise. She doesn't need a male dragon to have baby dragons...
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Etta
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She was obviously impregnated by Balthazar.
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BB King.
SotiCoto
... And the delightful censors come rampaging through and baleet a perfectly innocent post. Great.
*Makes an unseen, obscene gesture at the thought-police*
Still hasn't solved the issue of where Glint's Eggs come from (aside from the obvious answer of "from Glint")
I'm guessing it was an oversight on A-Net's part.
*Makes an unseen, obscene gesture at the thought-police*
Still hasn't solved the issue of where Glint's Eggs come from (aside from the obvious answer of "from Glint")
I'm guessing it was an oversight on A-Net's part.
Pick Me
Here's a theory,
Glint's Crystal Eggs are magically created by Glint to create (and hatched through normal "biological" means - keeping them warm until they hatch) Facets of Glint. To take one would cause her much grief, as she won't know which Facet will be missing until the others hatch. Then they all won't be equal, as she must recreate the missing one and thus, that one will be younger and be picked on by the others.
Another Theory,
Glint has been chosen to be the guardian of the remaining dragons and encased them in Crystal Eggs. They will be released when the next "Age Of Dragons" comes to pass.
The whole truth may be revealed somewhere in GW2?
Glint's Crystal Eggs are magically created by Glint to create (and hatched through normal "biological" means - keeping them warm until they hatch) Facets of Glint. To take one would cause her much grief, as she won't know which Facet will be missing until the others hatch. Then they all won't be equal, as she must recreate the missing one and thus, that one will be younger and be picked on by the others.
Another Theory,
Glint has been chosen to be the guardian of the remaining dragons and encased them in Crystal Eggs. They will be released when the next "Age Of Dragons" comes to pass.
The whole truth may be revealed somewhere in GW2?
Onarik Amrak
Imagine free-exploring the Crystal Desert in GW2 looking for the grain of sand. That'd be fun! ^^
Maybe Glint will show up in GW:EN or GW2. She's extremely long lived so it's definately possible.
Maybe Glint will show up in GW:EN or GW2. She's extremely long lived so it's definately possible.
Snype
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guys guys guys...you guys are using your heads way to much...use your EYES.
dont you see that these are large CRYSTAL eggs. -Glint's eggs are actually materials that are going to be used on rare armor in GW:EN. -All Glint is doing is protecting these RARE materials so that they will be worth more than all the ectos, rubies, shards, and sapphs combined! Glint is a trading genius! WTS Glints Egg 100k+Your whole account And btw...you gotta put 2 and 2 together...GW:EN doesnt stand for "guild wars eye of the north" it stands for -Glint Will sell all of her Eggs because she lives North of the crsytal desert duuuuuuuuuuuuuuh ps. on a serious note...i remember reading in one of the posts about GW2 about a dragon flying overhead or somethin and that killing the dragon could change the course of your game or somethin...could be one of glints little babies. |
Guardian Rohan
youre welcome
ShadowsRequiem
asexual reproduction
SotiCoto
As another random thought.....
Regardless of whether you kill Glint or not... you can't take her egg with you through the portal... and she should be smart enough to know this... so why would she even fret if you try to steal her eggs?
I'm betting the A-Net people were just trying to come up with something quickly for a bonus and didn't put any thought into it.... instead just playing on the classic dragon stereotype.
*Tuts*
Dragons do NOT asexully reproduce.
If they did then there would be dragons all over the place... much like other asexually reproducing critters (e.g. aphids... bacteria... etc)
Regardless of whether you kill Glint or not... you can't take her egg with you through the portal... and she should be smart enough to know this... so why would she even fret if you try to steal her eggs?
I'm betting the A-Net people were just trying to come up with something quickly for a bonus and didn't put any thought into it.... instead just playing on the classic dragon stereotype.
*Tuts*
Dragons do NOT asexully reproduce.
If they did then there would be dragons all over the place... much like other asexually reproducing critters (e.g. aphids... bacteria... etc)
Sophitia Leafblade
Some Lizards and Amphibians can reproduce Asexually so why not Dragons, the reason they arent everywhere is probably because they get hunted, the dont reproduce every often (once every 100 years) or there in hiding.
Not to mention lore about dragons often says that are 'magical' thus making it ever more likely they can produce in a special way like Asexually.
Not to mention lore about dragons often says that are 'magical' thus making it ever more likely they can produce in a special way like Asexually.
SotiCoto
... I'm not sure where you've been reading that, but you have your facts a little mixed up.
Some lizards and amphibians can change their gender under certain circumstances. That doesn't equate to asexual reproduction. They cannot reproduce without a member of each gender participant.
Asexual reproduction is the older, primitive means of self-replicating... It was replaced by sexual reproduction for the sake of promoting genetic diversity and safeguarding against significant genetic defects. There is no reason why as obviously complex a being as a dragon would reproduce asexually.... as it would essentially kill off the species through genetic faults.
And .... just for the record.... I'd reckon most dragons more than capable of defending themselves from hunters... and more likely to be doing the hunting themselves.
Some lizards and amphibians can change their gender under certain circumstances. That doesn't equate to asexual reproduction. They cannot reproduce without a member of each gender participant.
Asexual reproduction is the older, primitive means of self-replicating... It was replaced by sexual reproduction for the sake of promoting genetic diversity and safeguarding against significant genetic defects. There is no reason why as obviously complex a being as a dragon would reproduce asexually.... as it would essentially kill off the species through genetic faults.
And .... just for the record.... I'd reckon most dragons more than capable of defending themselves from hunters... and more likely to be doing the hunting themselves.
Guildmaster Cain
Ye if they can reproduce asexually, it doesnt mean they do it that often. Maybe she has a headache every night and isnt in the mood or something...
Sophitia Leafblade
You forget all the magical side of the world, Magical beings dont always need partners to reproduce, thats often whats gives them there magical status.
As for dragons being capable of defending themselves, sure they can, but if you look into alot of storys and myths and lores ull find the common theme that despite this they still get hunted not stop, all it takes is a few very successful hunters to destroy the population.
As for dragons being capable of defending themselves, sure they can, but if you look into alot of storys and myths and lores ull find the common theme that despite this they still get hunted not stop, all it takes is a few very successful hunters to destroy the population.
SotiCoto
Wishful thinking on the part of humans... making themselves out to be superior.... against a creature several times their size, capable of flight, naturally armed and armoured... and wielding a whole arsenal of nasty body-functions.... not to mention often more intelligent than they are.
*Yawns*
Not really the point though.
The "magic" argument is just a convenient Deus Ex Machina for situations like these. No matter how stupid something might be.... anyone can pull the "it's magic" card to explain it. It is just a fancy-pants way of saying "we have no bloody clue how it works" ...
Can't really argue.
*Yawns*
Not really the point though.
The "magic" argument is just a convenient Deus Ex Machina for situations like these. No matter how stupid something might be.... anyone can pull the "it's magic" card to explain it. It is just a fancy-pants way of saying "we have no bloody clue how it works" ...
Can't really argue.
Eldin
The eggs in Glint's room are definitely fertilized (or they don't require fertilization and already have an embryo developing - whatever). What few have noticed is that, if you look REAL closely at a dragon egg, you can see a little, silhouetted dragon inside it.
I still don't get why some people think the eggs create facets. I don't know why, but it doesn't seem right. She is willing to toss 6 facets at you without any complaints, so I don't see why she is so protective of the eggs (unless, and this is likely, that few ever reach Glint's lair, let alone slay the facets, making it a rare and irritating occasion in which she needs to make new ones).
Plus, as Sophitia added, we need to take into account all magical aspects. What if Glint didn't biologically lay those eggs (I wouldn't like sharp crystal eggs in my belly, then again Glint has real tough skin, though on the inside? Eww). Perhaps Glint is simply summoning clones/parallel universe dragons and you need something with a resonance frequence (even I'm not totally sure if what I'm saying is making sense) such as crystal to contain the portals as they form, otherwise there will be a huge, magical explosion a-la the Cataclysm.
I still don't get why some people think the eggs create facets. I don't know why, but it doesn't seem right. She is willing to toss 6 facets at you without any complaints, so I don't see why she is so protective of the eggs (unless, and this is likely, that few ever reach Glint's lair, let alone slay the facets, making it a rare and irritating occasion in which she needs to make new ones).
Plus, as Sophitia added, we need to take into account all magical aspects. What if Glint didn't biologically lay those eggs (I wouldn't like sharp crystal eggs in my belly, then again Glint has real tough skin, though on the inside? Eww). Perhaps Glint is simply summoning clones/parallel universe dragons and you need something with a resonance frequence (even I'm not totally sure if what I'm saying is making sense) such as crystal to contain the portals as they form, otherwise there will be a huge, magical explosion a-la the Cataclysm.
Villager
First of all, some reptiles do occasionally reproduce by parthenogenesis. There was a fairly recent case of a female Komodo dragon at the Chester Zoo in England giving birth without ever having been around a male. See the following link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16784022/
Secondly, there is at least one baby dragon in Guild Wars. Do the quest Goren's Stuff: Part 2.
Secondly, there is at least one baby dragon in Guild Wars. Do the quest Goren's Stuff: Part 2.
Captain Arne Is PRO
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Dragons do NOT asexully reproduce.
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Population can't be based purely on type of reproduction buddy.
Who says that Glint isn't an asexual being who can only lay eggs once every eight TRILLION years. Who says that the eggs will only hatch when the planet falls into the sun and the Underworld turns neon orange?
THIS IS A GAME.
FYI.
Solveig Ikram
One word: PMS
darkorical
Lets see we have Rotscale and 2 other large Bone dragons in Fow. All three of them are missing hind quarters. Perhaps Dragon mating rituals are like that of some insects, Where the female kills and eats portions of the males. This would also explain the excessive bad mood of the three big bone dragons. They got laid and killed all at once. "It was the best of times. It was the worst of times."
nekopowa
Discussing the origin of eggs? Are you bored? If you're bored you can farm for me, I could use the money.
Patrick Smit
many species are hermafrodites^, some even able to fertilize themselves. Don't see the reason why Glint couldn't perform such a feat.
Alternatively she could produce offspring in a apomictic* way
^: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermafrodite
*: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apomixis
Alternatively she could produce offspring in a apomictic* way
^: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermafrodite
*: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apomixis
darkknightdominator
The origin of the eggs is probably one of myth and legend. Maybe glint did mate with a male dragon, many thousands of years ago back when she was young and foolhardy, he called her pretty, and nice to talk to and then...she laid eggs. Hasn't seen him since. Point is, maybe the eggs dont hatch for a reason? or maybe they just have a several thousand year gestation period?
Barrett
perhaps she is a kind of dragon which just lays eggs?
(steals ideas from films :P)
like a self breeding lifeform
is there anythin like that in real life cuse i dunno but u just neverknow i mean
its not the real world u gotta think the unthinkable with GuildWars
(steals ideas from films :P)
like a self breeding lifeform
is there anythin like that in real life cuse i dunno but u just neverknow i mean
its not the real world u gotta think the unthinkable with GuildWars
darkknightdominator
Thats what asexual means. Self breeding. The ability to reproduce without a second entity. Self replicate so to speak but not necessarily in the true sense. Slugs do it. They are asexual. they have kids...alone.
Maybe glint is a deformed slug?
Maybe glint is a deformed slug?
Onarik Amrak
Eeeew, Deformed Slug with wings... By the way this thread has gotten quite disturbing in a sick way. Lets just end it with "she likes eggs for breakfast" :P
Zelyoniy
I'll probably have a lot who disagree with this conjecture, and I'm not really thinking this is true, just a guess.
The Forgotten are her servants and practically worship her. Perhaps she is their "queen". Not saying that she actually reproduces with Forgotten male, but rather she is taking care of their eggs, and teaching them, training them, and nurturing them from birth.
I know this doesn't explain the fact the embryo in the eggs look like Mini-Glints, but this is just a guess.
The Forgotten are her servants and practically worship her. Perhaps she is their "queen". Not saying that she actually reproduces with Forgotten male, but rather she is taking care of their eggs, and teaching them, training them, and nurturing them from birth.
I know this doesn't explain the fact the embryo in the eggs look like Mini-Glints, but this is just a guess.