personal opinion: judge offensiveness of guild name-

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

"Battery Powered Best Friend [Vibe]"

offensive? inappropriate? do you think this name is deserving of a ban?

I'm asking because the day after we receive silver capes we all log in to see our tag as [ban], our rank as N/A.. obviously, banned.

I just want to know some people's personal opinions, do you think this guild name is honestly offensive enough that it deserved a ban?

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Obviously it's an adult themed name but I dont think it's offensive.

Parson Brown

Parson Brown

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

In ur base...

The one true [Hope]

E/

I wouldn't call it offensive, seems fine for a "Teen" rated game.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

whoever did that needs to lighten up and go out for a walk

gg anet

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

I'm not at all offended by it but after seeing some of the names friends have had deemed offensive I really am surprised this didn't happen to you guys sooner.
Would be nice to know what they base this on as well.

P.S. GG on the tourney

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

The thing is, our opinions don't matter. Someone was offended and reported the name and someone at ANet agreed with them. Suck it up and deal with it, or get out of the pool.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
Obviously it's an adult themed name but I dont think it's offensive.
Guilds with adult themed names aren't allowed. It doesn't matter if you think it's offensive...this appears to be more "the letter of the law."

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

҉ ̵̡̢̢̛̛̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟&#

N/E

Only took 2 years for it to happen.

Anet's renowned efficiency!

drago34

drago34

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2005

California

Looking for good PvE guild ...

A/

What one person doesn't see offensive, others may and probably will.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Considering the name has been around for awhile, I don't see why it should suddenly be a problem now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Guilds with adult themed names aren't allowed. It doesn't matter if you think it's offensive...this appears to be more "the letter of the law."
Quote:
Originally Posted by EULA
which NC Interactive deems at its sole discretion to be vulgar or otherwise offensive.
Actually, it just matters what Anet considers to be offensive.

This thread doesn't have a whole lot of purpose - as, like banning, this is completely out of the control of the community. Regardless, as it's just testing opinions... it exists.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Offensive, no. Inappropriate, to some, maybe.

Or maybe some Vibe hater did report you and got you banned based on your guild name (which has been since 0.75 years or more).

Next time, make it wholesome like, Your Private Dance Instructor [Sexy]

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Damn ULGG people, they complain about everything fun. This is stupid, Vibe have been around for MONTHS, why ban them now?

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

I call gender discrimination.

Um. I speak in jest, but then, I'm also kinda serious. If they haven't banned lost my virginity to Gwen (also an awesome name) why did they ban the battery powered one?

Apparently pedophilia is just fine but women taking their sexuality into their own hands, ahem, is not. Boo.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Doesn't offend me at all, but if an adult themed name is against the rules theres nothing you can do. I really don't see why ANet had to get rid of your rank, they could of just changed the name.

RSGashapon

RSGashapon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Sol 3

R/

I've seen worse player names, countless variations and intentional misspellings of swear words and racial slang, and this is a ban-able offense? Wow... just wow.

It's not offensive, just mildly amusing. Someone really needs to lighten up.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Guilds with adult themed names aren't allowed. It doesn't matter if you think it's offensive...this appears to be more "the letter of the law."
I didnt say it mattered what I thought. I said that it was obviously an adult themed name BUT I didnt think it was offensive. I dont see how my opinion meant that we should buck "the letter of the law"

fog_of_redoubt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

It doesn't offend me personally... But I have a daughter, and several nephews playing this game, they are teens.

In the context of trying to play this game with family members that IS offensive.

Open your eyes and see the bigger picture.

To the OP and others that choose names like this... Why? Why did you feel the need to choose THAT name? Regardless of your opinion on its offensiveness, Why? Did you think it was "cute"? Did you get a kick out of it?

Guild names, character names, and general language in this game would make you think it was 90% 10-12 year old boys, maybe it is.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
To the OP and others that choose names like this... Why? Why did you feel the need to choose THAT name? Regardless of your opinion on its offensiveness, Why? Did you think it was "cute"? Did you get a kick out of it?
Ask the guild leader, not him.

JR

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Absolutely ridiculous.

This Guild has participated in tournaments, it has been on the front page of the ladder, it has been around for a long time. Some over-sensitive tool decides it might be a bit offensive, and BAM! Taken down like you just knocked over Terry Tate's last protein shake.

Battery Powered Best Friend [Vibe]

Tell me, how would anyone who does not know what a 'Vibrator' is find that name offensive? If they already know what a Vibrator is, why is it a problem? Is Anet trying to cater to people who want to shut their eyes and ears to all of the 'bad' things in the world and pretend they don't exist?

It is ridiculous. This ULGG: Honor Watch nonsense really, REALLY needs to stop. DO NOT CATER TO THE INEPT.

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

EDIT: Screw my post...

Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
Absolutely ridiculous.

This Guild has participated in tournaments, it has been on the front page of the ladder, it has been around for a long time. Some over-sensitive tool decides it might be a bit offensive, and BAM! Taken down like you just knocked over Terry Tate's last protein shake.

Battery Powered Best Friend [Vibe]

Tell me, how would anyone who does not know what a 'Vibrator' is find that name offensive? If they already know what a Vibrator is, why is it a problem? Is Anet trying to cater to people who want to shut their eyes and ears to all of the 'bad' things in the world and pretend they don't exist?

It is ridiculous. This ULGG: Honor Watch nonsense really, REALLY needs to stop. DO NOT CATER TO THE INEPT.
QFT.

Rakeman

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

You have to be 13 or older to play this game. Most 13 year olds listen to music far worse than your guild name.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

I don't find the guild name offensive at all. What I do find offensive is that this isn't the first time a guild has placed highly in a tournament only to find themselves on the receiving end of a ban.

I also want to know what ULGG is.

Crotalus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ernada
What's ULGG? Thanks.
http://www.ulggofgw.com/

They are the honor watchers of Guild Wars. If your are cursing, being rude, etc then they will report you to Anet.

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Bah, I'll let this one go, and we'll see how it goes. It's really been a while, and this name is a bit different.

Once again, though, I will point out that it's best to direct arguments towards the people that can actually do something, personal opinions aside.

And since I'm not acting in a moderator position at this moment, I'll give my personal opinion on the matter; It doesn't really bother me in the least, and I don't think I'd worry about it in regards to children if I had them, in the same sense as many jokes in "children's" cartoons have veiled innuendo obviously aimed at older individuals.

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

To be honest, I thought the name was about the Energizer bunny.

Phantom Flux

Phantom Flux

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2006

New York City

Phantom Flux (FLUX)

A/

I think whoever reported you guys must be someone jealous and whoever the anet staff that banned you must be a spiteful, miserable, and powerstruck nobody who one or the other happen to be on the team your guild defeated. Take in mind the majority of the GW community are fat. ugly and got nothing real going on except for GW so don't be surprised whoever might have done this to your guild was being cutthroat.

There is nothing offensive about the guild name and the people responsible for causing your guild this mess must got nothing else to do. The tag name is cool: Vibe. Vibe is the name of a major music magazine. Vibe is also used to describe something musically inclined.

With the hardwork you guys did for the silver capes you should in all means to find someone (maybe Gaile Gray?) and rectify this arrogant mess.

I think you should definitely report and fight to get what you earned back. Don't listen to anyone that tells you nothing is impossible.

Get your silver capes back.

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

fog_of_redoubt: it doesn't make sense to get offended by the name on behalf of your teenaged relatives, and then declare that a pre-teen sensibility gave rise to the name to begin with.

Grrr.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

I had no control in the naming of the guild, and it's been around for a LONG time.. they held halls for hours and nothing was ever said. I just don't understand why now they decide it is against whatever rule, after all this time, after a cape was just awarded from tourney.

I hope & believe we have the option of changing the guild name, but not sure as our leader signed on late and at his time of logging off, didn't get an e-mail back, I think.

I think it's pretty ridiculous that they wanted until NOW to do this and was just really looking for some justification. It could be said it's adult themed, sure, but it could also be about hey, the energizer..

and as JR put it, if you know what the name is referring to, what is the problem? People who honestly have no idea what the name could possibly be referring to probably assume it is about the energizer bunny!

crimsonfilms

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Just utter stupidity on ANets part [shocker there].

It is not even overt. It is an inside joke and only offensive if you already know the joke.

Not only that, it is quite abstract.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crotalus
http://www.ulggofgw.com/

They are the honor watchers of Guild Wars. If your are cursing, being rude, etc then they will report you to Anet.
Ah thanks. So how is it known that they report people? I was expecting a prime directive of "reporting offensives" on their page but I didnt see anything.

Personette

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2007

Or CELL PHONES! Kids get real attached to those these days.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rakeman
You have to be 13 or older to play this game. Most 13 year olds listen to music far worse than your guild name.
And you must be an 'adult [individual] 18 years of age or older', or have a parent/guardian to complete the registration process, to have an account at all.

Like JR said.. if you don't know about it, it's not direct enough to cause a problem. If you do, where is the problem?

countesscorpula

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Gwen Is [EVIL]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juicey Shake
"Battery Powered Best Friend [Vibe]"
What? This isn't refering to a tamagotchi? Your very own battery powered pocket pet?

My point being, it's only adult if you already know it's adult. Kinda like that Picture of the leaping dolphins painted on the jug, that also looks like a man caressing a nude woman from behind.
http://www.curiouser.co.uk/illusions...ns/dolphin.jpg
Kids unaware of sex/sexuality will only see the dolphins, whereas adults less naive will see the couple embracing.

Just my opinion, but I realise ppl have to draw the line somewhere.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Adding to what JR said, the scheduling issues that everyone had to deal with and not even giving them the chance to change the name.

Clinically Proven

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Australia

[MMAD]

Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
Absolutely ridiculous.

This Guild has participated in tournaments, it has been on the front page of the ladder, it has been around for a long time. Some over-sensitive tool decides it might be a bit offensive, and BAM! Taken down like you just knocked over Terry Tate's last protein shake.
QFT.

They've been around for so long its not funny, why ban them now. Just plain dumb.

RSGashapon

RSGashapon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Sol 3

R/

ULGG has a guild in their alliance named 'Pie Induced Ecstasy'... and I consider ecstasy to be an illegal, immoral and highly offensive recreational pharmaceutical.

Ban them.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Yeah, this is pretty much BS. Product of the stupid PC world we live in, now.

Personally, I can't find anything remotely offesive about it. It's a tad amusing, I got a chuckle, but not even in the ballpark as offensive.

Tea Girl

Tea Girl

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Mo/Me

I don't find [vibe]'s name offensive at all... =T

The Bloodrose

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

CA

Dark Order of Innoruuk [DOI]

R/Rt

Bottom line is this. Anet agreed with whoever found the name offensive. They banned the name. End of story.

And if you want to make a stupid name for guilds and characters, then I hope your name gets banned.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

People, please stop.

First of all, it's childish to try to place blame. "Oooh, someone got banned, let's blame Mikey!" We get reports every hour of every day. No individual or group makes up even 1% of the reports we get. No individual or group has special influence, or has their reports answered faster, or gets a surefire block for whatever they report. Many reports are reviewed and no action is taken.

I don't know about this guild. I've seen the name, and I've been a little concerned about it. (Not offended, just concerned.) I've been asked about it, and I've said that I thought it was really close to the edge and might be actioned, but I did not submit it for action and I confess that I would not have expected it to happen now, after the guild has been active for a noticeable time. Assuming that what is said here is accurate, and that it truly was a guild block for name, I will inquire about what caused this to take place. It could have been reported. It could have been observed by staff. I just don't know. I can tell you that renaming a guild is not possible -- there is no technology to allow that. One must, as the Old Knight said, "Choose wisely."

In the end, the decision about this block is not mine to make, and in fact the details are probably not something I can make public. But I will look into it and if it's possible to share, in the opinion of those who are on the Support Team, I will do so.

In the larger discussion of this topic, though: Those who report offensive names are doing a tremendous service to the game. You have not seen the names that are reported, or at least I hope that you have not. Sometimes it takes my breath away how stupid and unfeeling people can be, knowing that 12+ is the age for players. (Stupid, unfeeling, lame, pathetic, and a dozen other words for "loser," actually.)

There are words and names that you would not want your 12-year-old sister to see, nor the younger child who happens to be watching his/her older sibling or parent play the game. Names cannot be filtered. The filtering is all done, individually, by human beings. Trust me -- if you knew what I knew, you'd be grateful that human beings are taking the time to do it.