but i do agree and HATE the new small tiny bars
like i said in my other post, add a TINY option for those wanting smaller interface
small WAS perfect, it now sucks
[Dear Anet] Please FIX the party window interface health bars
Miss Eisei
or u can do like i do when monking in pvp, 1-8 on numpad for selecting teammembers, 1-8 above ur normal keys for skills
but i do agree and HATE the new small tiny bars
like i said in my other post, add a TINY option for those wanting smaller interface
small WAS perfect, it now sucks
but i do agree and HATE the new small tiny bars
like i said in my other post, add a TINY option for those wanting smaller interface
small WAS perfect, it now sucks
Moiax
I really like the new health bars, it takes up alot less space, which is why I use it on the small setting. I ususlly just use the numbers for the party members, so it didn't bother me when I was playing on my monk.
You also have the option of putting the interface on normal, but resizing the skill bar down if you want the bigger party window with everything else smaller.
You also have the option of putting the interface on normal, but resizing the skill bar down if you want the bigger party window with everything else smaller.
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If they're to small just lower your resolution a bit. Personally I have no trouble monking with the bars being a bit smaller than normal.
B Ephekt
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If they're to small just lower your resolution a bit.
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Arduin
Oh my, those smaller bars are simply horrendous. Changing interface size to medium or even large doesn't solve this either. It's like they're cut off form the top and bottom. If it ain't broken....
tork
i have mine set to normal and the bars are still ridiculously small...i tried monking aswell and clicking the little bars is just too much of a pain:S i would do that numpad thing but im on a laptop which doesnt have a numpad
the enemy health bar is also small although this can be customised (which i have done) but its just to out of proportion with the party health bars..
the chat window is also annoying me because it shows all the previous chat when u zone which makes it harder to tell when the events actually occured...i mean u can afk for 30 mins then zone and a message would still appear to be fresh not to mention the bottom of 'y' and 'g' and underscores dont show up
i tried switching my interface to large but everything else is just too big...i agree with all those people saying that the party health bars should be customisable or at least the option to revert it back to the way it used to be...seeing as some people like the new one... but i think was great before
the problems are easily fixed lets just hope that anet fixes them soon so i can get back to monking..and get back to zoning without being hassled by old messages
the enemy health bar is also small although this can be customised (which i have done) but its just to out of proportion with the party health bars..
the chat window is also annoying me because it shows all the previous chat when u zone which makes it harder to tell when the events actually occured...i mean u can afk for 30 mins then zone and a message would still appear to be fresh not to mention the bottom of 'y' and 'g' and underscores dont show up
i tried switching my interface to large but everything else is just too big...i agree with all those people saying that the party health bars should be customisable or at least the option to revert it back to the way it used to be...seeing as some people like the new one... but i think was great before
the problems are easily fixed lets just hope that anet fixes them soon so i can get back to monking..and get back to zoning without being hassled by old messages
unmatchedfury
f1-f8 buttons ftw. when i monk im total hotkey. intereface should have more optiosn whenever t he ychange it liek this. instead of forcing in on people.
leeky baby
i dont even see why they waste their time doing stuff, which people dont want.... just change it back or give us an option >.<
Brother Andicus
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As for the health bars, they are not broken as the thread title implies.
 If you prefer the old ones, by all means let us know, but this was a *very* small UI change, not a bug. Again, feel free to discuss it, we just didn't want anyone thinking it is broken/unintended.Also, this was a change to the "small" interface size, so the other interface sizes are unchanged. Playing in larger interface sizes will obviously increase the bar size, so you may want to try that if they are too small in the "small" size. |
Party Bars are too small
Text in chatbar is getting cutoff
XP Toolbar is flickering through from windows all the time.
allience
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f1-f8 buttons ftw. when i monk im total hotkey. intereface should have more optiosn whenever t he ychange it liek this. instead of forcing in on people.
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i hope people will read back my original post. i changed it, added better screen shots that will help all the non-monk players understand our problem.
rohara
i don't mind the smaller bars at all tbh (and i do quite a lot of monking and bipping). if anything, i'm happy the party window takes up less space. 
i've always found it to be unnecessarily large. my .02 anyway.
Ishtar Serket
I like the older version of the party bar more. Its now too small to easily click on a name as I noticed when monking earlier. The smaller party box isn't needed for monks since its not like we're watching everything else that happens much so it getting in the way of the action on screen doesn't matter. When I'm using another character I just moved the party box and shrunk its width and height.
karateckie
I like the new smaller party bars because when healing, more space between where my mouse is and where I want it to be means a longer time before I select the party member and heal them. I have my mouse set at the highest sensitivity (my mouse doesn't have a setting on it for added sensitivity as some do, I set it in the windows CP). Anyway, I can see it's a matter of preference for most people. Hopefully in an upcoming update we will be able to further customize the party window to what we want, since everyone has different preferences, play styles, etc.
DFrost
I personally like it. Looks better and I didn't notice a difference in efficiency when I was monking today.
Feathermoore Rep
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I like the new smaller party bars because when healing, more space between where my mouse is and where I want it to be means a longer time before I select the party member and heal them.
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I play on 1440x900. Widescreen. And small was the perfect size, for playing and for my eyes. Now the party bar is the same if not not smaller than the normal font size in guild wars. Thats even a notch down from the highest i can go.
But the fact of the matter is, the bar change was not necessary. If you pve and want a smaller bar just shrink its width or buy a better monitor.
HolyHawk
I kinda like the new one better, but I would sugest, in a future update, to make it customizable, so people who feel more confortable the old way, can change it back, like dmg numbers size.
TheRaven
ok, just my 2 cents here.
Personally, I love the smaller bars. I hate having the background blocked by a big 'ol party display. Most of the time I'll just close the party window if I'm not supporting my teammates.
On the other side, I have not tried monking yet since last night's update and I think that I will probably agree with most of the posters that the smaller size is inconvient for support characters.
Andrew, would it be a quick and simple change to add a party window style option in the F11 options panel? That way my warrior can have the small style and my monk can change to a bigger window.
Personally, I love the smaller bars. I hate having the background blocked by a big 'ol party display. Most of the time I'll just close the party window if I'm not supporting my teammates.
On the other side, I have not tried monking yet since last night's update and I think that I will probably agree with most of the posters that the smaller size is inconvient for support characters.
Andrew, would it be a quick and simple change to add a party window style option in the F11 options panel? That way my warrior can have the small style and my monk can change to a bigger window.
karateckie
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No offense but thats some down right BS. With windows speed at its highest setting, you wouldn't want them smaller for risk of overshooting the bar and click on someone else. And at max that speed is so minimal that between your reaction time and the computer/internet speed, it won't matter.
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"...I can see it's a matter of preference for most people. Hopefully in an upcoming update we will be able to further customize the party window to what we want, since everyone has different preferences, play styles, etc."
Feathermoore Rep
I mean i only say that because I've tried it on its highest setting before and the mouse flies across the screen on a single twitch. But i guess it depends on your mouse to. But whatever, your the one whose been playing with it so I'll just have to take your word for it. But it still seems odd that on the highest setting, it works better for you when its smaller than larger. *shrug*
Oh well. Just give us an option and it will make everybody and their eyes happy again.
Oh well. Just give us an option and it will make everybody and their eyes happy again.
lucifer_uk
Even as a ranger I find the bars annoyingly small now. I'm not even gonna try my monk because I was a crap healer before the change 
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1280x1024 btw.
.1280x1024 btw.
karateckie
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I mean i only say that because I've tried it on its highest setting before and the mouse flies across the screen on a single twitch.
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Oh well. Just give us an option and it will make everybody and their eyes happy again.
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Bryant Again
It's a big situation of "to each their own". I run Guild Wars at 1600x1200 with all settings maxed, and I'm not having much of a problem with the bars. So in effect, I have no problem with the bars.
It is a pretty weird thing to update...I dunno who thought that they looked too big, I was never really bothered with it.
And my question about higher interfaces causing lag hasn't been answered. Anyone know?
It is a pretty weird thing to update...I dunno who thought that they looked too big, I was never really bothered with it.
And my question about higher interfaces causing lag hasn't been answered. Anyone know?
Yanman.be
I play on Small Interface so I can see more. This new Party Window makes me see less, because I have to invest too much time in reading it. Make it scaleable please.
BowLad21
you really should have control over party window size. Even if you don't use it, ask for it for us monks.
Enchanted Warrior
Well fair is fair.. I went back to normal for my interface size and it is pretty much as it was. We'll see if I still have the eye strain issues.
creelie
You guys do realize you can change the size of the bars by changing the interface size, right? No change in resolution necessary.
BTW, I run a healing ritualist and a protection monk, and with the first I haven't had any trouble adjusting, and with the second I don't look at the party window anyway.
BTW, I run a healing ritualist and a protection monk, and with the first I haven't had any trouble adjusting, and with the second I don't look at the party window anyway.
Milennin
I love the new Party Window. Can make it smaller than before, still see all names and have more background.8)
Heaven is a Lie
oh-my-god...that new party window just kills my wish to play a monk..
Yichi
well after monking in HA for like 3 hours with the new party window, i didnt find much of a problem with it as i initially thought i would. I had only one occasion where i misclicked on a different name and missed saving a teammate. ive done that before on normal party window....
Celestial_Kitsune
Please fix the health bars! Reverse to the old ones and make them customizable. Current health bars are too small and my eyes hurt when I look at them because of color change.
Zappa
I noticed the aesthetic change but didn't notice any difficulty in playing my monk with the thinner bars. O.o What's really the difference? 0.5 milimeters? lol
I don't see the point of those who use these HUGE party windows taking almost half of the screen but...
I liked this change. Please give us more UI optimizations A.Net . =D
(not demanding though :P )
I don't see the point of those who use these HUGE party windows taking almost half of the screen but...
I liked this change. Please give us more UI optimizations A.Net . =D
(not demanding though :P )
explodemyheart
I don't like the new bars, but only for aesthetic reasons. Coming from someone who plays monk and pretty much only monk, I didn't notice I had a harder time finding the bars to click to heal. Though I was not infusing, so that might be a different story.
FelixCarter
I think it's all fixed now. If so, good jump on that, ANet. Kudos.
keistje
It's too bad they chose to put it back to the way they had it rather than giving us the option to customize. I really liked the smaller bars. When you have a party of 8, plus 8 pets, and then extra allies, you end up giving the entire right side of the screen to the party menu, if you want to see everyone. I'd much rather have the smaller bars, so I think customization is definitely a better choice.
Xenex Xclame
Thanks for revert Anet.
keistje : i believe they have said that the game doesnt allow them to give option, the same thing was asked back when the colors of activation bar and interrupts were changed.So I'm just glad that they reverted.
keistje : i believe they have said that the game doesnt allow them to give option, the same thing was asked back when the colors of activation bar and interrupts were changed.So I'm just glad that they reverted.
chembaron
I don't like the new party menu much myself but I've never had a problem with it. I support a movement for the old one though. /signed
allience
it's fixed now
ty Anet for listening to the monk pleas <3
ty Anet for listening to the monk pleas <3
Moiax
I would really love a way to change them to they way they were. I guess I'm the only one that liked them smaller though, so they will just call it a bug and revert it.
Gaile Gray
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I would really love a way to change them to they way they were. I guess I'm the only one that liked them smaller though, so they will just call it a bug and revert it.
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)And to those saying "Thanks," well, you're welcome.
Zappa
Lol they changed it back.
If a bunch of people made you change your mind (without even knowing what the majority thinks), now I ask you, dear A.Net, to make it customizable, to make everyone happy. Cool, huh?
You sure don't want to make some people feel like someone took a candy out of their mouths because others felt it was wrong, right?
That's why I know you will make it customizable.
Not everyone has big wide screens and high-end video cards to play in 1600x1200, you know? So a smaller UI really IS an option.
I really don't understand the difference of the smaller bars, since when you hover your mouse over the bars they are highlighted.
If a bunch of people made you change your mind (without even knowing what the majority thinks), now I ask you, dear A.Net, to make it customizable, to make everyone happy. Cool, huh?
You sure don't want to make some people feel like someone took a candy out of their mouths because others felt it was wrong, right?
That's why I know you will make it customizable.
Not everyone has big wide screens and high-end video cards to play in 1600x1200, you know? So a smaller UI really IS an option.
I really don't understand the difference of the smaller bars, since when you hover your mouse over the bars they are highlighted.