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Polynikes of Sparta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Ascalon Arena

Zero I Hour [ZH]

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05 Apr 2007 at 21:56 - 1

Bring [skill]Crippling Slash[/skill] and [skill]Gash[/skill] for 3 conditions, including a snare, on 2 hits. FTW!

~Polynikes

Stormlord Alex

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Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

05 Apr 2007 at 22:04 - 2

Now I don't have to lug around that bloody Sever just to get a DW on someone... (yes - Sever IS useless by itself)

Now... what to do with the free skill slot?
Mending?

Sk8tborderx

Jungle Guide

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06 Apr 2007 at 03:24 - 3

Why not apply poison to get -7 health degen, deep wound, AND a snare?

JR

Re:tired

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06 Apr 2007 at 03:58 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx

Why not apply poison to get -7 health degen, deep wound, AND a snare? Because Warriors don't have any viable and effective methods of poisoning a target?

If you suggest Apply Poison I will kill a puppy.

Sk8tborderx

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06 Apr 2007 at 04:33 - 5

EDIT: I had a brain fart and did not realize that it would require 2 elites.

Turbobusa

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By the Luxon Scavenger

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06 Apr 2007 at 05:04 - 6

^I wonder how

use of crippling slash?
[skill]Crippling slash[/skill][skill]gash[/skill] [skill]final thrust[/skill][skill]bull's strike[/skill][skill]healing signet[/skill][skill]frenzy[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill][skill]pious haste[/skill]
Now, compared to a YAA warrior?

I checked for the duration and yeah, it was increased to 21 seconds at 12 sword, bleeding is 13 at 12

placebo overdose

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

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06 Apr 2007 at 05:21 - 7

also when i looked the cripple was 21 secs isnt that 1/2 increase? idc bout bleeding

Coloneh

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06 Apr 2007 at 06:49 - 8

its actually worth taking every once in awhile now

Polynikes of Sparta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Ascalon Arena

Zero I Hour [ZH]

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06 Apr 2007 at 12:21 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by placebo overdose

idc bout bleeding You obviously don't see the synergy of this skill with Gash. An ideal PvP build:

[skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Swordsmanship: 12+1+1
Strength: 8+1
Tactics: 10+1

Can be played around with, though. I was wondering, since Crippled is 50% slower, can you possibly use Flail instead of Frenzy? I feel like I'm gonna get flamed, but just answer xD

~Polynikes

clawofcrimson

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06 Apr 2007 at 14:07 - 10

at least now we will see some viable sword builds in pvp now...

my new favorite elite... was using [card]"you're all alone!"[/card]

Richie

Academy Page

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06 Apr 2007 at 14:09 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polynikes of Sparta

You obviously don't see the synergy of this skill with Gash. An ideal PvP build:

[skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Swordsmanship: 12+1+1
Strength: 8+1
Tactics: 10+1

Can be played around with, though. I was wondering, since Crippled is 50% slower, can you possibly use Flail instead of Frenzy? I feel like I'm gonna get flamed, but just answer xD

~Polynikes

I believe you could use flail but you shouldnt use it untill you have crippled the baddie.

Sk8tborderx

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06 Apr 2007 at 17:03 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polynikes of Sparta

You obviously don't see the synergy of this skill with Gash. An ideal PvP build:

[skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Sun and Moon Slash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Swordsmanship: 12+1+1
Strength: 8+1
Tactics: 10+1

Can be played around with, though. I was wondering, since Crippled is 50% slower, can you possibly use Flail instead of Frenzy? I feel like I'm gonna get flamed, but just answer xD

~Polynikes I have found [skill]Dash[/skill] to work a lot better with frenzy than rush, since it has a fast recharge, and does not require adrenaline before you have a cancel stance ready.

I also do not think flail would be a good option since after the spike, or you would need to switch targets for whatever reason, the slowdown is just too much of a drawback.

Shaz

Krytan Explorer

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06 Apr 2007 at 18:24 - 13

Yea, Frenzy + Final Thrust = No Rush to cancel Frenzy

TheGrimReaper

Academy Page

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Mo/

07 Apr 2007 at 08:22 - 14

signet of malice any1? With you applying 3 conditions..., now a blindbot cant blind you all the time even with weakness as a cover....

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

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MO

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07 Apr 2007 at 08:43 - 15

sure they can, at least in a scrimmage situation, since you need to hit them first.

In a flagstand battle RC is going to clean everyone up unless you're applying a lot of conditions around (such as bringing a ranger) in which case sig malice would be good already.

But with so many warrior skills to pick, just make the midline remove blinds. That's what they're there for anyway, mirite?

Polynikes of Sparta

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Ascalon Arena

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07 Apr 2007 at 11:07 - 16

[skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill] OPTIONAL - SEE BELOW [skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill][skill]Signet of Malice[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Optional Slot-
Standing Slash: +42 dmg for 6 adrenaline (must have Frenzy up)
Galrath Slash: +43 dmg for 8 adrenaline
Sun and Moon Slash: Double Strike, unblockable for 8 adrenaline
Healing Signet: A signet that heals you...
Lion's Comfort: Good for a Tac/Str attribute split

HUH???

~Polynikes

Div

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07 Apr 2007 at 11:14 - 17

I still like the idea of mending touch as opposed to sig of malice (mainly since you need to hit them for the sig to work, and if you're blind you can't hit

)

You do lose out on dash though...=(

Polynikes of Sparta

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07 Apr 2007 at 12:32 - 18

Well, it's your choice... you can bring Mending Touch and Sprint or you can bring Signte of Malice and Dash xD. Since, I don't want to use Frenzy every 20 seconds, I choose the second one! Blind can be a problem, but as long as you can get CripSlash off, its 2 removals xD. ur choice, again.

~Polynikes

Polynikes of Sparta

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07 Apr 2007 at 13:08 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx

EDIT: I had a brain fart and did not realize that it would require 2 elites. Umm, what would? This build would work, but umm meh...

[skill]Apply Poison[/skill][skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Troll Unguent[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Natural Stride[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

swords at 16 ; WS at 11 ; strength at 7

i guess it would kinda sorta work LOL

~Polynikes

Corinthian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

07 Apr 2007 at 13:50 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polynikes of Sparta

Optional Slot-
Lion's Comfort: Good for a Tac/Str attribute split LC disables Signet of Malice for 12 seconds...

Sk8tborderx

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07 Apr 2007 at 14:12 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polynikes of Sparta

Umm, what would? This build would work, but umm meh...

[skill]Apply Poison[/skill][skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Troll Unguent[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Natural Stride[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

swords at 16 ; WS at 11 ; strength at 7

i guess it would kinda sorta work LOL

~Polynikes Now JR is going to kill a puppy.

Evilsod

Banned

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England

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07 Apr 2007 at 14:42 - 22

I'm starting to use Burst of Agression alot. Syncs nicely with the 'Lose all Adren' you get with Heavy Blow, Hammer Bash and Final Thrust and doesn't make you a sitting duck for armour ignoring/AoE attacks like frenzy does...

Edit: JR will have to kill a puppy for me too

Changed to Dash now, see how that version goes.

LightningHell

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07 Apr 2007 at 15:13 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polynikes of Sparta

Umm, what would? This build would work, but umm meh...

[skill]Apply Poison[/skill][skill]Crippling Slash[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Final Thrust[/skill][skill]Troll Unguent[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Natural Stride[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

swords at 16 ; WS at 11 ; strength at 7

i guess it would kinda sorta work LOL

~Polynikes Sorta work != Worth bringing

Note the difference.

Polynikes of Sparta

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07 Apr 2007 at 20:04 - 24

Yeah, I know. But he said it require 2 elites. I showed him it doesn't.

~Polynikes

Sk8tborderx

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07 Apr 2007 at 21:29 - 25

I said it required 2 elites because before I edited it, I had posted that I said it was for PvE, to make my ViM farming build better.

Polynikes of Sparta

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08 Apr 2007 at 16:10 - 26

Ah, the confusion of editing.

~Polynikes

Hundbert

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

21 Apr 2007 at 12:16 - 27

This works very well.

1 Frenzy
2 Crippling slash
3 Gash
4 Sun and moon slash
5 Shock
6 Rush
7 Conjure lightning
8 Resurrection signet

12+(2-4) Sword
8+1 Strength
10 Air magic

Good in a pressure build. Can get Final thrust in there but then i prefer another cancel stance than rush.
Shock does more than 50 damage with 10 airmagic.
No self heal but for use in the arenas like ta or guild battles.
Conjure lightning + Sun and moon does great damage vs most targets.

Sorry don't know how to use gwbbcode or whatever it's called

Apply poison on a warrior? 15 energy every 24 seconds with 2 pips of energy. No way. Run that as a ranger/warrior instead.

Ser Jaremy Ryker

Ascalonian Squire

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Ontario, Canada

The Crescent Hawks

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21 Apr 2007 at 16:17 - 28

I've found that shock and conjure generally doesn't sync very well (unless the match is short). Running exhaustion, you'll be able to cast conjure when you first engage, but it gets very difficult to maintain after. Trying to keep the energy high enough to consistently keep conjure up means you will loose out on the ability shock more often (I'm not advocating random shocking - the use must be tactically sound but sometimes you may need 2 in quick succession). Or, if you wish to shock more often you won't have enough energy to use conjure. Remember, Frenzy, Shock, then Sprint/Rush will cost 10-15 energy coupled with exhaustion. After a short period you may run into an equilibrium where you have to decide whether to save your energy for maintaining the shock combo or conjure. Your cycle-time will effectively go from 30 seconds to 45 seconds.

Either skill will work fine on its own, but I would consider maybe:

1) Frenzy
2) Rush
3) Shock
4) Crippling Slash
5) Gash
6) SteelFang Slash
7) Optional (Heal-Sig, Galrath Slash, FGJ, Bull's Strike, "Fear Me", "Watch Yourself", etc)
8) Res

or maybe...

1) Frenzy
2) Rush
3) Conjure
4) Crippling Slash
5) Gash
6) Sun-and-Moon Slash
7) Optional
8) Res