The past few days I have been handing out holiday and candy cane weapons/offhands to people for FREE. The only condition I put was Limit one per person.
I decided to do this for two reasons, one to get rid of the stuff, and two to see how the community would react.
Out of the 120+ items I gave away only about 10 people actually said thanks. That is about 1/10 of the people I gave items to. Even the person I actidentally gave 22 tonics to did not say thank you or try to return the items. A few people even tried to change characters to get more stuff. I think they did this based on similar character names and guild tags.
This really does not show the community being as respectful as it once was. I just thought I would share the results of my little experiment and see what the rest of you here thought about it.
Behavior Experiment in Guild Wars
kanaxais_scythe
Yaga Philipe
That's interesting, I think I'm going to try that out too (not taking away from your experiment, I just want to see what happens this time around)
It's sad that people don't even say thank you anymore. It takes a few hands movements (if your typing it) which is nothing. I could've said thank you 10+ times in the time it took me to type this (which isn't very long)
It's sad that people don't even say thank you anymore. It takes a few hands movements (if your typing it) which is nothing. I could've said thank you 10+ times in the time it took me to type this (which isn't very long)
Demilikos
I've been very fortunate and have had a lot of luck finding good people in the GW community. This is unfortunate, however. Being an online community where everyone hides behind their computer screens and sits lazily on a chair, being kind to others who are kind to you doesn't seem necessary to them.
kanaxais_scythe
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That's interesting, I think I'm going to try that out too (not taking away from your experiment, I just want to see what happens this time around)
It's sad that people don't even say thank you anymore. It takes a few hands movements (if your typing it) which is nothing. I could've said thank you 10+ times in the time it took me to type this (which isn't very long) |
Oofus
I give free stuff out all the time (well less and less often because so many people just suck) in low level areas and RARELY receive even a "ty". A few weeks ago, when the pigs were given out, I went to Ascalon and gave 10 or so away for free and I got 3 or 4 thanks, most people just accept the trade and run away. One person not only didn’t say thanks but instead he actually had the audacity to ask me to buy him armor. Very often when I offer to give stuff to level(X) and lower I get level 20s with Obsidian armor asking me if I'll give then the 2 dollar items I'm giving out.
onerabbit
i did the same, but with Zehluns longbow..as you get it all the time from farming the spiders..its not even worth selling, and i noticed the i gave 2 to the same guy, and after he carried on trading with me..
i got 2 thanks out of 6 bows..
i got 2 thanks out of 6 bows..
jrk247
Well, you will find out that more and more people playing GW are rude than they are kind, it has to do with GW being free and becoming popular which then attracts more kids (anywhere from 8-12 years old) because they don't have to pay for a monthly fee. And the more immature people playing GW shows the results of your test. I personally tried handing out free stuff, I handed out a bunch of mini pigs that I had, and I can't believe how many rude and ungrateful people play GW. It is quite sad, and when Gaile Gray lost her Lion Mask during the Canthan New Year and the guy that picked it up wouldn't give it back and tried selling it, it just shows how bad some people are. GW went from a somewhat enjoyable game to being a game full of rude people. Every day on GW there is always some one being a jerk and trying to scam you and I think Gaile got a taste of it when someone took her mask.
I'm glad that you took time to do a little experiment and I can only hope Gaile or some other Anet employee will read this thread and take action on these rude people and maybe change something about the game so it will have a more mature rating.
I'm glad that you took time to do a little experiment and I can only hope Gaile or some other Anet employee will read this thread and take action on these rude people and maybe change something about the game so it will have a more mature rating.
Yaga Philipe
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Gaile Gray lost her Lion Mask during the Canthan New Year and the guy that picked it up wouldn't give it back and tried selling it, it just shows how bad some people are.
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jrk247
No he tried selling it on a GW fansite a day or 2 after she lost it.
Darcy
If I remember correctly, he tried to sell it on a forum.
There is nothing ANet can do about a lack of manners. That's why the EULA doesn't mention them.
I often give away things free. I'll see someone looking for a few armor materials and I'll give them to that player at no charge. I'll give away better but still low req weapons in Ascalon. I gave away mini-pigs. I've given away gold in special cases. The list goes on.
I would estimate that I get thanked about 90% of the time. Some are extravagent (bows), some are just "ty", but the majority thank me. When I get one who doesn't (usually the free weapons), I just shrug and move on. They are not worth getting upset.
There is nothing ANet can do about a lack of manners. That's why the EULA doesn't mention them.
I often give away things free. I'll see someone looking for a few armor materials and I'll give them to that player at no charge. I'll give away better but still low req weapons in Ascalon. I gave away mini-pigs. I've given away gold in special cases. The list goes on.
I would estimate that I get thanked about 90% of the time. Some are extravagent (bows), some are just "ty", but the majority thank me. When I get one who doesn't (usually the free weapons), I just shrug and move on. They are not worth getting upset.
Silly Warrior
I've had the same experiences with people. Of a 100 who play, only really 1/10 of those people will have a conversation, be nice, or even response if you PM them. Its really, really werid.
Of course its odd to us, we're all on forums all day talking, but you forget about people who aren't NEARLY as social as people who use forums, like us.
So while I'm sure the people you tested were mostly not thankful, I bet if you got 100 Guru's we would be alot better, and be the ones saying thanks!
Of course its odd to us, we're all on forums all day talking, but you forget about people who aren't NEARLY as social as people who use forums, like us.
So while I'm sure the people you tested were mostly not thankful, I bet if you got 100 Guru's we would be alot better, and be the ones saying thanks!
Personette
The other day I was playing my baby ranger in Yak's Bend and somebody asked if any low level rangers wanted a green bow. I said yes, he opened trade and he gave me two really awesome green bows and 15k. Honestly, I have no idea how awesome on the scale of awesome they are - I never buy or sell weapons and I've gotten, I think, one green drop since I started playing GW. So, they are awesome on my scale of awesome.
I was so shocked I almost didn't accept it. But...er...I did, and I said thank you twice, and actually, I wanted to say thank you a few more times but I thought it might get awkward. So I went out to look at my bows. I did tell him that I'd try to pass on the good karma - and I will, I will give away at least one of the bows after I've played with it a while.
I almost wrote a post about this at time time because there's that thread about nice things that have happened to you, but I didn't want to dig it up from wherever it's been buried. But now there's this thread about people who are unappreciative, so...I'm posting it as a counter example, I am not only appreciative but delighted.
I was so shocked I almost didn't accept it. But...er...I did, and I said thank you twice, and actually, I wanted to say thank you a few more times but I thought it might get awkward. So I went out to look at my bows. I did tell him that I'd try to pass on the good karma - and I will, I will give away at least one of the bows after I've played with it a while.
I almost wrote a post about this at time time because there's that thread about nice things that have happened to you, but I didn't want to dig it up from wherever it's been buried. But now there's this thread about people who are unappreciative, so...I'm posting it as a counter example, I am not only appreciative but delighted.
Skye Marin
Whenever making the rounds through the Realm of Torment, I always save up my Margonite Masks and Demonic Relics. I'll get a few dozen and trade that in for a dozen max 15^50 spears and scythes. Whenever I hand those out, I find I get a solid 80% of folks will send back a "thanks". Maybe 5% get crazily estatic about it, like it's their birthday.
Sinful Purity
i neva got anythin free ... and neva gave anythin free cept to my guildies as im the treasurer and stuff ... and ur right no. of thank yous is goin down.
people think its our job 2 be helpfull n its their duty to make use of us or sumthin .. even guildies dont say thanks. On the other hand i always say ty even if its a purcahse ... forget abt free items ... even when i have 2 pay or when im sellin sumthin a ty is a must.
Anet shuld c if it can incorporate all this feedback into its GW2 coming out
maybe few changes in EUL policy or sumthin i donno
but hats off 2 the kind ppl tht give out free stuff
ty ^_^
people think its our job 2 be helpfull n its their duty to make use of us or sumthin .. even guildies dont say thanks. On the other hand i always say ty even if its a purcahse ... forget abt free items ... even when i have 2 pay or when im sellin sumthin a ty is a must.
Anet shuld c if it can incorporate all this feedback into its GW2 coming out
maybe few changes in EUL policy or sumthin i donnobut hats off 2 the kind ppl tht give out free stuff
ty ^_^
VGJustice
I remember once giving away some mildly useful hammer in LA a long time ago. I just spammed that I'd give it to the first character lower than such-and-such level. I waited for a while, and ended up giving it to some Necromancer. Who immediately turned around and told me how much money he was going to get by selling it.
Prick.
Prick.
Milennin
Heh, that's why I never give away stuff to random players.XD Most of them don't care about you, just happy they got something free that they can sell to other players later.=P
The Ernada
I'm not surprised at the results at all. People don't say thanks because they feel like they were entitled to things in the first place. I used to help people out a lot in MMO's until I started playing GW. No gratitude for answering questions or helping them out.
And you see a lot of that here on the forums. Always demands for stuff. Rude childish demands. And then when those demands are fulfilled (The recent storage update for instance) there's always a few that will still complain about it. And if you notice, the gratitude for the extra storageis far far less than the complaints about the lack of storage.
And you see a lot of that here on the forums. Always demands for stuff. Rude childish demands. And then when those demands are fulfilled (The recent storage update for instance) there's always a few that will still complain about it. And if you notice, the gratitude for the extra storageis far far less than the complaints about the lack of storage.
Barkroot Bonecrunch
You cannot immediately think that the younger members of the Guild Wars community are always the source of the problem. Yes I agree I have encountered some extremely childish members who are very rude, but I am one of those younger members ( 11 years old) and I am always very grateful for what i get. For example people helping me with missions, selling me items, etc.
sixdartbart
Great story to keep up the spirit of generosity for you guys.
I use to hang in ascalon and search out low level whatevers with nice stuff from my fissure trips,mind you I would always talk to them first and try to detect some sort of decent traits before giving things to them.
Around x-mas was a good time to find "real" new players and not just some low level 7th character someone needed a nice bow for.
Many were snotty but I found most to have alot of game questions and actually appreciate the advise and tools they received.
Well there I was in July {mind you I hadn't been to Ascalon doing this for months} setting up a GvG and get a PM from someone who I had no idea who it was, telling me he had just killed Shiro and wanted to give me his Amulet of the mist that he had just received for helping him out and giving him the great bow which he still uses.
I politely declined the amulet and thanked him for making ALL of the time I spent helping out players and giving stuff away worthwhile.
The moral here is keep on doing nice things, even if 99.9% of the people don't appreciate it that .1 might just make your day.
The fact that I still remember this shows how nice it was to get that PM!!!
actually made me smile just from remembering it while I posted.
I use to hang in ascalon and search out low level whatevers with nice stuff from my fissure trips,mind you I would always talk to them first and try to detect some sort of decent traits before giving things to them.
Around x-mas was a good time to find "real" new players and not just some low level 7th character someone needed a nice bow for.
Many were snotty but I found most to have alot of game questions and actually appreciate the advise and tools they received.
Well there I was in July {mind you I hadn't been to Ascalon doing this for months} setting up a GvG and get a PM from someone who I had no idea who it was, telling me he had just killed Shiro and wanted to give me his Amulet of the mist that he had just received for helping him out and giving him the great bow which he still uses.
I politely declined the amulet and thanked him for making ALL of the time I spent helping out players and giving stuff away worthwhile.
The moral here is keep on doing nice things, even if 99.9% of the people don't appreciate it that .1 might just make your day.
The fact that I still remember this shows how nice it was to get that PM!!!
actually made me smile just from remembering it while I posted.
manitoba1073
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Great story to keep up the spirit of generosity for you guys.
I use to hang in ascalon and search out low level whatevers with nice stuff from my fissure trips,mind you I would always talk to them first and try to detect some sort of decent traits before giving things to them. Around x-mas was a good time to find "real" new players and not just some low level 7th character someone needed a nice bow for. Many were snotty but I found most to have alot of game questions and actually appreciate the advise and tools they received. Well there I was in July {mind you I hadn't been to Ascalon doing this for months} setting up a GvG and get a PM from someone who I had no idea who it was, telling me he had just killed Shiro and wanted to give me his Amulet of the mist that he had just received for helping him out and giving him the great bow which he still uses. I politely declined the amulet and thanked him for making ALL of the time I spent helping out players and giving stuff away worthwhile. The moral here is keep on doing nice things, even if 99.9% of the people don't appreciate it that .1 might just make your day. The fact that I still remember this shows how nice it was to get that PM!!! actually made me smile just from remembering it while I posted. |
Realm of Fiery Doom
Gaile Gray saying she lost her mask: http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=442907
The person trying to sell the mask: http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=442930
'tis truly sad. I often give extra tips to people even if it was not in the original running price, or give extra money if I feel lik I'm scamming them (There was somebody selling a Mindclouder Staff and a Deatheater Longbow for 9K for both. I gave her 10K, and when she realised, she tried to give the extra 1K back. I gave her another 1K)
The person trying to sell the mask: http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=442930
'tis truly sad. I often give extra tips to people even if it was not in the original running price, or give extra money if I feel lik I'm scamming them (There was somebody selling a Mindclouder Staff and a Deatheater Longbow for 9K for both. I gave her 10K, and when she realised, she tried to give the extra 1K back. I gave her another 1K
Realm of Fiery Doom
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Maybe 5% get crazily estatic about it, like it's their birthday.
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FelixCarter
Handed out 6 Monk Starter Kits in Shing Jea Monastery. Got a "thank you" from every single Monk. Not only did it make me feel happy, it made me feel proud to contribute to such a community.
There was a Warrior in Kamadan Dis1 just a while ago who was handing out Yuletide Tonics. I made it a point to thank him.
To put it simply, there's alot of people out there who don't give a flying RED ENGINE GO. People like the leech who stole poor Gailes mask. But you don't have to act like them. You don't have to sink down to their level.
Next time someone does something for you in-game, thank them. Next time you see someone who needs help, help them. Do it once a month. Do it once a year. It doesn't matter.
A single drop in a lake can cause a wave of change.
There was a Warrior in Kamadan Dis1 just a while ago who was handing out Yuletide Tonics. I made it a point to thank him.
To put it simply, there's alot of people out there who don't give a flying RED ENGINE GO. People like the leech who stole poor Gailes mask. But you don't have to act like them. You don't have to sink down to their level.
Next time someone does something for you in-game, thank them. Next time you see someone who needs help, help them. Do it once a month. Do it once a year. It doesn't matter.
A single drop in a lake can cause a wave of change.
terminatorofhell
i always say thank you just ask the guy (twisted something) on this forum that gave me a sweet shield for a low price! Hes awesome!
Corinthian
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A single drop in a lake can cause a wave of change.
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Momentum is a conserved quantity, meaning that the total momentum of any closed system (one not affected by external forces, and whose internal forces are not dissipative in nature) cannot be changed.
One drop of kindness into the lake of Guild Wars dissipates rapidly and barely any ripples are felt at the shores.
General Zephyr
If i get free stuff, or even if i trade something for gold, I always make sure i say "ty" or "thanks" or something. And in my experience, I nearly always get a "ty" back
Darcy
You need to keep in mind that giving something away, whether gold, items or advice, is done to make you feel good about yourself. Receiving thanks or some other form of appreciation is icing on the cake, not required, but it makes everything more enjoyable.
As to the recipient selling the gift, what does that matter? The gold they receive is also a help to them, which was your intention.
And, believe me, thanks or not, they remember you. Why? Because so few people give anything away. I still have on my Friends list, the IGN of the player who gave my low-level monk 13k about a year ago when she was trying to sell a blue weapon in Ascalon. He's on the list as a reminder that there are kind people out there.
As to the recipient selling the gift, what does that matter? The gold they receive is also a help to them, which was your intention.
And, believe me, thanks or not, they remember you. Why? Because so few people give anything away. I still have on my Friends list, the IGN of the player who gave my low-level monk 13k about a year ago when she was trying to sell a blue weapon in Ascalon. He's on the list as a reminder that there are kind people out there.
FelixCarter
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Actually that's impossible...
Momentum is a conserved quantity, meaning that the total momentum of any closed system (one not affected by external forces, and whose internal forces are not dissipative in nature) cannot be changed. One drop of kindness into the lake of Guild Wars dissipates rapidly and barely any ripples are felt at the shores. |
Why would you say something like that? You can argue it's "truthful" all you want, but all it is is pessimism. Pessimism that is contributing to the lack of kindness in Guild Wars.
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He's on the list as a reminder that there are kind people out there.
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[KotL]Mjolnir
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Pessimism that is contributing to the lack of kindness in Guild Wars.
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Heaven is a Lie
Not ty-ing is smth sad but what about the scammers 0.0
And there are always people that would be happy. I remember i sold some greens at 1k cause they were hard sales and i was tired of keeping them. Now 1k is not that much and the people who bought them were extremely happy to possess a green (cause usually everyone is spamming high prices). They were whispering and idealising me with such happiness i even felt bad for taking 1k. xD
And there are always people that would be happy. I remember i sold some greens at 1k cause they were hard sales and i was tired of keeping them. Now 1k is not that much and the people who bought them were extremely happy to possess a green (cause usually everyone is spamming high prices). They were whispering and idealising me with such happiness i even felt bad for taking 1k. xD
Saelfaer
i usually dont give away items just like that
for example, i play alot in pre searing, i sell alot of charr bags
i am lvl 14 myself now, so already a bit above the usual pre searing lvl
i do play alot with lvl 6-10s, and occasionally (when i enjoy them and they are friendly) i give them the charr bags if charr bags drop... specially when i can see they are having inventory troubles
but i am not going to give it to just some lvl 1 standing in town.
i will give it to someone i played with, and someone i liked playing with
even if he was lower lvl. if the gaming experience was positive, i tend to be generous.
this was just a charr bag example, but it happens on other occasions too.
whenever i liked the gaming experience i had.
i also make a habbit of provoking players to say thank you
when selling charr bags, i usually add something like "thanks for the money, and may that bag be filled with loot soon", or "happy hunting, hope you enjoy the bag" ...
then you almost 99% of the time, get a thank you in return,
if you do this, i sort of figured out that players i trade more frequently with
always say thank you from the second trading time on.
so it has a positive effect.
for example, i play alot in pre searing, i sell alot of charr bags
i am lvl 14 myself now, so already a bit above the usual pre searing lvl
i do play alot with lvl 6-10s, and occasionally (when i enjoy them and they are friendly) i give them the charr bags if charr bags drop... specially when i can see they are having inventory troubles
but i am not going to give it to just some lvl 1 standing in town.
i will give it to someone i played with, and someone i liked playing with
even if he was lower lvl. if the gaming experience was positive, i tend to be generous.
this was just a charr bag example, but it happens on other occasions too.
whenever i liked the gaming experience i had.
i also make a habbit of provoking players to say thank you
when selling charr bags, i usually add something like "thanks for the money, and may that bag be filled with loot soon", or "happy hunting, hope you enjoy the bag" ...
then you almost 99% of the time, get a thank you in return,
if you do this, i sort of figured out that players i trade more frequently with
always say thank you from the second trading time on.
so it has a positive effect.
Rocky Raccoon
For every person who takes advantage of a situation with no reply of thank you, I find many more who really appreciate what you have done and thank you for it.
beanerman_99
Sometimes giving away free stuff is more headache than its worth.
I was trying out a new build on Chor, an incest boss in NF, and got lots of his green axes. I think they look cool but the stats are pretty...meh. Anyways I figured they would be ok axes for people starting the game so I went to some of the begginers towns and said in chat that I would give new warriors a free, green axe.
Well...that sure opened a flood gate of greedy, rude, moronic people. I had lvl 20 warriors who were wearing 15K armor trying to get one. I had rangers, monks, necros trying to get one. In the end I had only 2 low level warriors politely ask for one.
Most times its much easier to be nice to people inside a mission or instance. Go out with low levels who are not expecting anything and start dropping items on the ground saying "this is for you".
I was trying out a new build on Chor, an incest boss in NF, and got lots of his green axes. I think they look cool but the stats are pretty...meh. Anyways I figured they would be ok axes for people starting the game so I went to some of the begginers towns and said in chat that I would give new warriors a free, green axe.
Well...that sure opened a flood gate of greedy, rude, moronic people. I had lvl 20 warriors who were wearing 15K armor trying to get one. I had rangers, monks, necros trying to get one. In the end I had only 2 low level warriors politely ask for one.
Most times its much easier to be nice to people inside a mission or instance. Go out with low levels who are not expecting anything and start dropping items on the ground saying "this is for you".
Sectus
About a year ago I did something similar. I had tons of collector items, and I decided to cash them in for good max stats weapons. I went to Ascalon City and handed them (including some golds items I had) out for free. Most of the people were downright rude, and I rarely got any thanks. And there were some people trying to get a suspiciously large amount of items, or started begging me for gold.
Even though I still have a lot of gold items I'd like to just hand out for free, I'm not gonna bother to do so when I feel like people are trying to scam me.
Even though I still have a lot of gold items I'd like to just hand out for free, I'm not gonna bother to do so when I feel like people are trying to scam me.
mqstout
I used to organize and lead parties to do the Villainy of Galrath quest often, including the intermediate step of taking people to Temple of Ages. Thanks were quite rare indeed. About the only thanks I'd ever get were people who came along for the ride to stay afterwards to map the zone for cartographer titles.
Taurucis
It's good to hear about all the people who are grateful when you give them items... I try to help out as many people I can, hoping I'll get mentioned in The Scribe someday. (It might be 1 in 1.5 million but that's still a chance) Usually I don't give out items, I have too much trouble finding people that need it, but occassionally I will give out materials/gold to the little newbies out there Most of my gifts are advice. Strangely, 90% of the people I gave advice to thanked me for it... but when I gave out items, only 40% said thanks. Interesting, eh.
warpedheat101
yeah i like to give stuff out for free to newer players but it gets ya a little cranky when they just start selling it right after you gave it to them
Mordakai
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but MANY drops of kindness could cause a flood of kindness, and sweep away all the bitterness!
(ok, I'm being overly positive, but the TRUTH is probably somewhere between these two extremes.)
Besides, who would you rather be, the "gloom and doomer" who sits in the corner, doing nothing, or the "Hero" who goes out of his way to help others?
Ritual del Fuego
GW is just like real life. There are nice people and there are rude people. When I give things away, I try to avoid the lower number districts of major outposts since the "average" player who is not an active trader usually just zones in to a random district. To be honest, I see just as many people who don't say thank you in real life, so seeing it in a game doesn't surprise me. It's unfortuanate but it is the truth. I will say that even if 1 out of 10 really appreciate the items I am giving out, it is still worth it because maybe that one person will like being part of the GW community a little more than they did prior to that. And after all, a better community is what makes the game better...
But it is not a closed system. The drop of kindness is but one aspect of the experience that a person will experience in guild wars. This drop could be the proverbial straw that breaks the camels back in that it is additive to the other (hopefully) positive experiences the player might have had and this final drop opens the flood gates into the community.
Ok...so I'm an optimist...
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Actually that's impossible...
Momentum is a conserved quantity, meaning that the total momentum of any closed system (one not affected by external forces, and whose internal forces are not dissipative in nature) cannot be changed. One drop of kindness into the lake of Guild Wars dissipates rapidly and barely any ripples are felt at the shores. |
Ok...so I'm an optimist...
combatchuck
When I was first starting out in Prophecies, I didn't know anything about anything in the game. I had like 300 gold in my account, didn't know about storage, and was still using a crappy pre-searing bow, even though it was post. A very nice guy, who sadly doesn't play any more, took like 2 hours of his time and taught me the ropes of playing a ranger. He also gave me this:
That was almost 2 years ago. It's not the greatest bow, but that's not why I keep it.
The reason I told that little story is that, because of that guy, I take a lot of my own time to help new people out. I could be one of those people that doesn't give a crap about places I've been to and gone, but I tend to go back to earlier areas and help new people. I've given away countless items to people in Ascalon City, ran those missions dozens of times, and taught a lot of people the basics of the game, all because of that one guy taking a little of his own time 2 years ago. My hope is that a few of the people I help out will think back in the same way, and do the same thing. Eventually, the nice people will outnumber the bastards.
That was almost 2 years ago. It's not the greatest bow, but that's not why I keep it.
The reason I told that little story is that, because of that guy, I take a lot of my own time to help new people out. I could be one of those people that doesn't give a crap about places I've been to and gone, but I tend to go back to earlier areas and help new people. I've given away countless items to people in Ascalon City, ran those missions dozens of times, and taught a lot of people the basics of the game, all because of that one guy taking a little of his own time 2 years ago. My hope is that a few of the people I help out will think back in the same way, and do the same thing. Eventually, the nice people will outnumber the bastards.