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Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

06 Apr 2007 at 20:19 - 1

Firstly, sorry if this has been posted before. I searched and found nothing

I was thinking that minipets simply have no use other than bragging rights. I've heard people say they're "stupid" etc. for this very reason. As a result, I thought that maybe minipets could collect dropped loot for us.

Reasons for this could include:

1. When trying for the Master's reward on timed missions, collecting loot can take time, especially if it is scattered all over the place. If your minipet were to collect the loot for you, you would be able to focus more on the task at hand

2. Sometimes people can miss the fact that an item dropped (as a result of the message on-screen being pushed up by other messages or simply not seeing it). I was in a party with someone who had a black dye drop, but didn't see it. Later another party member went to collect it when the allocated time to the first owner was up

3. Often if someone in your party gets a gold or green drop, regardless of how much one of their spells or attacks may be needed, they stop and run to pick up their drop. It can be extremely frustrating when in large battles and people's paranoia gets the better of them

I understand that a problem may arouse in the fact that people might not want all the loot their minipet collected for them. A solution to this could be that minipets have a temporary inventory during missions etc. Once the mission is over and the party is returned to town, a window could pop up showing all the loot collected, allowing a person to choose what loot they want.

So that's it

Please state your opinions or suggestions on this idea

Realm of Fiery Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Realm of Fiery Doom

06 Apr 2007 at 20:22 - 2

I would personally love this, although it might be hard to implement. Especially with GW:EN and GW2 going on as well.

/signed

Losttoapathy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Glasgow, UK.

The Cult of Weegie [Cow]

R/

06 Apr 2007 at 20:26 - 3

Don't you get a window with unclaimed items at the end of a mission anyway? I don't think there's any point in it but maybe that's just me. It has no inherent effect apart from maybe a few coins here or there.

Soon people will be screaming for minipets to become party members. Sigh.

Whoops, forgot something.

/notsigned

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

06 Apr 2007 at 20:34 - 4

Yes, you do get a window at the end for unclaimed items, but those are only items that are still "yours." If the time limit has expired on an item because you haven't seen it you don't get that window.

Thanks for an idea though, because the minipet "inventory" window could work exactly like that Unclaimed Items window, just with an option of you being able to choose whether your minipet collects the loot or not.

Yes...this could be implemented without the aid of minipets, but it would be so much funner having minipets running around collecting loot for you. Put that stinking Varesh to work I tell you! :P

Hobbs

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

06 Apr 2007 at 20:37 - 5

/signed

While difficult to implement and unlikely to happen this would be useful. The Unclaimed Items box does not hold ALL the items from the whole mission. Could be exploited using minipet as extra storage

But i'm all for the idea. But another downside is it gives a disadvantage to newer players and since GW is about skill level not hours played, may not be in practice but it says on the box, I think this feature is opposed to this.

Dr.thug1230

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

D/Mo

06 Apr 2007 at 20:39 - 6

/signed but 1 problem with this is that if your pet picks up an item, and you drop it. Anet will have to do something that prevents your pet from picking it up over and over

Losttoapathy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Glasgow, UK.

The Cult of Weegie [Cow]

R/

06 Apr 2007 at 20:43 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lydz

Yes, you do get a window at the end for unclaimed items, but those are only items that are still "yours." If the time limit has expired on an item because you haven't seen it you don't get that window.

Thanks for an idea though, because the minipet "inventory" window could work exactly like that Unclaimed Items window, just with an option of you being able to choose whether your minipet collects the loot or not.

Yes...this could be implemented without the aid of minipets, but it would be so much funner having minipets running around collecting loot for you. Put that stinking Varesh to work I tell you! :P

So how about they just change it so that items don't expire? That way others don't get them and they all appear in the window, and it wouldn't require any major changes either.

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

06 Apr 2007 at 20:46 - 8

Dr.thug that could be easily fixed with an option such as "Do not pick up dropped loot." I understand this can be exploited as extra storage, but since it's only during a mission it may not be such a big deal.

Togira I'm not sure if I'm interpreting what you said correctly, but are you saying that people without minipets will be at a disadvantage? If so, it wouldn't be a major thing. New players don't get much loot, and usually have alot of time to pick up what they do get too

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

06 Apr 2007 at 20:53 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Losttoapathy

So how about they just change it so that items don't expire? That way others don't get them and they all appear in the window, and it wouldn't require any major changes either.

As I said earlier, it would give people a reason to own a minipet. Some people feel cheated at getting a useless thing that runs around, on their birthday.

The changing of the unclaimed items rules could work, but wouldn't minipets be more fun?

This could even be implemented as a second birthday present (or has a second birthday present already been decided on?

)

Losttoapathy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Glasgow, UK.

The Cult of Weegie [Cow]

R/

06 Apr 2007 at 20:56 - 10

I guess so. I'm one of those people who feels he has minipets for no apparent reason. So yes, it would be good to have a use for them. And since I can't think of anything better, I'll make my peace with you on this one.

/signed now

:P

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

06 Apr 2007 at 20:59 - 11

^^ thank you

Glad I could put my convincing powers to work

Osi Ri S

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Trinity of the Ascended [ToA]

N/

06 Apr 2007 at 21:17 - 12

/notsigned

All this will cause is people to b*tch because they will say "oh well its not FAIR since i dont have a mini-pet" and you know how that goes :/

Also, i dont think its THAT big of a problem to pick up your own things, this is just another idea that could be summed up in one sentence:

"PLEASE BABY US MORE ANET!!"

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

06 Apr 2007 at 21:34 - 13

yea people bitch no matter what though "unfair my reigon cant win halls so i cant do underworld" "how come only the rich players get good armor" "wtf why cant rangers farm" "damn it stop nerfing my farming spot" "why cant i buy the CE upgrades in the store thats not fair" ect ect ect. so yea not a good excuse for not signing

and for my opinion sure yea i would like this, currently i dont even take my minipets out much but this would make me want to, i would feel better for having them now that they have a use, even just this small use. so yea

/signed

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

06 Apr 2007 at 21:47 - 14

/signed

If your character has spent 365 days picking up loot by hand, I think they deserve it.

Personally I'm one of those paranoid people who rushes off to pick up good drops. I avoid that whenever possible, but I'm a very poor man (70k is the richest I've ever been at once) and wipes for no reason have occurred (once in FoW we died in the temple of war, even though there were no enemies in miles and no Eternals were harmed).

It will also help when you do quickspeed farms, and would rather do two minutes doing the run, then re-entering instead of two minutes doing the run and an additional minute for looting.

It'd be interesting if, maybe minipets only have this ability if your account earned them and bought minipets can't do this (though knowing ANet with how, say, minutes spent drunk prior to title implementation didn't count, then all people who earned minipets already will not be able to get this feature since they haven't logged this thing yet). It would cause whining, but hey. We were loyal enough to stick with GW for a full year, I feel in some ways ANet should reward older, more loyal players.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

06 Apr 2007 at 21:55 - 15

Hmm, interesting idea. If heard variations on this before, but never linked to mini-pets.

I doubt it will ever be implemented, but I see nothing against it!

(for those who want the option to still pick up stuff, simply put away your pet during the mission)

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

06 Apr 2007 at 21:56 - 16

Hmm, interesting idea. If heard variations on this before, but never linked to mini-pets.

I doubt it will ever be implemented, but I see nothing against it!

(for those who want the option to still pick up stuff, simply put away your pet during the mission)

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

06 Apr 2007 at 22:17 - 17

Hm... it's true that there is the unclaimed item window.
But gold is not collected at the end of the mission.

You'll notice that, in cinematics, you'll hear the 'coin drop sound' when the camera goes back to a place where gold was left behind.

I would agree as long as minipet work just like the unclaimed items window.

THat is, if you don't pick the items next time you get to an outpost, you lose them.

Just ask Mahk the toy maker to tweak them to gather some stuff. He was able to magically change all the Varesh miniatures all over the world, after all.

geekling

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

06 Apr 2007 at 22:42 - 18

/signed

Although...

I'd rather see the minipets picking up the gold drops only. No inventory problems, no jealousy from those without a minipet - the gold is automatically shared within the party anyhow, and leave you to concentrate on the item drops.

But mostly, it'd just be so darn cute with a whole load of little minipets running around trying to beat the other minipets to reach that '104 gold' drop.

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

06 Apr 2007 at 23:54 - 19

Yeah! Thay would be even funnier if their voices where pitched up.

Imagine a Shiro, a Rurik a Varesh with voices like those you get after breathing helium running to a pile of gold.

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

07 Apr 2007 at 00:01 - 20

heh, well im still for the unclaimed item window but yea it would be funny to hear their voices lol

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

07 Apr 2007 at 00:08 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

Hm... it's true that there is the unclaimed item window.
But gold is not collected at the end of the mission.

You'll notice that, in cinematics, you'll hear the 'coin drop sound' when the camera goes back to a place where gold was left behind.

I would agree as long as minipet work just like the unclaimed items window.

THat is, if you don't pick the items next time you get to an outpost, you lose them.

Just ask Mahk the toy maker to tweak them to gather some stuff. He was able to magically change all the Varesh miniatures all over the world, after all.

Yes, that's actually a very good idea. They could implement rules that minipets only pick up gold, as well as possibly gold items and green items. That way people get their gold and their items without running around being paranoid ^^

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

07 Apr 2007 at 01:33 - 22

BTW LOL at the high-pitched voices

Lynxius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

07 Apr 2007 at 01:47 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Togira Ikonaka

/signed
But another downside is it gives a disadvantage to newer players and since GW is about skill level not hours played.

Piggie mini was free wasnt it? >_>

/signed

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

07 Apr 2007 at 02:15 - 24

yea good point, also the mini devourer is only like 15k so yea no big deal

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

07 Apr 2007 at 02:42 - 25

Yeah that is a good point. I'm sure the majority of people will have 2K to spare in order to buy a mini piggie. Who knows, maybe ANet will give out more free ones on special occasions. Problem solved

Does-it-Matter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

07 Apr 2007 at 03:19 - 26

I like the idea. I mean in all honesty I don't think ANet _doesn't_ want us to pick up our drops. The only flaw I could think of is perhaps this would allow someone to pick up items without aggroing groups. (But since items remain, one could easily say that this is just speeding up what one would do after taking out the mob.)

Besides, I'd love to see my mini-troll running after me with troll tusks in arm!

xaleo21

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Washington, USA

Doesn't matter anymore.

07 Apr 2007 at 04:27 - 27

Title convincing enough, didn't read full description.
Yes, this is a good idea and the Gods should consider it.
Prepare the sacrificial lamb.

What do you mean the's no lamb? What do you mean the Gods put me on ignore? I gotta send them 20 more messages.

Rakeman

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

07 Apr 2007 at 04:31 - 28

Please... new players at a disadvantage? Just go to town and say "WTB Mini Pig 2k" and you will probably get a good 80 whispers.

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

07 Apr 2007 at 10:53 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Does-it-Matter

I like the idea. I mean in all honesty I don't think ANet _doesn't_ want us to pick up our drops. The only flaw I could think of is perhaps this would allow someone to pick up items without aggroing groups. (But since items remain, one could easily say that this is just speeding up what one would do after taking out the mob.)

Besides, I'd love to see my mini-troll running after me with troll tusks in arm!

That is actually very true. One of the previous posters said that the Guild Wars box says the game promotes a player's skill, not time spent playing. Having our minipets collecting loot can save a lot of time better spent doing something else

stuntharley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Australia

Critical Chop [cC]

W/

07 Apr 2007 at 10:57 - 30

/signed When i pve i never pick loot up because it means i have to do something.

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

07 Apr 2007 at 18:11 - 31

LOL, can't say the same for me

OhCrapLions

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

Ivalice

D/P

07 Apr 2007 at 18:17 - 32

how novel and convenient

/signed

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

08 Apr 2007 at 19:08 - 33

Anyone else have a view to express?

trekkie dude

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2007

W/Mo

08 Apr 2007 at 19:25 - 34

this sounds like a good idea but i think this might have problems.
1. obviously people would complaining about not getting a minipet without buying the NF collectors or actually playing a whole year.
2. those who want to buy minipets would suddenly see a huge rise in price of minis (althought i really do want the dragon minipet but so expensive :/)
3. i think if you want to make the minipets useful have then search for chest. like if you have the key to the area and you're getting close to a chest say just right outside earshot then it should make a sound and sortof run toward the chest. there are times when i've missed a few chest because i didn't see it :/ just my idea

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

08 Apr 2007 at 20:19 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkie dude

this sounds like a good idea but i think this might have problems.
1. obviously people would complaining about not getting a minipet without buying the NF collectors or actually playing a whole year.
2. those who want to buy minipets would suddenly see a huge rise in price of minis (althought i really do want the dragon minipet but so expensive :/)
3. i think if you want to make the minipets useful have then search for chest. like if you have the key to the area and you're getting close to a chest say just right outside earshot then it should make a sound and sortof run toward the chest. there are times when i've missed a few chest because i didn't see it :/ just my idea

Thanks for the reply

In response,

1. I understand where you are coming from, but there are many other circumstances where people can complain about things being unfair. For example, "why can't maximum armour be available to completely new characters?" etc. The answer is obvious, because you don't need it. I don't think a new player will have any need for a minipet, because they don't receive as much loot as higher level characters, and their missions aren't as demanding (meaning if they are going for Master's picking up loot won't be a problem). A solution to this, though, could be the distribution of a free "rubbish" mini. It could be like mini pigs are at the moment, only every character will receive one to "aid them in their journey." This way all is kept fair, and the people who own other minis will have a little more bragging rights too

2. Minipets were originally intended to be a reward for veterans of the game. I don't think the prices of them should be a major factor (unless my solution gives in "1" isn't implemented), because they would all do the same job, some would just look better doing it ^^

3. I like the idea of the chest

It sounds like it could be useful too

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

08 Apr 2007 at 21:41 - 36

first

/signed

I can see negatives of the players who do not have minis but its not that hard to get a mini and its not like this is that big of a change. It saves people time and makes missions go more smoothly.

perhaps a setting

Mini-pet
gathers: ___ Gold Only
___ High End Loot/Gold
___ All items

If the idea of minis gathering takes off a slot in inventory like cape/headgear that lets you keep mini out while adventuring and not have to activate it would be nice.

~the rat~

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

08 Apr 2007 at 22:16 - 37

Yes those options sound perfect...just a "Do not collect loot" option would need to be added

Sparks Dawnbringer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Los Angeles

none

E/Mo

09 Apr 2007 at 01:41 - 38

/signed

Maybe as long a one person had a mini pet it would pick up everyones loot and sort it to the correct person at end of play or move to city. That way if you get quitters they would loose their stuff it would be sorted randomly between remaining party members. Kill two striders with one stone.

Stop The Storm

Keeping DoA Alive

Join Date: Jan 2007

England

Were In [DoA]

A/N

09 Apr 2007 at 01:59 - 39

/signed

12 characters

Lydz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Cape Town, South Africa

The Crazy Dragons [TCD]

E/Mo

09 Apr 2007 at 09:01 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparks Dawnbringer

/signed

Maybe as long a one person had a mini pet it would pick up everyones loot and sort it to the correct person at end of play or move to city. That way if you get quitters they would loose their stuff it would be sorted randomly between remaining party members. Kill two striders with one stone.

I like that idea! You quit, you lost out :P The only problem I can see though, is that if someone gets disconnected and can't reconnect (happened to me a few times), they lost their loot lol.