Possible to use prot bond like before!
Sk8tborderx
Use a protection prayers +1 20% chance, and use protection headpiece with sup protection, use a golden egg, and you can get 18 protection prayers, which will cause you to only lose 2 energy per hit.
sph0nz
Actually, with 16 prot and a +1 item that is 17.. However, with the golden eggs, you could raise your attributes by 1 and get 18 for this to work.
Sk8tborderx
Oops, forgot to add the part about he golden eggs.
mastar of warrior
balthazar's spirit+essence bond+greater conflagration+winter+mantra of frost u will need only 16 prot
eiri yuki
mo/r/me
not possible
not possible
spun ducky
I think the easiest solution yet if you insist on running protective bond for farming and it doesn't fit the simple solutions being the mantra of X element or vs only melee which means bonettis for energy management would be have a hero bonder sharing the protective bond cost with you.
Sk8tborderx
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Originally Posted by spun ducky
I think the easiest solution yet if you insist on running protective bond for farming and it doesn't fit the simple solutions being the mantra of X element or vs only melee which means bonettis for energy management would be have a hero bonder sharing the protective bond cost with you.
I was just simply trying to point out that now with these eggs, it is possible to farm with prot bond like it was back before the nerf.
tamirxd
what are those eggs anyway?
Sk8tborderx
They are golden eggs, they are random drops like clovers and ales were, they give all of your attributes+1 for 5 minutes.
Evilsod
Could do the same with Lunar Fortunes, less reliable for getting +1 attribute but at least it has infinite duration.
6 second Burning Arrows ftw.
6 second Burning Arrows ftw.
Rand \,,/
i bought 300eggs and AFTER that i got this idea: with protection at 18 you lose 2energy by protective bond each hit...so ummm where might you get more enegry so you can keep your other spells up all times when your energy regeneration is 0 (if you use mending,prot bond,balth spirit and essence bond). Maybe by using zealous weapon?
EDIT:
doh i'm stupido -.- blessed signet
hmmm and bonetti's defence ofcourse (oh well i sold the eggs already :P POWERSELL FTW!! hehe)
EDIT:
doh i'm stupido -.- blessed signet
hmmm and bonetti's defence ofcourse (oh well i sold the eggs already :P POWERSELL FTW!! hehe)
Killer Force Ninja
channeling ftw?
KennethD
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Originally Posted by Killer Force Ninja
channeling ftw?
Quoted 4 truth.
I don't c the point in using bond, its much easier to just run ordinary 55hp.
Yeye, cface, i only play on my warr.
I don't c the point in using bond, its much easier to just run ordinary 55hp.
Yeye, cface, i only play on my warr.
kvndoom
Blessed Signet, Channeling, Mantras (depending on farm), Bonneti's, attunements, many options are available. It just depends on your build.
fb2000
i dont think this is viable for farming anymore.. the combo spirit bond and shield of absorption is more hax
PS might be interesting for bonding, but its too much side effects (read -2 energy ;P) to make it worth to experiment with imo
PS might be interesting for bonding, but its too much side effects (read -2 energy ;P) to make it worth to experiment with imo
Sk8tborderx
It is just something that is fun to do, brings back some memories of being able to go afk with a mob pounding on you, and you cannot die.
ArKaiN
no it works, its just not as effective as some of the newer builds that came up after that nerf.
Kcp
Imagine how well it will work when easy mode is implemented and they no longer flee
Don't underestimate Protective bond. I'm saving my eggs just in case.
Don't underestimate Protective bond. I'm saving my eggs just in case.
unknown1
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Originally Posted by fb2000
i dont think this is viable for farming anymore.. the combo spirit bond and shield of absorption is more hax
PS might be interesting for bonding, but its too much side effects (read -2 energy ;P) to make it worth to experiment with imo combo?? is the combo mainly for the delay in recharge from shield of a... ?
PS might be interesting for bonding, but its too much side effects (read -2 energy ;P) to make it worth to experiment with imo combo?? is the combo mainly for the delay in recharge from shield of a... ?
Glints Bane
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Originally Posted by Kcp
Imagine how well it will work when easy mode is implemented and they no longer flee
Don't underestimate Protective bond. I'm saving my eggs just in case. OMG KCP is alive!!! Thought you left the game or something....
Ok now for the topic...I think its good and all but really not needed. protection spirit is what we all have used for so long and have done many places with it...so why go through all the touble?...
Don't underestimate Protective bond. I'm saving my eggs just in case. OMG KCP is alive!!! Thought you left the game or something....
Ok now for the topic...I think its good and all but really not needed. protection spirit is what we all have used for so long and have done many places with it...so why go through all the touble?...
Sk8tborderx
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Originally Posted by Glints Bane
OMG KCP is alive!!! Thought you left the game or something....
Ok now for the topic...I think its good and all but really not needed. protection spirit is what we all have used for so long and have done many places with it...so why go through all the touble?... It is just something to do for fun, just to bring back some memories of the old prot bond days, its not meant to be used a lot since the current builds work fine, it is just fun to do, especially for those that were around when the 55 build was first discovered.
Ok now for the topic...I think its good and all but really not needed. protection spirit is what we all have used for so long and have done many places with it...so why go through all the touble?... It is just something to do for fun, just to bring back some memories of the old prot bond days, its not meant to be used a lot since the current builds work fine, it is just fun to do, especially for those that were around when the 55 build was first discovered.
Levi Garett
While the eggs are nice to use this is really nothing new. You could of been using Prot Bond since Factions came out. Monk +1 Attrib shrine anyone?
Eggs are super nice though since you can do it anywhere. Much better than Lunar Fortunes...
Eggs are super nice though since you can do it anywhere. Much better than Lunar Fortunes...
kess
maybe with greater conflagration + storm chaser?
Swift Thief
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Originally Posted by Kcp
Imagine how well it will work when easy mode is implemented and they no longer flee
Easy mode already exists.
Easy mode already exists.
darrengordon
Hmm good point guys eggs are worthless! so if any one wants to get rid of em then please contact me in game and i will buy these worhtless little items. Note to writer your very right in this instance and there are 1 or 2 very good uses for only 5% damage. Quite specific but wow do they make the farm easy.
Wyrmslayer
Prot bond farming isnt viable anymore, not even with the egg trick.
Lets look at a typical skillbar:
1. Prot Bond - needed
2. Balthz spirit - needed
3. Essence bond - needed
4. <energy gaining skill> - pretty needed unless you wanna wack on with your zealous weap
5. <healing skill> - mending? well that doesnt heal enough. breeze? can be interrupted and stripped more easily.
6. <2nd healing skill> - most likely needed.
7. <damage skill>
8. <damage skill>
Which leaves 2 skills for damage, and your attributes are pretty crippled as it is, seeing as you need 16 in prot, which leaves little room for a high smiting skill or whatever you need.
And dont forgot that the AI has gotten alot smarter than back in the day where the prot bond imonk ruled.
It would work, but daaamn it would be slow.
Lets look at a typical skillbar:
1. Prot Bond - needed
2. Balthz spirit - needed
3. Essence bond - needed
4. <energy gaining skill> - pretty needed unless you wanna wack on with your zealous weap
5. <healing skill> - mending? well that doesnt heal enough. breeze? can be interrupted and stripped more easily.
6. <2nd healing skill> - most likely needed.
7. <damage skill>
8. <damage skill>
Which leaves 2 skills for damage, and your attributes are pretty crippled as it is, seeing as you need 16 in prot, which leaves little room for a high smiting skill or whatever you need.
And dont forgot that the AI has gotten alot smarter than back in the day where the prot bond imonk ruled.
It would work, but daaamn it would be slow.
AOD_EaSyKiLL
It can be used with 2 heros with some careful casting order, but dosen't provide much (if any) benefit over a duo build.
Each hero casts Bond on you. One hero will lose 2 eng per hit and the other 1, so place life bond, essence bond and balths spirit accordingly.
And dont forget shrine blessings when you have favor, can give a +1 to attributes.
Each hero casts Bond on you. One hero will lose 2 eng per hit and the other 1, so place life bond, essence bond and balths spirit accordingly.
And dont forget shrine blessings when you have favor, can give a +1 to attributes.
Sk8tborderx
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Originally Posted by Wyrmslayer
Prot bond farming isnt viable anymore, not even with the egg trick.
Lets look at a typical skillbar:
1. Prot Bond - needed
2. Balthz spirit - needed
3. Essence bond - needed
4. <energy gaining skill> - pretty needed unless you wanna wack on with your zealous weap
5. <healing skill> - mending? well that doesnt heal enough. breeze? can be interrupted and stripped more easily.
6. <2nd healing skill> - most likely needed.
7. <damage skill>
8. <damage skill>
Which leaves 2 skills for damage, and your attributes are pretty crippled as it is, seeing as you need 16 in prot, which leaves little room for a high smiting skill or whatever you need.
And dont forgot that the AI has gotten alot smarter than back in the day where the prot bond imonk ruled.
It would work, but daaamn it would be slow. You can use the old prot bond build from back before the nerf, it still works, you just need several headpieces.
Lets look at a typical skillbar:
1. Prot Bond - needed
2. Balthz spirit - needed
3. Essence bond - needed
4. <energy gaining skill> - pretty needed unless you wanna wack on with your zealous weap
5. <healing skill> - mending? well that doesnt heal enough. breeze? can be interrupted and stripped more easily.
6. <2nd healing skill> - most likely needed.
7. <damage skill>
8. <damage skill>
Which leaves 2 skills for damage, and your attributes are pretty crippled as it is, seeing as you need 16 in prot, which leaves little room for a high smiting skill or whatever you need.
And dont forgot that the AI has gotten alot smarter than back in the day where the prot bond imonk ruled.
It would work, but daaamn it would be slow. You can use the old prot bond build from back before the nerf, it still works, you just need several headpieces.