Factions Vs. Nightfall

I'm sort of in a dillema where I cannot choose between Factions and Nightfall. I wanted to know your opinions on which I should buy. Of course I will be buying both eventually, I just need the most neccassary one for now. (I do have Prophecies.)

Post your opinions.

what do you like more pvp or pve? nightfall is more pve while factions is more pvp...........i prefer nightfall but have been going back to factions a bit

Nightfall. That's nearly objective.

One reason; HEROES.

Get Nightfall. People can argue about which is the better game (I prefer Nightfall) but its the only game you can get heroes from. They help a lot since some of the missions have hardly any people in them no matter which game you're playing.

Nightfall.

Heroes make your life much more fun.

I'd have to say.. the most important one you'd want to buy is Nightfall since it has more features to take advantage of, IE: Heros, inscribable armors, and some pretty nice skills etc.. Factions does have nice armor and some pretty good skills, but I guess it's not all that important. Now if it was me who had to choose from one of them I'd pick factions, because i really despise nightfall.

I prefer Factions because I think its a better all around game. Love the environment and everything about it ever since we got to do tha beta thing. Just love Factions but thats me. Most people will say NF because of heros which is a good idea because heros are very helpful but we did play at a time with no heros. If you like pvp then get Factions so you can do alliance battles. You cant alliance battle with NF so choose wisely.

In the End i say Factions!

^What he said.

The only reason I liked NF were:

Heroes.
New Skills.

Theres just too much sand. And I find its longer than Prophm since ther aren't many runners.

Factions, because it's fast and fun.

NF is too long and tedious -.-

Both have their pros and cons.

Factions = better skill balance, better looking armors imo, if youre a casual player its a little shorter if you dont have the time, more pvp options with aliance battles, better elite areas

Nightfall = heros (love these guys), longer storyline, better storyline, inscribable armors and weapons, better scenery (no ghetto), more pve focused

Factions, its the only chapter you can play a rit.

Nightfall. There's no use to playing PvE if you find it too long and tedious. The objective isn't to finish the game, it's to have fun doing so

I prefer factions MUCH more. I like the asian setting and Alliance Battles are fun.

If you plan to play a necro then ya might wanna get Nightfall so you have access to the one(although lame) e-management skill.

That's a tough call.

Factions offers faster levelling, quicker gold gain, more affordable armor options, the Ritualist and Assassin professions, faster paced PvE, a lot of PvP gamestyles, plus better music.

Nightfall offers Heroes, a richer PvE storyline, better cinematics, inscribable items and armor, and the Dervish and Paragon professions.

Having played through all three, I find myself enjoying Factions the most these days. However, that is with heroes... I don't think I'd feel the same way if I were dependent upon pick up groups or henchmen. In Factions, a lot of the higher level PvE areas can be fairly empty; but if one is in a helpful guild, that isn't such a big issue. Before heroes, I remember having to wait several days or more to find a group for certain missions.

Nightfall is great; yet having completed it with one character, it just doesn't draw me into playing through the missions and quest areas much with my other characters. The only reason I do is to unlock heroes. And one has to play through a considerable part of Nightfall to unlock the cooler heroes.

If storyline consistency is an issue, play through Factions first and then Nightfall. If it's not, I'd recommend playing Nightfall first, and then after the game is complete and all heroes are unlocked, like General Morgahn and Razah the Ritualist, then play Factions. The PvE will be more fun with all the heroes unlocked, and you can move into the more interesting PvP from there.

Edit: It's kind of interesting how the Ritualist hero Razah is unlocked after one completes the Nightfall campaign. It makes one wonder, "well what do I use him for, since the game is over now?" I think it's to encourage those who haven't played Factions to pick it up, since all of Razah's good skills are unlocked in Factions. Plus one doesn't get to unlock Zenmai the Assassin without Factions. Fwiw, it's pretty cool to play through Factions with a Rit and Assassin hero along. And the storyline consistency issue isn't really that big of a deal with regards to Nightfall and Factions, ie. they could plausibly be played out of order and things still make sense. It's more of an issue with Nightfall and Prophecies, regarding the five Gods and Abaddon.

I had the most fun with NF out of any of the campaigns. Probably because (unlike the other campaigns) I got it as soon as it was released, and everybody else was just starting at the same time as me. I liked the story in NF the most because it stays focused around one central enemy instead of having you switch enemies 5 different times throughout the course of the game, and most of the missions were genuinely fun (except poghan passage but they fixed that later). I also like how NF gave you alot of backstory on the events of prophecies and factions (mostly in sidequests though).

Really it's just a preference thing, generally though Factions for PvP and NF for PvE.

Let's see...

Factions - pros:

-Spoil Victor
-Rit is kind of cool

cons:

-Exploding monsters
-AB's full of leavers
-Tons of new useless skills to use
-Restricted access to Elite missions
-Abandoned outposts and missions

Nightfall - pros:

-Fun
-Steadily increasing difficulty
-Good storyline
-Heroes
-Searing Flames
-Dervishes!!!!!!
-Unlocked treasure chests!!!

cons:

-Insanely difficult high-end PvE (requires real people and teamwork)
-Ummm...

Nightfall .

Nightfall for the win.

Horribly long, drawn out and tedious.
Sunspear point grind.
Horrible slow levelling, though not as bad as prophecies.

Just out of curiousity; in what way? It only took me four days to hit twenty in Nightfall.

I personally never liked factions at the start, and ive played all 3. But oddly enough I prefere factions because its actually alot easier to get into and play.

I've took 2 characters through prophercies and 2through factions now. But no new characters in Nightfall.

I took my maxed character through nightfall first and while it is a good game... its also an extremely frustrating game.

The difficulty shoots up at a set point from harsish to sheer frustration. Once you reach the Realm of Torment, you need alot of patience. It is a much harder game then prophercies or factions.

The first 3/4 of the game are fine, and enjoyable. Its the last 1/4 that can do your head in. Not from difficulty, but from sheer bad design and bad creature design. Its basically a realm where they crammed as many creatures and mobs into one place and made them all mob together. Its like walking through a mine-field of creatures.

You agro one, and the entire area goes for you. No real breathing space.

I tried making a fresh character in nightfall and I just couldnt be bothered after about 5 minutes. It doesnt really have any apeal. Maybe I will later on.

But if you want a more challenging game, then go with Nightfall. If you want a more pick-up-and-play then go with factions. Factions being the easiest of all 3 games.

Both games took me about a month to complete, so their not hard.

But if you havent played prophercies, you have to. Its the Daddy of all 3 and the best.

That took me alot longer to complete.

But as I said.... I hated factions at first, and ive found myself going back to play it over and over again. Its just alot more get-in-there and play.

I have to agree it only took me a month to complete Nightfall. Its not that bad for levelling. But I was already lvl20. But I think if you jumped right into NF without playing the other 2, then I can understand why it seems a very grinding game.

Its kinda of a happy medium (that isnt quite happy and a bit disgruntled) between prophercies and factions.

Factions

Great environment, music, storyline, long, yeah...

Nightfall was basically better.

Nightfall for the Heroes.

But I really really like factions scenery more than Nightfall - nightfall looks... uniform...

Factions

+ Best armour styles in the game
+ Varied areas: Echovald Forest and Jade Sea are cool
+ Some really vital skills I don't think I could live without!
+ Alliance Battles

- Kaineng City is dull, unattractive and difficult to navigate; it's a relief to escape
- Plot is somewhat dumb at times
- A few too many missions where you require human healers to protect NPC's
- Very linear storyline: areas must be unlocked in a specific order
- Master level on missions is achieved by beating time limits

Nightfall

+ Access to heroes
+ Better plot, some amusing cut scenes
+ Less linearity, more freedom to roam around
+ More challenging late-game
+ More varied mission types
+ Free Treasure chests!!

- Skills aren't so great (with a few exceptions)
- Scenery is very, very samey
- A lot of 'fed-ex' quests early on
- People will be doing everything with their heroes....don't expect invites

I agree there is wayyyy too much sand XD

I prefer Nightfall. Though I do only PvE. In Factions, it starts off quite good (I really enjoyed Shing Jea Island, despite the voice actors), but once I hit Kaineng City, it was really hard to keep pushing through. I didn't mind the grind to get Sunspear points in Nightfall. Kaineng City is the worst grind I have ever experienced.

Also, with Nightfall you get heroes, which means you don't feel the need to PUG till later in the game when everyone has developed at least some skills in the game. And of course there's the storyline. Main reason I play GW is because I love the storyline. Factions just didn't hold my interest with its dull storyline. Nightfall's is almost as good as Prophecies.

So yeah, if you prefer PvE, I'd go with Nightfall. If you prefer PvP, probably Factions is the better bet (judging by how often my guild does AB, there must be something good about it, right?)

Regardless of the pros and cons of each, if you're absolutely sure you're going to buy both at some point, it makes sense to do Nightfall first so you have heroes to use in both games.

The levelling is nowhere near as slow as that of prophecies! What is the point of leveling fast might I ask? Why do you have to be level 20? It's not like you can't do anything until you reach level 20. If you want to reach level 20 so fast make a PvP character! It isn't a race to reach the level cap, the point of the game is to finish the storyline.

Also, if you find the storyline long, why play it at all? I honestly don't get why people complain about it taking so long to level and so long to finish the campaign when there's no reason to. Then once they do finish it they complain about the game being boring (though I'm not saying this is the case with you).