trouble with vista

Fava

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i just bought GW and installed it. brand new computer with vista. it installs fine, downloads fine but when i run the game all i hear is the ocean and all i see is a black screen. no mouse, no nothing. i tried reinstalling but got the same results. can someone help please?! thanks!

fava

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For start update display drivers.

Fava

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drivers are all up to date. still doesnt work.

Aambei

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Well, Vista got alots of problems... And i don't know anything about Vista , sorry, maybe update Vista?

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everything is up to date. i have no idea ... D:

cannonfodder

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aambei
Well, Vista got alots of problems... And i don't know anything about Vista , sorry, maybe update Vista?
Please enlighten me/us what the "lots of problems" are?, I am using vista with no problems whatsoever, and so are many people on this forum.

To the OP there has been some issues with nvidia drivers and creative drivers, but that cannot be blamed on vista or microsoft. Please provide your PC specs so we can assist you.

There is no point posting what Aambei did, it is not helpful in the slightest.


cannonfodder

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NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS
AGEIA PhysX PCI Card
2gb RAM
Intel Dual Core [email protected]

what im running currently

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I dont know much about the physics card, what I do know is that they are pretty bad, quality and performancewise, If I was you I would physically remove it and all the drivers associated with it. Plus the fact there is not many games that can actually use the ppu. Try that first to see if its that that is causing your issue.

One question, did the Aegia come as standard with the PC or did you buy it? your pc is very powerful, and if you did buy it you should have saved your money.

Fava

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the card came with it. was a packaged deal type thing. and while im comfortable in going into the computer and pulling it out im not comfortable doing that to a computer that is 3 days old. im just going to hope that the ppu is not the issue and try other ideas. is there a way to disable the card w/o completely uninstalling it? or to disable for just GW?

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I can understand your concerns, you could try to see if there is an option in ageia control panel to disable it. GW does not use it and is not been patched to use the ppu's effects, but its pressence there especially the driver could be whats causing the problem, but that is only me going on what I know about them.

Try to see if there are any problems related to vista and the ppu, I have to go now, but I will log back in later.

good luck

Fava

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thanks for the help tho man!

Fava

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i disabled the card and it did the same thing. so now im completely stumped. oh well, shrug. time for bed now but ill check back in the am. thanks for all your help!

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There might be something like Gateways EZ-tune software on your computer causing the problem. I had a similiar problem when I bought a new Gateway 22 inch widescreen lcd monitor. I installd their EZ-Tune software and all I would see was a black screen or worse a white line in the middle of the screen with sound but no usable picture. After trial and error I finaly decided to remove the EZ-Tune software and now have no problems. Check for any software that tunes your monitor and remove it. That should fix theproblem. As far as Vista goes the 32 bit version is working out rather good with several of the popular games. The problem occurs when players try to run the 64 bit version due to a lack of support by the manufacturers.


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Make sure you are running as admin for the program in Vista(right lcick icon, properties should see a check box to click to allow to run as admin). EZ tune does suck, uninstalled it myself , Check the video card for compatability. It may be the offbrand doesnt like the graphics in GW. Since it was prebuilt check the warranty and support for it and see what they say.

Fava

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I got the computer from alienware so there is no eztune. ya know, this problem is probly very easy to fix we are all just looking over something so obvious and will laugh about it later. but right now, its driving me nuts!!

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Vista works fine for me, but have you tried running it in XP SP2 compatibility mode?

Just for the record, Alienware are shite!

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Do other games work?

viper008

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Fava
Try uninstalling the video card drivers and just use the Vista's DEFAULT drivers and see what happens


Well I'm running Vista with an Aegia card and no problems at all with GW or any other app/game.

To Azagoth

That said Alienware is shit well that’s your opinion, It's funny I benchmarked mine against my friends that said the same thing and my box out performed theirs.

Best part is I won my Alienware pc from a contest

Teelana Singh

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I had this problem happen when I first installed Vista. Black screen, no mouse, just sound. It was a problem with the drivers. I installed older Vista drivers (ver. 97.46) and everything worked fine. I've now upgraded to the newest Vista drivers off of Nvidia's website. I would give that a shot...if that doesn't work, I would try drivers from tweaksrus.com or download drivercleaner and install the drivers that they recommend. Good luck!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by viper008
To Azagoth

That said Alienware is shit well that’s your opinion,
Not just mine, but everybody I know who's been conned into buying an Alienware POS! Each one of them has declared that never again will they even think about getting one.

Home building is always the best, my current rig will easily wipe the floor with any Alienware system yet it cost about 1/3 of the price to build.

dronex

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Is it 64bit vista? try to update/install drivers aswell as directx .... vista has 10 but not 9 ... (had problems with fear and vista but installing dx9 helps)

kh1ndjal

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dronex
vista has 10 but not 9
no, vista does not have 10, dx10 has not been released as of writing this


im running gw on vista ultimate fine, exactly as on xp, only difference for me is that after loadscreen the screen goes blank for a fraction of a second. i have latest dx9 n my nvidia drivers (for vista) up to date
hope this helps

viper008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
Not just mine, but everybody I know who's been conned into buying an Alienware POS! Each one of them has declared that never again will they even think about getting one.

Home building is always the best, my current rig will easily wipe the floor with any Alienware system yet it cost about 1/3 of the price to build.
HAHAH, yeah what ever

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kh1ndjal
no, vista does not have 10, dx10 has not been released as of writing this
Sorry what? DX10 comes as standard with DX10

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Quote:
no, vista does not have 10, dx10 has not been released as of writing this
Erm what ?

i run in on vista too ;]

Dex

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Quote:
Originally Posted by viper008
HAHAH, yeah what ever
I can't comment on Alienware being good or bad, but I can comment on them being expensive. No computer manufacturer is doing anything different than any other person who's building a computer (besides sometimes using custom motherboards that typically have fewer features and are cheaper to manufacture).

Therefore, since Alienware PCs are absolutely overpriced for their specs, Azagoth's comment that a faster machine can be built for less money is absolutely true. There's not really much room to dispute that, as a matter of fact.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
I can't comment on Alienware being good or bad, but I can comment on them being expensive. No computer manufacturer is doing anything different than any other person who's building a computer (besides sometimes using custom motherboards that typically have fewer features and are cheaper to manufacture).

Therefore, since Alienware PCs are absolutely overpriced for their specs, Azagoth's comment that a faster machine can be built for less money is absolutely true. There's not really much room to dispute that, as a matter of fact.
Well I'm going to tell you the same thing I told him

That’s your opinion, It's funny I benchmarked mine against my friends that said the same thing and my box out performed theirs.

Than again I really don't care what you or anyone esle can build what ever at cheaper price it doesn't always going to get you faster specs same for more costly price.

So like I said HAHAH, yeah what ever

Dex

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Quote:
Originally Posted by viper008
Well I'm going to tell you the same thing I told him

That’s your opinion, It's funny I benchmarked mine against my friends that said the same thing and my box out performed theirs.

Than again I really don't care what you or anyone esle can build what ever at cheaper price it doesn't always going to get you faster specs same for more costly price.

So like I said HAHAH, yeah what ever
So, do you think that Alienware is charging more for some kind of magical spell that makes their systems faster, then? Seriously?!?!?

If you've ever looked into building a system you'd know what we're talking about. The specs on your friend's computer are obviously not the same as yours. Perhaps close, but they're obviously not using the same components under the covers. Alienware has the same base components available to them that everyone else does. That fact and their pricing is not an opinion. I'm not ripping on your PC, just stating facts. I've been doing this stuff for a looooong time. Not going to argue with you about it. Thinking that Alienware systems are somehow magically faster doesn't make any sense.

Alienware are overpriced. It's no secret, my friend. It's a quite well-known fact throughout the hardware enthusiast community. Why don't you do some research on it? No need to get your feathers all ruffled about it. Relax.

viper008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
So, do you think that Alienware is charging more for some kind of magical spell that makes their systems faster, then? Seriously?!?!?

If you've ever looked into building a system you'd know what we're talking about. The specs on your friend's computer are obviously not the same as yours. Perhaps close, but they're obviously not using the same components under the covers. Alienware has the same base components available to them that everyone else does. That fact and their pricing is not an opinion. I'm not ripping on your PC, just stating facts. I've been doing this stuff for a looooong time. Not going to argue with you about it. Thinking that Alienware systems are somehow magically faster doesn't make any sense.

Alienware are overpriced. It's no secret, my friend. It's a quite well-known fact throughout the hardware enthusiast community. Why don't you do some research on it? No need to get your feathers all ruffled about it. Relax.
I have built many pc's thanks and you don't get the HINT I don't care and your just wasting your time trying to argue with me.

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@the OP: Have you tried this:
  1. Download the newest drivers for your video card
  2. Completely uninstall the current video drivers
  3. Reboot, if prompted to add new hardware cancel out
  4. Install the video driver you downloaded
  5. Reboot
The reason that I suggest this is that several people I've spoken to recently have purchased PCs with corrupted/dodgy video driver installs from the factory. Uninstalling and reinstalling the driver oftentimes helps this. Black screens are, 9 times out of 10, video driver issues. The driver may be up-to-date, but it might be a bad installation.

Quote:
Originally Posted by viper008
I have built many pc's thanks and you don't get the HINT I don't care and your just wasting your time trying to argue with me.
Not arguing with you. I just thought that clarifying that point might be helpful to others. You obviously aren't interested in hearing anything that contradicts your opinion, and are therefore incapable of participating in an actual argument in the first place, so why would I bother?

viper008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
Not arguing with you. I just thought that clarifying that point might be helpful to others. You obviously aren't interested in hearing anything that contradicts your opinion, and are therefore incapable of participating in an actual argument in the first place, so why would I bother?
Everyone always says THEY can build one faster and better and cheaper. That where I stopped "HAHA WHAT EVER" nothing more to say really but you still don't get it do you?

Just the facts, Cheaper (or coslty) doesn't always mean faster or better is why the ""HAHA WHAT EVER"

Congrats on admitting that you are arguing with me.

You and the other guy are just basing your info on opioins from friends or whatever etc. The fact is with Billions of products sold every single day you will always have X amount people say I will never buy from so and so again and this and that is overpriced. Compared to the people that will buy from so and so again and had good experience with X products. With you and the other guy coming in here bashing X product is really helpful? I think Not, You are trying to use your influence over other people that may read & reading this thread to think other wise which wrong.

So know that I've spelled it out for you have a nice life

Syndren

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Quote:
Originally Posted by viper008
Everyone always says THEY can build one faster and better and cheaper. That where I stopped "HAHA WHAT EVER" nothing more to say really but you still don't get it do you?

Just the facts, Cheaper (or coslty) doesn't always mean faster or better is why the ""HAHA WHAT EVER"

Congrats on admitting that you are arguing with me.

You and the other guy are just basing your info on opioins from friends or whatever etc. The fact is with Billions of products sold every single day you will always have X amount people say I will never buy from so and so again and this and that is overpriced. Compared to the people that will buy from so and so again and had good experience with X products. With you and the other guy coming in here bashing X product is really helpful? I think Not, You are trying to use your influence over other people that may read & reading this thread to think other wise which wrong.

So know that I've spelled it out for you have a nice life
Urrrgggg I detest replying to posts like these but I can't let a comment like this slide.

Alienware 'product' compromises of the exact same material as any other computer (of the same type). Maybe their case has more fan capacity or maybe its sturdier but two exact systems (regardless of brand name) will rank exactly the same - assuming the same environment and same background processes.

If Nike has a shirt made of 100% cotton and Blue Navy (ok first thing that came to mind) came out with the exact same shirt but with no logo the quality of the shirt is no different. You are paying for a brand name.

There is nothing wrong with paying for a brand name if you are proud of the company (or various other reasons) but as someone else mentioned there is no 'magic' involved in the piecing together of a computer that Alienware has an advantage over.

There is clearly a difference in approach between you and the people your 'arguing' with. I right now am seeing them as level headed and they are definitely not trying to push their opinions on you. You need to take a breather and cool down.

If you do believe in magic though... I make computers with my ultra secret special sauce.

EDIT: to try to be more in topic....
This should not happen for GW but try to set the GW.exe to only one core. But lets try to cover all the bases shall we?
ctrl-alt-del -> Task Manager -> Processes -> Select and right-click GW.exe -> select "Set Affinity" -> only select "CPU 0"



Also try the suggested re installation of the video driver as Dex has mentioned.

You may also want to try a 3-rd party video driver and see if that solves your issue

viper008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Syndren
Urrrgggg I detest replying to posts like these but I can't let a comment like this slide.

Alienware 'product' compromises of the exact same material as any other computer (of the same type). Maybe their case has more fan capacity or maybe its sturdier but two exact systems (regardless of brand name) will rank exactly the same - assuming the same environment and same background processes.

If Nike has a shirt made of 100% cotton and Blue Navy (ok first thing that came to mind) came out with the exact same shirt but with no logo the quality of the shirt is no different. You are paying for a brand name.

There is nothing wrong with paying for a brand name if you are proud of the company (or various other reasons) but as someone else mentioned there is no 'magic' involved in the piecing together of a computer that Alienware has an advantage over.

There is clearly a difference in approach between you and the people your 'arguing' with. I right now am seeing them as level headed and they are definitely trying to push their opinions on you. You need to take a breather and cool down.

If you do believe in magic though... I make computers with my ultra secret special sauce.
"take a breather and cool down" Now that's funny, oh and read first page I got mine for FREE from a contest.

"detest replying to posts like these" Because its true?

Syndren

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Quote:
Originally Posted by viper008
"take a breather and cool down" Now that's funny, oh and read first page I got mine for FREE from a contest.

"detest replying to posts like these" Because its true?
I was referring to in general its ok to buy a brand name. Everyone does it some time or another - because.. you know... your not the only one that is going to read my reply.

Quote:
"detest replying to posts like these" Because its true?
umm... yes? I do detest replying to posts like the one you posted before. They always bring a reply like this which I feel is inadequate.

P.S trolling much? :P

viper008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Syndren
P.S trolling much? :P
Nope, I did actually offer some help like many others did as well, on first page.

Fava

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dex
@the OP: Have you tried this:
  1. Download the newest drivers for your video card
  2. Completely uninstall the current video drivers
  3. Reboot, if prompted to add new hardware cancel out
  4. Install the video driver you downloaded
  5. Reboot
The reason that I suggest this is that several people I've spoken to recently have purchased PCs with corrupted/dodgy video driver installs from the factory. Uninstalling and reinstalling the driver oftentimes helps this. Black screens are, 9 times out of 10, video driver issues. The driver may be up-to-date, but it might be a bad installation.
Did all that and still black screen. Do you think it could be my ppu thats causing it?

cannonfodder

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OK quit the arguing about alienware..... DO NOT hijack this guys thread, either contribute or dont post, simple as that....


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viper008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fava
Did all that and still black screen. Do you think it could be my ppu thats causing it?
You can disable the Ageia card in device manager also without having to take it out of the pc and see if you get the same results.

viper008

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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannonfodder
OK quit the arguing about alienware..... DO NOT hijack this guys thread, either contribute or dont post, simple as that....


cannonfodder
Exactly, I tried but they can't the hint for some reason but few want to be push overs and harass me in Via PM.

Fava

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i disabled the ageia processor and rebooted. still black screen and ocean sound. oh my god what is wrong with my computer?!?!