Rilohn Refuge Spider Farm

dubiel005

dubiel005

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

det.

idk

Mo/E

Ok i've been farming these spiders for a while now ever since i've seen some european guy farming them on youtube. It's a very simple farm and doable with any profession. The only skill you really need for this build is Spiteful Spirit and optional skills for running and Reckless Haste and Suffering help. I know some people already know about this farm but I just added because I didnt see anything about it on here and i was bored.

The build I'm running includes the skills (N/A)
Spiteful Spirit (E)
Suffering
Reckless Haste
Dark Espace
Dash
Shadow Refuge
Shadow of Haste
Well of Suffering
Attributes include-12 (+4) Curses, 8 Death Magic, 8 (+1) Soul Reaping 4 Shadow Magic.The weapon I use is a Stonereaper but any staff would be fine.

Start out by going to Rilohn Refuge. Go into The Floodplain of Mahnkelon. Go to the left, and run past the first group of enemies. Stay to the right and cast Shadow of Haste if you have it. Keep running to the right staying along the wall untill you aggro the spiders. If you have Shadow of Haste either wait for the skill to end or cast another running skill. If you dont have shadow of haste then run back trying not to die untill you loose aggro. If u die dont go past where you aggroed the spiders because you can loose most of the spiders this way. Let all of them buch up and then go aggro. Postion yourself behind the wall to the right so you don't take any dmg. Cast SS and any other skills on the boss and wait for it and all the others to die. Cash is ok lots of dyes can usually sell green bow for about 5k, a good alternative to other farm builds.

Heres some pics (hope they work)
Attributes and Skills-


Where to cast Shadow of Haste-


Where the spiders spawn-


Where to postion yourself-


Damage-


Like I said you can do this with any profession just need Spiteful Spirit, but to do extra dmg. you can add Awaken the Blood.

PM me if you have any questions my ign is Chris Dub. Hope you liked my guide (first one ive ever made) good luck.

Rainman

Rainman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

none

P/

nice guide but i would stick to using savannah heat meteor shower and teinais heat uber fast

btw salvage al the silken spider webs... they give u a bolt of silk 9/10 times

MrGuildBoi

MrGuildBoi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

A/

I think EoE Bombing with E/R is easier.

crucifix

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ohio

R/Mo

the e/a ms/savannah build is the fastest. e/r takes too long with the setup. I use an n/a, as every run takes approx 1 min 30 sec.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

N/R - best of both worlds.
Spiteful Spirit (E)
Reckless Haste
Edge of Extinction
Storm Chaser

No other skills required.

There a much easier way to position yourself too. Loop around the back and stand on the bridge above them so their arrows get obstructed (I even did this as an W/R using tripple chop/Cyclone Axe to get my treasure hunter title up during the easter weekend )

Ben1014

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Creed of the Forsaken

W/

Where is the build to farm these spiders with an E/A that uses ms and savannah heat?

lord_shar

lord_shar

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

Fastest killer I've seen is E/R, using EoE with Sandstorm, Churning Earth, and Earthquake. Everything dies in less than 10 seconds.

P A L P H R A M O N D

P A L P H R A M O N D

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Washington, D.C.

Me/

I am a Me/N, and use:

Spiteful Spirit
Price of Failure
Archane Echo
Defile Enchantments
Desecrate Enchantments
Auspicious Incantation
Distortion
Illusion of Haste

Go Auspicious, Arcane, SS, SS, I was just trying to maximize energy management. It kills very quickly, I would guess . . . in about 15 seconds, another few more for the boss. I don't like Reckless Haste since it costs more energy now, and this build was helped alot when SS was lowered to 10. Anyways, fun easy farm, just got a Black Dye and Silver dye in one run about 5 minutes ago.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_shar
Fastest killer I've seen is E/R, using EoE with Sandstorm, Churning Earth, and Earthquake. Everything dies in less than 10 seconds. I would have thought shockwave, aftershock, crystalwave, tenai's crystals would be faster.

Anyone tried this one? I would, except my ele hasn't been through factions =(

Desolation

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

gA

so can this be done with a d/n?
with these skills?
Spiteful Spirit
Archane Echo
Defile Enchantments
Desecrate Enchantments

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Desolation
so can this be done with a d/n?
with these skills?
Spiteful Spirit
Archane Echo
Defile Enchantments
Desecrate Enchantments You'd be better off with:

Edge of Extinction
Pious Haste
Heart of Fury
Heart of the Holy Flame
Chilling Victory
Ermites Attack
Mystic Sweep
Ermite's Zeal


Stand on top of the bridge and scythe them to death.

gaiaplay

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

How can you outrun the Rampaging Beast in Hard mode? Even with 33% Haste they dont seem to break in HM.

P A L P H R A M O N D

P A L P H R A M O N D

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Washington, D.C.

Me/

I have seen a video of it being done on youtube, I suppose search there and see if you can pick out a tactic from the video. Maybe also use the movement to your advantage, like waiting for them to get as close to the rez shrine as possible before running through, maybe they will break aggro sooner.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

Try planting a stancing koss in the middle of them before running through.

gaiaplay

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

in Hard Mode, I believe SS is still the best kill mechanics. If you nuke them they scatter.

gaiaplay

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

ignore dbl post

WildmouseX

WildmouseX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by gaiaplay
How can you outrun the Rampaging Beast in Hard mode? Even with 33% Haste they dont seem to break in HM.
i use both dash and dark escape to get past them... right when you agro the group hit dash, which lasts 3 seconds, just as it's about end hit dark escape. - escape isn't fast enough to break agro, but it is enough to keep them from gaining on you - as soon as dash is recharged, hit it again and you will be able to break agro, then you can refuge the health you lost back.

it doesn't quite work 100% of the time, but for the most part you can out run em. when the drake spawns, he'll sneek in a knock down which will screw you over - and if more then 2 of the mesmurs spawn you sometimes don't live long enough to break agro.

Wildi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

PvE is the Metagame

Quote:
Originally Posted by gaiaplay
How can you outrun the Rampaging Beast in Hard mode? Even with 33% Haste they dont seem to break in HM. death's charge + dash + dark escape

WildmouseX

WildmouseX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/R

i've posted a guildies build for useing an El with the sin skills in another thread, but figured it should go in here as well

[skill]Fire Attunement[/skill][skill]Glyph of Renewal[/skill][skill]meteor shower[/skill][skill]Rodgort's Invocation[/skill][skill]dash[/skill][skill]dark escape[/skill][skill]shadow of haste[/skill][skill]Immolate[/skill]

it's not as fast at killing the mob as SS is, but it's still pretty quick, a run is still around 4-5 min. without shadows refuge for healing up from the hex's of the first group, you do die a little more frequently too. basicly stay on meteor shower and rodgorts untill everyone but fastfoot is dead, then spam immolate till he drops.

gaiaplay

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

Does the technique only works with melee/archer mobs? I wonder if this will work against Spellcaster/Hexers mobs if there is a way to negate their spell.

Lelina

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

I used following (solo HM)

Blood Magic: 3
Curses: 16 (12+4)
Shadow Arts: 12

- Spiteful Spirit [Elite] (Curses)
- Price of Failure (Curses)
- Suffering (Curses)
- Awaken the Blood (Bloodmagic)
- Death's Charge (Shadow Arts)
- Dash (Assassin None)
- Shadow of Haste (Shadow Arts)
- Dark Escape (Shadow Arts)
- Feigned Neutrality (Shadow Arts)

[skill]Spiteful Spirit[/skill][skill]Price of Failure[/skill][skill]Suffering[/skill][skill]Awaken the Blood[/skill][skill]Death's Charge[/skill][skill]Dash[/skill][skill]Shadow of Haste[/skill][skill]Dark Escape[/skill]


edit// little changes:

Skills
[skill]Feigned Neutrality[/skill] -> [skill]Awaken the blood[/skill]

Attributes
3 Soul Reaping -> 3 Blood Magic

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

tried the OP's build a gazillion times, can never get past the first group alive, and once spiders aggro cannot live long enough to run away and let them bunch up. Would appreciate someone who can do this to take me for a run so I can watch...in the meantime I guess I will continue to kill first group with hench, then plant goren to take spider spawn and when he dies rebirth him out flag away and then kill them...but my God that is slow.

edit: ok, added feigned neutrality and can now lose the spiders and stay alive but still cannot pass first group

edit #2 -- got a run, now I feel so stupid....this is easiest boss farm I have done to date, also can do it with n/r and level a pet superfast in HM took like 5-6 runs to get pet from level 5 to 20

TSS

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

Retired from GW until GW2

A/P

I use E/Rt:


16earth
4-5nrg storage
12restoration

[skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill][skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Kinetic Armor[/skill][skill]Armor Of Earth[/skill][skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Earth Attunement[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill] or [skill]Stone Striker[/skill] or if you want because you have an enchant mod, hopefully use [skill]Storm Djinn's Haste[/skill]

one of those kinetic armor symbols is Armor of Earth, but its messed up.
run out, activate armor skills, use VWK and Vengeful when they are needed, use sliver armor also, use Aura of Res to keep up kinetic armor.

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

R/

I was messing around with this run at the weekend using a N/A build. The run is simple and fast, but it has further reinforced my opinion that the faster you kill things the worse the drops.

If I lured the whole group and quickly SS'd them to death, then I would usually get 1-4 drops.

Changing tactics to luring them with a Long Bow in small groups of 3 at a time, I found that killing them this way consistently resulted in many more drops.

NEOgeo

NEOgeo

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Im Paper nerf Scissor Rock is [fine]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hengis Stone
I was messing around with this run at the weekend using a N/A build. The run is simple and fast, but it has further reinforced my opinion that the faster you kill things the worse the drops.

If I lured the whole group and quickly SS'd them to death, then I would usually get 1-4 drops.

Changing tactics to luring them with a Long Bow in small groups of 3 at a time, I found that killing them this way consistently resulted in many more drops. interesting, i might try my dervish then and stand on the bridge as previously stated

EDIT, cant seem to kill them from above, as soon as u agro them they run the long way round and come uptop *sigh*

Dogma Blutlust

Dogma Blutlust

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Germany...

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gaiaplay
Does the technique only works with melee/archer mobs? I wonder if this will work against Spellcaster/Hexers mobs if there is a way to negate their spell.
for example the skales in fow have a "long-bow-range" if u got out of aggro.circle they on attack and wont cast any spell...so they are farmable easy with VwK^^

NEOgeo

NEOgeo

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Im Paper nerf Scissor Rock is [fine]

descided to test out for sure whether speed of killing realy affects drops, and i was astonished ,

also keep in mind that i had never tried this farming spot even one time before this test with each char,

first run i took ss + reckless haste (important note, i DIDNT use suffering, theres a well known GW bug were if u kill something vs degen then they usually wont drop anything at all ) ...

the results of this run were so bad that its quicker to type the drops than to take a pic, all i got was 2 drops of 100'ish gold, No items at all of any kind, but the group died really quickly,

so next i got my ele and made an invoke lightning build, invoke only hits the target +2 others near , and here are the results :O



yes, it was slow, but this method seems to completly negate loot scaling of any kind , food for thought, no ?

Francis Crawford

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

So is this farm the reason the price of silk has plummeted?

NEOgeo

NEOgeo

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Im Paper nerf Scissor Rock is [fine]

just got the same high amount of drops as my above invoke build, but using this one instead, a bit faster but slower to kill the boss, more convienient than anything else incase u dont have an ele, as the ele build has more synergy with killing the spiders + the boss at same time, and funny to see them pwn the minions u make ( i had an extra skil slot, might aswell at a minion .. something like putrid explosion is too harsh and kills them TOO quick )

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edit, does anyone know what the template tags are ? :<

Memphis Rain

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis Crawford
So is this farm the reason the price of silk has plummeted?

Far from it, you might get 1 silk from each spider web, but bolts of silks drop a lot more in the Holcyon Job farming.

walmart_player

walmart_player

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

[DT]

man when i do this farm im lucky to get 2 drops, why are you guys getting so many drops? do i have a farm flag or something?


srry i didnt read your post....i just looked at the pic.

so the speed that you kill them affects drops?!?

hotman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

is this possible in HM, and is it possible ot get run here from the command post?

rg6199

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2007

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by hotman
is this possible in HM, and is it possible ot get run here from the command post? yes and yes

now an update(i guess).....been testing the theory of drops doing mass kills vs. single kills here. on average, i get 4 drops a run using maxed ss, and an average of 10-12 drops a run killing them 1 at a time.

i found a happy medium between the super fast ss and the super slow solo kill. drop curses down to 12, 12 in blood, and everything else in sr.
i cast ss first which brings them way down, but doesn't kill em, then hit em twice(somtimes 3 times) with vamp gaze and they die. the boss takes 2 ss's and a few vamp gazes, but the little bit of extra time seems to be paying off.


ya i know my sentance structure and capitalization sucks, but i'm tired, so you'll have to forgive me

NEOgeo

NEOgeo

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Im Paper nerf Scissor Rock is [fine]

Quote:
Originally Posted by rg6199
yes and yes

now an update(i guess).....been testing the theory of drops doing mass kills vs. single kills here. on average, i get 4 drops a run using maxed ss, and an average of 10-12 drops a run killing them 1 at a time.

i found a happy medium between the super fast ss and the super slow solo kill. drop curses down to 12, 12 in blood, and everything else in sr.
i cast ss first which brings them way down, but doesn't kill em, then hit em twice(somtimes 3 times) with vamp gaze and they die. the boss takes 2 ss's and a few vamp gazes, but the little bit of extra time seems to be paying off.


ya i know my sentance structure and capitalization sucks, but i'm tired, so you'll have to forgive me if u use SS @ 14 curses, it leaves them all with litle hp, then use deatly swarm to kill 3 at a time, in my tests killing 3 at a time is the same as 1 at a time

AngeloM3

AngeloM3

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

RI

Diciples of Rage [RAGE]

Sorry to bring up a dead thread..... but....

Wow this farm is dead! Farmed it 4 times in a row last night and every time only about 3 spiders dropped either 100ish gold or a white weapon. Only good thing about this farm is that there is usually a locked chest in the area.