A Possible Reference...

The Star Trek: Voyager episode "Alice" just aired on Spike as I was playing GW tonight and as soon as I heard his name, I began to think he may be the inspiration for a certain outcast god. Since GW is full of pop-culture references, it may very well be true.

Could this guy be the real namesake for Tyria's God of Knowledge? Despite what the Wiki's talk page says is the origin of his name, I just think some Anet designer is a Trekkie.

oo, he looks like abbadon too.

Abaddon = A Bad One? XD

Abaddon is a powerful dark angel, an engel from Satan in the bible, so I'm pretty sure there's a reason they chose that name..

so basically, you watch star trek, but fail @ bible? Good deal, you're on the right track! see you in hell!

Samcobra, i find it downright insulting that you implied people who fail @ bible will go to hell. not everyone is a christian / baptist / catholic etc ...
please be aware of that fact. FYI, i am a buddhist, which influences from taoism.


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actually, i never give much thoughts to the abaddon's name. i thought its just a name that anet made up... something like charr, whiptail etc...
until this thread made me search wiki.

Quote from wiki:

Abaddon (Hebrew:אבדון,Avaddon - destruction) , in demonology, was chief of the demons of the seventh hierarchy. He was called The Destroyer and, in the Book of Revelation, St John called him the King of the locusts (Rev 9: 7-11).

The Thanksgiving Hymns—a copy was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls—tells of "the Sheol of Abaddon" and of the "torrents of Belial [that] burst into Abaddon". The Biblical Antiquities of Philo mentions Abaddon as a place (sheol, hell), not as a spirit or demon or angel. In Paradise Regained, Milton also uses Abaddon as a place—the pit. It appears to have been St. John who first personified the term to stand for an angel. In the 3rd century Acts of Thomas, Abaddon is the name of a demon, or the Devil himself. Abaddon has also been identified as the angel of death and destruction, demon of the abyss, and chief of demons of the underworld hierarchy, where he is equated with Samael or Satan. In magic and alchemy, Abaddon is the Destroying Angel of the Apocalypse. In Barrett's The Magus, Abaddon is pictured, in colour, as one of the evil demons. In medieval myth, Abaddon was considered as a synonym for Hell and/or the ruler thereof, and in Revelations 9:7-11, he was the Christian angel of Hell. The Hebrew word abadon, from which the name is derived, means "destruction" (Job 26:8 and Psalms 88:11).

Abaddon has also been considered the Hebrew name for the Greek god Apollyon.

Not long after Judeo-Christian teachings taught the name of this demon, Abaddon referred to the pit or cave that was used in mystery religions and schools as a rite of passage into the greater mysteries. Often the experience would entail the use of ritual substances that put the aspirant into an altered state in which he or she could receive divine revelation. Because the experience was sometimes unpleasant, this rite came to be viewed as being "hellish." However, it was considered absolutely necessary so that the seeker may become pure enough to encounter the "mind of God", as an angel is described as the "Angel of the bottomless pit who binds Satan for a thousand years".

In occultism and esoterism, Abaddon is related to blood red, brown and green colours, winter, the month of January, Saturday, intuition, sacrifice and challenge, the ruby and the sword. His Tarot symbol is the one of judgement.


kinda interesting to read that o.O;;

Well, there is also abandon planet of Charr in Transformers G1 cartoon.So i doubt Anet made it.

I hope you enjoy your stay - blood fire death - nice place.

Just so you know, Satan has been disposed, and a few of my friends run the place now

Uppon my arival, I am to be placed in charge of security.

Bummer sitting at a desk all day looking at a screen making sure the regulars are swiping their security badges. But on the plus side I hear the pay sucks too.

If I was you I'd ask for a reassignment

This comment is the most pollitically incorrect thing i have ever seen posted on this forum, unless it's 'sarcasm' - it's extremely difficult to tell in text.

Do not pass GO..
Do not collect 200 Dollars..

Star trek, bible,... what is the difference, they are both fiction.

Prepare for this thread to reach 5 pages, with all posts being flames on this post.

So basically, you play with half naked elementalists, thus you fail @ bible?!

No flames from me. I thought it was funny, but that might have something to do with me being an atheist.

I think you'll find Abaddon is a blatant ripp off of the one and only Andross



Fox McCloud FTW!

holy uptight better-than-thous, batman! I haven't seen this many overreactions in page one ever! Chill out ppl.......and don't take yourselves so seriously.

Anyway Abaddon, it's likeness and meanings, have been around a *******LOT****** longer than Star Trek. To suggest that such a forgettable series was a major influence in GW is kinda silly. I know there are lots of esoteric references to obscure things, but Abaddon isn't one.

If you really want to play at reference-finding, use the lore forum. Regardless, keep this kind of argument off the boards entirely.