What's the better build?

damon66

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

I can't decide what a better ranger build is, a barrager or a burning arrow/screaming shot/apply poison for massive health degeneration. I'm playing just general PvE, nothing in particular, just making it through the game. The problem with barrage is I find myself not dealing enough damage, or just not hitting more than 1 enemy at once. With the burning arrow/screaming shot/apply poison I always run out of energy for one thing, and again it seems like the whole health degeneration idea doesn't work.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

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I would say the barrage ranger.

AoE is always good.

spun ducky

spun ducky

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

WTB: q8 bows

R/N

It changes with each area i just switch back and forth with different areas along with you must take condition removing mobs into account for burning arrow build.

Amy Awien

Amy Awien

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

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What is your attribute setup? It should be possible to maintain BA, energy wise.

Poison isn't that effective when the opponent is dead 5 seconds after getting poisoned. It's useful against bosses and their groups.

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

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I use a general Barrage/Pet build for PvE, and it works fine in most cases.

[skill]Barrage[/skill][skill]Distracting Shot[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Whirling Defense[/skill][skill]Troll Unguent[/skill][skill]Comfort Animal[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill]

Only barrage and the two animal skills are set in stone for the build. The rest depend on the area you're exploring and your second profession.

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by malko050987
I use a general Barrage/Pet build for PvE, and it works fine in most cases.

[skill]Barrage[/skill][skill]Distracting Shot[/skill][skill]Savage Shot[/skill][skill]Whirling Defense[/skill][skill]Troll Unguent[/skill][skill]Comfort Animal[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill]

Only barrage and the two animal skills are set in stone for the build. The rest depend on the area you're exploring and your second profession. minus Distracting shot and add in rebirth and you have the build that sucessfully took me all the way through prophecies (back in the days before the Factions and NF skills)

Arwen Erina

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

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or you could take:

Broad Head Arrow
Pindown
Read The Wind
Distracting shot/savage shot
Trow dirt
Lightning Reflexes (better then whirling after the buff)
Running skill
Rez

Marks: 12+1+3
Expertise: 12+1
the rest where ever.
Works exeptionally good vs casters and you hav protection vs meeles to.


If you insist on bringing barrage, Try going R/Rt and bring splinterweapon.
IMHO Barrage is not the best Elite among ranger elites. its easy to use, thats why its so poppular.
Try BHA, its the greatest vs eles, monks and casters in general.

Polynikes of Sparta

Polynikes of Sparta

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Ascalon Arena

Zero I Hour [ZH]

D/N

Barrage is extremely boring to play, that's why i always run an AP/BA build whenever i can. i do sometimes run barrage, but only whenevr necessary. dont bring screaming shot, as you will already have capped degen with AP/BA. With that build, have either 12 or 14 expertise to keep up with AP/BA. Here is what I run:

apply poison
burning arrow
distracting shot
savage shot
natural stride
troll unguent
frenzy (can take mending touch)
rez sig (can take rebirth)

exp-12+1+1
Marks-11+3
WS-6+1

or

exp-11+1
marks-10+3+1
ws-10+1

the above for easier energy, the below for improved apply, nat stride, and troll unguent. at 14 marks, u can constantly maintain burn and poison with about a 1 second gap, depending if IAS is up or not. It's very fun against bosses too even though it doesnt last long on them.

~Polynikes

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

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In a few areas where there are massive swarms of mobs, like Vizunah Square, Barrage is a good choice, but for general usage, I would suggest an Apply Poison type build that can deal strong damage to single targets while able to spread poison to other foes and extend your damage.

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

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I use [skill]Read the Wind[/skill][skill]Poison Arrow[/skill] for zones where mobs can't be found. But in most places, you can easily get a mob together, with careful aggroing/a good tank/henchie(hero) manipulation

And once the mob is there, turn them into pincushions. A poison build is more effective, especially in areas with ranged enemies, but if you're like me and hate Tabbing through the enemies, it won't work properly.

kolakoski

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

New York City

Knights of Shadowpeak

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Well met!

I have had some success with the following:

Expertise 14, Marksmanship 14, Wilderness 10

Crippling Longbow of blahblah, Barbed Flatbow of blahblah, Barbed Shortbow of blahblah, Vampiric Longbow of blahblah or weapon of choice

Crippling Shot [E] OR Pin Down, Barbed Arrows, Lightening Reflexes, Whirling Defense, Trolls Unguent, Crossfire, Splintershot OR Burning Arrow [E] or Barrage [E], and free slot for Signet.

Heros: Koss has a Barbed sword, Barbarous Slash and Gash (if I capped buffed Crippling Slash, he would add it); Olias is MM with Epidemic, Death Nova and Enfeebling Blood, Monk has Extend Conditions (if I capped Fevered Dreams, someone would add it).

If no Heros, I find a place on my bar for Epidemic.

Still tweaking this build, but I like Bleeding over Poison; more synergies possible.

Wo Tan Ki, Ranger, Knights of Shadowpeak (KoS)

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

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Bleeding doesn't stack. If you play with warriors causing bleeding, you should use poison instead to have a 7 pips degen

Giga Strike

Giga Strike

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

stranded in vabbi this time

None [N/A]

I use a splinter barrger. im trying to use nightmare weapon too though.

malko050987

malko050987

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arad, Romania

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting!

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Oohh, splinter barrage rocks!

And if you add a Dual Shot for a Nightmare Weapon spike... mm, dead enemy

This needs Factions, tho, and access to it. ^_^