So called "rare" items in Elona

Dark Kal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by beanerman_99
Ok..what then is the definition of rare? I mean, I take it as meaning that it will not drop as often as other items. So then I assume (and yes I know that assume=ass*u*me) that if the item has a lower chance of dropping that it will, in essence, be much better than those that do drop frequently; even better than greens.
They changed the gold items (several months back) so that they are the only items that can have perfect mods on them, I believe, (i.e. you can only get a vamperic mod from a gold item now). Don't see much point in purple weapons, they're basicaly just as crappy as the blue items.

The main reason people are telling the OP to get over it is because they probably won't change it anyhow. I'd like gold items to all be perfect but I don't have much problems as they are either.

Corinthian

Corinthian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anyone else sick and tired of Jeweled Chalices and other mesmer items? 90% of ALL MY GOLD ITEMS EVER HAVE BEEN JEWELED CHALICES OR OTHER MESMERS ITEMS.

It's ticking me off!!!

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by fb2000
those are indeed purple ;P

sorry, couldnt help myself ;D. 13% can only drop as purples tho. 14% and 15% are the golds
That's true. His item was an accurate example.

Requirements seem to have no place in rarity. With the recent changes to weakness that makes very little sense. In fact, I've seen more re13 on Golds than Purples.

The whole color system seems to have a invisible extra layer above gold, Where everything really is rare.
There is nothing "rare" about Highly Salvageable, having no mods and a requirement of 13. I understand that many ppl want 15^50 so it's hard to define that as rare (since it's based on demand).

This is a bit off topic, But If that's the case then shouldn't they be balancing the mods? I mean, will 20% while hexed really be equal to 15^50. Instead of one just being better than the other, it should just be different. If an enemy had +33% while hexed, then It would actually be something to worry about.

At any rate, unless they add another level of rare, the Gold level has a very wide spectrum.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Kal
They changed the gold items (several months back) so that they are the only items that can have perfect mods on them, I believe, (i.e. you can only get a vamperic mod from a gold item now). Don't see much point in purple weapons, they're basicaly just as crappy as the blue items.
Not true. As a matter of fact, you can get a Gold Item with NO mods & only 1 upgrade. I just got a Gold Crippling Platinum bow Dragon Slaying. Thats 2 Upgrades & no Mod. And as fb2000 pointed out Gold Upgrades can be 14%-15% or +29-30hp etc.. Gold items don't have to have perfect anything.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corinthian
Anyone else sick and tired of Jeweled Chalices and other mesmer items?
I've noticed that a majority of the items that come from chests are Mesmer (this is me & a buddy of mine). Perhaps they are doing it since so few people are Mesmers, that way they technically give you a Gold, but it's not worth much to anyone. It's a bit annoying.

Y.T.

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

for some reason tyrian highly salvageable items almost always give u 5-8 steel or crapload of wood (once i got like 130+ wood off 1 item lol) but inscribable elonian items with measure for measure inscr mostly give u regular crafting materials, i'm not sure why it happens but...

i agree with OP it dosnt make sence to spend 1,5k on the key (well i'm not complaining on key prices i'm just trying to do the math correctly) to get high-req item with only 1 mod or inscription. its impossible to sell high-req item unless the skin is rly rare, there is no useful mods on it, so... however if u can spens some gold on keys and open not 1 chest but alot of them there is a chance to get a nice mod and mb some useful item.

it makes me wonder what anet reasoning was when they gave lvl24+ mobs in DoA non-max blue and white items.... just like smites most of DoA mobs are rly poor and drop junk that dosnt worth salvaging, its amusing and the golds/purples they drop usually have only 1 mod, in most cases its not maxed

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corinthian
Anyone else sick and tired of Jeweled Chalices and other mesmer items? 90% of ALL MY GOLD ITEMS EVER HAVE BEEN JEWELED CHALICES OR OTHER MESMERS ITEMS.

It's ticking me off!!!
I'll totally agree, it's freaking ridiculous the amount of staves, wands and focii I get from chests and what not. I wish they'd change the rates at which they drop to give more martial weapons and shields cause I'm sick of getting r11-13 mesmer wands and focii in either fast casting or inspiration.

seut

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Kal
Don't see much point in purple weapons, they're basicaly just as crappy as the blue items.
Yep, purple & blue are crap

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

I do think this ticks me and a lot of other people off. It just feels like you are getting hosed when a chest/buried treasure/or random monster drops a gold and it ends up being "improved sale value."

I MP I

I MP I

Hustler

Join Date: Nov 2006

in between GW2 servers

Mo/

I can't tell if this thread is a suggestion or a rant.... So here goes: The highly salvageable inscription isn't that bad of a mod really. Have you ever had the joy of applying it to a diamond aegis, salvaging it and getting 3 diamonds? Or ruby mauls/daggers/jeweled daggers and get several rubies/sapphires? "Measure for measure" inscriptions are one of the more useful mods imo. I will agree however that improved sale value is useless unless it's on a blue/purple item.

KerwynNasilan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2007

Brotherhood Of Vetrans

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Gold doesnt mean perticully rare. I found a purple max sword with perfect strengh and honor and sundering, a purple 15^20. sold for 40k.

Helcaraxe

Helcaraxe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

On top of a mountain

A Bad Moon Rising [Moon]

Me/Mo

I also would much rather have golds drop less often and have them be slightly better.

I also think that it is inexcusable to have areas like FoW and UW dropping non-max crap. I mean... you have to pay 1k just to get your foot in the door, AND you need to buy the key to open the chest. Assuming you are smart enough to actually make it to the chest. And when you open it, you cheer because out pops a gold. but then you look at it...

Shadow Shield (Req. 13 Strength)
Fire Magic +1 (12% chance)
+38 health while hexed.

woot....


btw... I have NEVER.... EVER..... on any of my characters got a gold drop that was actually worth something.

ScorpiusX

ScorpiusX

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Hitching a ride on the road to nowhere a.k.a. Yorkshire, England

Children of Melandru [HOPE]

Guild Wars has Gold items????? The way my drops have been for the last 3 months you wouldn't believe that to be the case (and I haven't been farming in that time except for Sunspear and Lightbringer points), in fact it would be fair to say that if it wasn't for the money from the treasures then I would be totally skint. The last 6 treasure I've opened were purple bleedin items. You got a gold be happy with that. Just cos its garbage doesn't mean the next one will be (I keep telling myself this btw so I know it doesn't make it feel any better). And I haven't had a Green in 6-7 months (other than crappy starter ones, which I give away).

ScorpiusX

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

Think about this: If you're suggesting that ANet should remove 'crappy' gold items, then the only type of gold item will be one with good mods, and therefore good gold weapons will be much more common.

If you have a selection of smarties and some are good and some are bad, and you remove the bad ones, you'll be left with the good ones. By removing the crappy golds, you've just ensured that these now 'rare' items will become much more common.

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

As always there's rare and rare but difference in rarity between golds is not my biggest issue. Mine is the fact that gold items have nothing on blue or purple items (anymore). Just found a Vabbi defender in blue armour 16, req 9, inscribable...A gold one will not be better. My point? What is the point in colour differences (blue, purple, gold) if there is no factual difference? It's simply an economy scam. If you have a skin..let's say the aureate aegis with the exact same stats, whether it is blue, purple or gold makes absolutely no difference except in price...

Why?

''Because it's a gold...''

So you ask, what makes it better than others?

''Well, it's gold...''


This reminds me of a joke (funny or not it will illustrate the point).

Question to a bunch of drunken wannabee hunters: So what's the difference between a bad and a good hunter?
Answer: Well, a bad hunter is a guy who has a gun and as soon as he sees anything that moves he shoots.
A good hunter is a guy who has a gun and as soon as he sees anything that moves he shoots...but he's a good hunter.

Gold is good...go for the shiny stuff, we are cavemen again....

ryanryanryan0310

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
I bet thread will be closed as just guna be flame war.
Gas prices are currently too high for flame war.....


Gold items will always have the meaning of rare in GW. It doesn't mean it's a good item(stats/skin), it just means it comes in the form of a rare/gold item.

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

The form being the label and nothing else, the majority of the time.

Personally, I think gold weapons should always have a skin not available in any other colour or (at least) be guaranteed max damage and Req 9 - there is no worthwhile reason to have colour coding as things stand.

My cherished possession from Factions (other than a pair of Dragon Scythe daggers) was a gold Bramble Shortbow. It wasn't even max, but it was lovely and the only one I found. Until NF. The bramble skin drops all over the newbie island - in white. Same thing later on - funky looking swords like the Desolation skins should be reserved for gold. Then gold would actually mean something. Yet they're not - they drop white, blue, purple... so if you ever get a gold one, chances are it'll be inferior to a "lesser" version you already have. It's a terrible system.

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

Although i have insanely terrible luck when it comes to drops on (like never having found a sup absorption or even a max stat weopon or a rare skin) Personally i dont have a problem with the way things are now, its far better than it used to be, atleast attributes on item match now compared to the old days of getting a 11-22 Divine Staff (Req 10 divine) +1 Soul Reaping (18%) HCT 17% Earth and +3 energy

Dark Kal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
Not true. As a matter of fact, you can get a Gold Item with NO mods & only 1 upgrade. I just got a Gold Crippling Platinum bow Dragon Slaying. Thats 2 Upgrades & no Mod. And as fb2000 pointed out Gold Upgrades can be 14%-15% or +29-30hp etc.. Gold items don't have to have perfect anything.
No, I'm pretty sure it is true that gold items have the best mods on them, I think they are the only that CAN (learn to read) have max mods on them, of course you can find a gold item with only upgrades on, that wasn't my point. My point was blue and purple items NEVER have max mods on them anymore ever since an update months ago.

Quote:
Originally Posted by seut
Yep, purple & blue are crap
And how many of those mods/inscriptions exactly came with those item? Other than their requirements they are crap. Also I said purple items are just as crappy as blue items which you have effectively proven for me with you picture, thank you :-)

cthulhu reborn

cthulhu reborn

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

the Netherlands

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade
Although i have insanely terrible luck when it comes to drops on (like never having found a sup absorption or even a max stat weopon or a rare skin) Personally i dont have a problem with the way things are now, its far better than it used to be, atleast attributes on item match now compared to the old days of getting a 11-22 Divine Staff (Req 10 divine) +1 Soul Reaping (18%) HCT 17% Earth and +3 energy
Those were funny items back then...and completely useless...lol.

Though I agree that the weapon modification side of things has improved much there still is not point to the different colours (blue purple gold) that exist. White is crap and can be sold instantly. Green is unique and perfect but unchangeable and everything in between, namely the blue purple and gold are now exactly the same. Perhaps with each colour there is a different percentage chance of being a perfect base or having mods but I don't really think so. Even if blues have less perfect bases, their frequency will make up for that. And it is often still cheaper to mod a blue item than to buy a gold base without mods, let alone with...so go figure

LONGA

LONGA

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Thailand

Agot

N/

There's few exception in weapons color. Such as ancient scythe and Elonian dagger.I found those weapon skin have different look for gold/purple items.
For other weapon. Same comment as the others just look at the stats.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

So...rip the darn mod off, and mod the wand yourself?

Dj Tano

Dj Tano

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

lol, youre right, such things need a fix...

AnnaCloud9

AnnaCloud9

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Minnesota

Well if you're bored, then you're boring!

R/

The 'rarity' factor that Wiki is referring to has to do with the frequency a monster drops a certain colored item, NOT the abilities of the item.

The 'rarity' of an item is relative to each individual, not scripted by ANet and their method of defining rares.

The 'rarity' function does not include chests in any way, as pertaining to the frequency of certain colors, as chests never drop white, blue, or green items.

Go on a typical thwomp through your favorite huntung grounds, without keys, and empty backpack/bags (as much as you can clear of course). Pick up everything that is dropped from monsters. Now, count how many whites, blues, purples and golds you have (and greens if you so happen to be in Sorrows/Grenths or Cantha or Elona). Now do the darn math. You know what, your Wooden Boar Wand is now 'rare'.

reetkever

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

I'm kind of pissed off about the drops in Elona as well...

Why did they change the lowest req from 7 to 8?

(req 8 seems to be as rare as req 7 in cantha/tyria).

Req 9 is about the lowest req you'll find in Elona. Of course, most of the time you get *blablabla* daggers with req 13 and only 1 mod (which is worthless btw).

99.8% of the time, blue items with either Precious/Highly Salvagable are worth more than golds/purples with other random mods. Is this how it should work?

I say throw down the req, beef up the requirement and decrease the drop rate by a bit. (At least give us better drops in high-end area's).

But then again, the prices of the truely rare weapons might go down, and combined with the inscriptions, the market for weapons might soon disappear (except of course the Crystalline Swords, Elemental Swords, Colossal Scimitars and so on...)




Sure, golds are the only weapons who CAN come with perfect stats, but 3 Devourers also CAN drop 3 black dyes in a row. It's possible, but unlikely.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

I get that alot too but my recent farming run net me a Gold Dead Sword with +29 health and +5 energy.

tayos

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Frozen North

United Union

P/Rt

Big deal, I'd rather they made rares RARE... like way back when... I mean my head exploded when I picked up my first rare hammer almost a month into Prophecies... which was also 14>50... which was also my weapon of choice at the time...

Let me put it this way, back then, if you used to play for roughly 3 hours a day, 6 days a week, you might be able to see one rare drop for someone else if you're always in a party of 6 humans or more. Maybe once a week.

Change purples to be the ones that give you the decent pieces you can snap together to make a really cool item, make Rares obscenely hard to find, but so awesome that, when one drops, like the child in Linkei Township says: "I just made in my pants!"

wingzro

wingzro

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada

GW just isn't too much about the items. You could go totally naked, with no items on and still do fine. More so as a caster since you don't need a weapon to do your job.

Master Sword Keeper

Master Sword Keeper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dead Isle

Farmers Of Woe [FoW]

W/

Quote:
normal - bog standard weapon. Stick some flashy mods on it and bam... you can probably make a better weapon then most golds or probably mimic most greens.
^ this is so true. I have 3 perfect purples...Colors MEAN NOTHING! Just because you have a gold or green means squat. You can easily mimic any weapon in this game with mods and Inscrips. I hate bashers who think people are noobs because their weapon isnt gold or green. Who cares. I could mimic a forgotten sword just by modding a normal inscriable gladius should I feel the need to. END OF STORY.

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australian Discussion Posse HQ - Glorious leader

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N/E

I totally agree with the OP, I mean look at this piece of trash!

No 15^50, no 20/20 sundering not even a +30hp omg, needless to say I trashed it.



Less QQ imo.

drupal

drupal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Master Sword Keeper
^ this is so true. I have 3 perfect purples...Colors MEAN NOTHING!
Yeah and that's the problem. Gold weapons should be something rare and not with a improved sale value or highly salvagable inscription, or do you want one on a crystalline? Do you?

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Kal
I think they are the only that CAN (learn to read) have max mods on them,.....purple items are just as crappy as blue items which you have effectively proven for me with you picture, thank you :-)
As you can see, the blue item he has there has a "perfect"max mod for health in stance (learn to read).

The colors don't mean that much. They should.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
The 'rarity' factor that Wiki is referring to has to do with the frequency a monster drops a certain colored item, NOT the abilities of the item.
Wiki explains the level of the Mods in terms white - Gold. There must be something wrong with this since the Eternal shield above has a perfect Health in Stance.
It seems that you're saying 'rare' means drop rate. But drop rate of what? Skin? Name? Mod? Upgrade? Damage? Exact combination of mods, skin, upgrade & inscription? Just COLOR? Isn't that circular logic? Golds are rare because Xmonsters don't drop items that are Gold very often?

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
The 'rarity' function does not include chests in any way, as pertaining to the frequency of certain colors, as chests never drop white, blue, or green items.
Unless you get more Purples than Golds from chests, which you do.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
Go on a typical thwomp through your favorite huntung grounds, without keys, and empty backpack/bags (as much as you can clear of course). Pick up everything that is dropped from monsters. Now, count how many whites, blues, purples and golds you have (and greens if you so happen to be in Sorrows/Grenths or Cantha or Elona). Now do the darn math. You know what, your Wooden Boar Wand is now 'rare'.
So it's just skins? Don't know about that, maybe.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

Zen, nice Crystalline! I seen that before!

BTW, forgot rare items in game! I got a PS3, PS2, a kick-A$$ computer which is better than any items you can find in game!!

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

The problem is the flawed Nightfall item system. The color and rarity lost all meaning since perfect items can be made from any inscribable max stats base, no matter if its blue, purple or gold.
In the first place golds should have been made the only inscribable items (with only those inscribable collector/crafter items we got now being the exception). This way the dropped purples and blues would work in the same way as in previous campagins and golds would keep the 'rare' feeling AND Nightfall inscribable functionality.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yawgmoth
The problem is the flawed Nightfall item system. The color and rarity lost all meaning since perfect items can be made from any inscribable max stats base, no matter if its blue, purple or gold.
I think most people are refering to the stats AT drop time. Not after you upgrade. I mean, you could put a +30hp pommel on a white +3-5 sword if you wanted too. it's the stats AT DROP TIME that we are questioning.

jazyjason

jazyjason

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Knights Of Aroneth [KOA] Guild Leader

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Golds arent "rare", they drop quite frequently. Its the skins which are rare. Its the perfect weapons which are are. Its the low requirement + max dmg weapons which are rare.

And i've never in my life got a "measure for measure" inscription.

Let me guess... you're low on funds.

You're p'd off because you cant find decent gold items to flog, or you cant salvage rare materials to sell.

Do you realise how vain this thread is. Gold's or greens are not the be-all and end-all of GWs. Golds or greens dont do anything amazing or special. They might have nice skins, and occassionally have some very nice mods, but their no different to any other weapon.

Take a normal - bog standard weapon. Stick some flashy mods on it and bam... you can probably make a better weapon then most golds or probably mimic most greens.

People who chase after gold weapons, are either PvP players who want to be L33t with the "perfect build" or their vanity players who want to be better then everyone else.

The rest of us seem to service without finding amazing, perfect, wonderfull gold weapons. Get over it.

Too true, the fact is in order to build any amount of wealth be it 50k or 500k or even 5000k, you need to start with a system. Even salvaging every little drop can soon turn into a great way to accumulate small amounts of gold. As for gold drops I'm personally against inscription based weapons in the first place. For one thing they make a 15^50 "normal". I remember when 15^50 was a staple in evaluating weapons. Now except for pure tyrian perfect weapons hence req 7's, 8's the value of the 15^50 damage mod is worthless. I suggest if you want to find that "diamond in the ruff" all the nerfed spots in Tyria (you mean W/Mo in desert? Gasp!), I found a req 7 FDS there once about 3 weeks ago, max dmg 15% enchanted. Took hours upon hours, but then an instant 200-300k wasn't bad not to mention 150 gold + tons of exp. Other than that just keep trying and save money.

Dark Kal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksun
As you can see, the blue item he has there has a "perfect"max mod for health in stance (learn to read).

The colors don't mean that much. They should.
How dumb are you? You can add whatever mod/inscription you want on Elonian items which is probably what he did. That doesn't prove those mods came with those items AT ALL!

So colors do mean something as you can only get certain max mods on GOLD items. I agree that there's no significant difference between blue and purple items but there's a huge difference between gold and blue/purple items, since as I said before you can ONLY get certain max mods/inscriptions/upgrades from gold weapons.

jazyjason

jazyjason

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Knights Of Aroneth [KOA] Guild Leader

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Kal
How dumb are you? You can add whatever mod/inscription you want on Elonian items which is probably what he did. That doesn't prove those mods came with those items AT ALL!

So colors do mean something as you can only get certain max mods on GOLD items. I agree that there's no significant difference between blue and purple items but there's a huge difference between gold and blue/purple items, since as I said before you can ONLY get certain max mods/inscriptions/upgrades from gold weapons.
Yes,but the issue at hand is in no way the mods on a weapon. People do not farm for hours for mods, it's pointless. What people are complaining about, especially old school Tyrian players from 2 years ago, is the fact that inflation mixed in with the over saturation of gold drops to appease the masses is slowly killing any way to make a decent amount of money. In tyria, I do some odd little chests runs through the shiverpeaks every now and then and even I have noticed an increase in gold drops there from chets. I think out of 8 keys I got 4 golds and 4 purples. Now all those golds I merched cause they were worthless. I can see the frustration from player and once again I knew that the inscription's in Nightfall would eventually kill the market. Now every Tom, Dick, and Harry have a 15^50 Fellblade. I can only hope Eye Of The North reverts back to non inscription weapons before we find ourselves amongst a growing throng of illegal gold buyers, and very poor unhappy players who cant even afford a decent shield or sword.

chembaron

chembaron

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Syracuse, NY

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Honestly, that happens to me a lot. If it's a decent item (skin/Req), I just mod over it, but generally, I rip the Highly Salvageable off and slap it onto some Jeweled Daggers or somethin, which often gives up Rubies or Sapphires when I do. Not that big of a deal.
yup. that's pretty much my exact philosophy.

seut

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Kal
And how many of those mods/inscriptions exactly came with those item? Other than their requirements they are crap. Also I said purple items are just as crappy as blue items which you have effectively proven for me with you picture, thank you :-)
I posted the picture more of a joke, because i sold them for a few hundred k 10minutes earlier
The 15% while enchanted inscription was from a gold staff with a non max inherent hsr mod. I bought the shield inscription, but you can get -2dmg ones from purple offhands. The 45hp handle was from a gold high req. shield that had no inscription slot!
It's funny (and a little sad) that you can find blue shields with an inscription slot and you can add a handle, but you can't add an inscription to a gold shield that has only a handle..