Are warriors looked down upon?

I’ve read all of your guys post and you guys do make sense. But if you think about it playing a warrior is not only knowing what you do, but you have to see how your enemy works. As we know warriors have many counters. People just assume warriors are the easiest profession to play but for a warrior you have to know how to build up the adrenaline skills and how to use the skills in combos especially for hammers. You have to know that your suppose to use some skills on the enemy when their knocked down and etc. Plus you have to know that your not suppose to attack through spoil victor or SS. Some people will just kill them self’s and maybe their teammates also. I don’t know but to me a ranger seems to be a much easier profession to play. The only part where someone would seem to have some trouble understanding is the expertise and how they work. And maybe some understanding on the pets and their skills. But other then that it seems pretty easy to play a ranger. You don’t have to worry about different combos except for maybe poison arrow and some other preparations like that. But that’s just me maybe you guys have a different view on this?

When it comes to PvE I always assume that, as was said before, everyone, regardless of class is an utterly useless nub. Especially the warriors. I have personally seen too many people fail horribly at something which is completly mindless and requires little to no skill (Talking about PvE btw.) I made my warrior back in beta and have about 85-90% of my account hours on him. Though the lack of good players in PvP pugs is pretty much the same. People simply don't know what they are doing these days. Though to stay on topic, I deffinitly think warriors are looked down apon yes, though it is for a number of reasons. The main one being of coarse the sheer number of them in the game. When it comes to there only being 1 out of 50 or 100 warriors who actually know what they are doing, It can only be expected that there will be a huge number of useless warriors running around, seeing that about 40% of guild wars population either started as or plays mainly as one. Can't say much for PvE, since it's so mindless I gave it up ages ago, though when it comes to PvP, warriors have many factors they must take into consideration with every step they take. They must always be concious of the other team and their own teams positions, since they are leading the charge for the most part. They need to have a good understanding of distance and where their feet are at all times (don't want to get too deep and force the monks to pull into the other teams middle lines just to get saved.) There are so many other things aswell, like calling spikes for instance, to do it effectively, it is quite a bit more difficult than most would think. Dunno, just my two cents as an overly experience warrior myself ;P.

i could really care less what people say about warriors. they are infinitely important to the entire game/community, and deal more damage than any other melee class without stop. they have great survivability, and are by far the most versitile melee class, and over all classes other than maybe mesmer or rit.

to all those who think they all "suck" just because of a few noobs running around with 6 stances and cyclone with no rez, you're just stereotyping, which in the end, you're missing out on having one of the best classes in the game in your group. by far the noobiest classes in pve are still dervs and sins, they rarely play the game right even when they've been playing gws for years.

regardless, no one can "prove" that they're good until they can even be in a group with someone.. but i guess someone like me that loves their war and plays a lot doesnt have that problem, i never have to look for a group, everyone just adds me and ask for me to join. Obsidian and Kind of a Big Deal will do that with any class though.. idk.. the community is getting more and more predjudice, in the wrong way lol.


EVERY class has noobs, dont hate just because you dont like warriors. i see more crap eles/dervs/sins/rits and rangers than warriors.. maybe i just dont hang out with the gws community you all do or something.. w/e


warriors are and always will be THE melee class.

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You guys are correct but ive been noticing a decrease in the number of warriors lol, I guess the players that were'nt as good moved on. Anyone else notice the decrease?

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Warriors in Guild wars get a bad reputation because of the MMO cliched concept of "Tanking". While most people here know what that means, I'll sum it up (ok try to sum it up):

Tanking is where a character of relatively high armor charges into the enemy mob, holding aggro and taking most if not all damage. Most MMOs have a game mechanism called Threat, which is usually generated by high damage attacks and special skills. A tank generates a large amount of threat to each enemy in the mob - the higher the threat caused by the warrior, the less of a chance that those monsters will attack the backline players when they attack the monsters.

Now that you know what it is, you'll be able to see the problem with tanking in Guild Wars: There's no threat or aggro control whatsoever. Hence, no tanks (there are few exceptions, such as farming, but that's totally different). Warriors are made to kill things. Nothing more.

Since tanking is such a common MMO feature, earlier players will automatically assume that that's what warriors do, and you can't blame them. "Every other MMO does it, why not Guild Wars?" The inexperienced players then tell this information to the young warrior and tells him the false purpose of his class (which is something that can happen to any new player of any profession, mind you), and it usually takes awhile before he realizes what he's made to do.

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Hi, My name is Halmyr, and I'm a warrior by proffesion (mostly PvE but with a bit of PvP).

First I must that yes I agree that their are a lot of bad warrior out there that give us our bad name , but I have personaly seen a few good one's out there.

The warrior proffesion is a simple one to play at first, but it does require some basic understanding of your enviroment. Early on, Hack and slash is the way to go, but as you go on, and this is were the good and the bad gets seperated, a few must have to be learned.

First off, you want to fight as litle enemy's as possible. In area like DoA or FoW, this is very important.

Second, let the enemy come to you, if you rush to the enemy, it gets a lot more emptic for your team to charge, with your monks to the left, the ele in the back, and your warrior somewere behind the enemy, this can be your downfall. If you let your enemy come to you, you can reay your self by being in a more organize formation that lets you kill much more efficintly with less hazard to you.

Third, Patient, I've been in group were the caster were rushing more then me, the feerlesss warrior , Skill and Planning will always win over Rashness and brute strengh. Also many of the skill that you must master as a warrior require a degree of Patient

Fourth: Pulling is an art that you must master, personaly I pull with my agro bubull ( I'm either too good for a longbow or to cheep to get one, you decided ) This help with with some of the Points I've mention

Some of my personal trick I use when I play are these

1) be in front of the party, or what I like to call, controled Leeroing.What I am trying to achieve with this is getting as much aggro as I can on me without leaving my party behind hence killing my self and the rest of the party. Hopefully, I can make those hydra cast meteor shower on me away from the party!

2) Body block: this goes with my first trick, when you charg, try body blocking the melee monster. If you can succesfully do that, the monster, instead of going around you, will try to kill you. Any time a melee monster is running, if you can block it long enough (4-6 seconds) it will start to attack you. If you are not succesfull with this, go attack the squishies.

My personal Favorit order, in general,for the squishies are
1) monks and mesmer
2) Ele and necro
3) rits
4) Paragon, sins, warriors, Dervish and Sins and rangers

I say general because some times, some monster have more priorety then others ( the flame djinin and Afflicted Ritual for example will be on my top priorety when fighting them)

Keep you Party windo open for the love of Baltazar, I've l;earn that lesson the hard way just there, killing things with my party window close, open it to see how things are going....whole party dead except me the next thing I know, I'm dead

Its little things like this that make the difference between a good warrior and a bad one. Its truly unfortunate that so many people have to ruins the name of such a noble proffesion .I try too, make up for those who lack, but its not an easy job. If need a warrior and see me, give me a shout, and I'l show you how good a job I can do

My two cents on the matter...

I have extensive experience when it comes to playing as a necromancer, monk, ranger, or warrior. Of all the classes I know well, and those I've dabbled in, I find the warrior the best of them all. Sure, right off the bat the warrior class is easy to pick up and play, but there are many complex builds out there that require talent to use.

I remember fresh from soloing Dungeon Siege I and II with a warrior, I charged into my first battle alone and was ripped apart in mere seconds, so I had to get accustomed to party play again. Throughout my experiences in GW, I created and modified many builds. I have to admit the only other character I really enjoy playing as is the monk class.

Basically, the beautiful thing about the warrior is you can either dumb down the game play using this profession and hack away, or you can create something very clever and use it to your advantage.

The first character i ever played on GW was a W/Mo. It is my primary character out of like 6 and i love playing it. i never once tried to make it a tank because i have the mindset "thats a big fnuckin hammer" why carry a big fnuckin hammer if i aint gonna smash something with it? i believe im a good player, ive never had complaints, and more than a couple compliments. In any game like this the warrior type class is the first i choose cause i like to beat up shit. im good at it. as long as people can talk they are going to complain about something. nerf this and nerf that my warrior is still going to beat shit up.

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Basically most warriors dont know how to play the profession. Almost all the warrior I play with think theyre the main dmg dealers. im playing with my nuker and the two wammos say how they do so much more dmg than elementalists. which is totally stupid. they call them tanks for a reason... to take all the dmg so the casters can finish off the enemies. i for the most part can hold an aggro pretty well on my tank and dont over aggro. and come on a Crystalline and a gloom shield looks way better than almost any wand or staff.

^^^ I agree with dubiel005 ^^^
Most of what I do is 4/5 man FoW. My party does not need a warrior who can deal damage, we need one who can hold aggro and stay alive without too much babysitting and who waits for everyone to say they are ready before running off to aggro the next group.

"Are warriors looked down upon?"
Depends on the warrior, there are many who do give the class a bad name. When I find one who does a good job I make sure I tell him.

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