Why do forms have no counter?

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Saphrium
Saphrium
Krytan Explorer
#1
It is the only thing that no one has any counter whatsoever.
Is there a reason for that? Is there going to be a counter for it?


Edit: I know elite shut-down, blackout and interrupt works, but I mean something that is specifically for anti form.
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Deleet
Wilds Pathfinder
#2
Interupts, disabling.
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DeXyre
Academy Page
#3
I guess just anti-form would be too narrow, and a 'skill' like endure pain doesn't have a specific counter either.
bhavv
bhavv
Furnace Stoker
#4
Forms are usable by one class in the game (Dervish). Others may be able to use it too, but the durations would be crap. There really isnt any need to have a specific counter that would only affect a single class, it isnt fair.
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Deleet
Wilds Pathfinder
#5
There are only 5 skills on this type, and they are elite.. Why would one need a specific counter?
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Chop it Off
Frost Gate Guardian
#6
they have no counter because one skill to counter "5" elites and shutdown an entire class is pretty friggin evil.
Opeth
Opeth
Krytan Explorer
#7
KILLL!!!!
Avarre
Avarre
Bubblegum Patrol
#8
You counter forms by countering the Dervish - in theory.
Amadeo
Amadeo
Ascalonian Squire
#9
Afaik there are other proffesions with forms too.. (Shadow Form.., Mist Form..)
VGJustice
VGJustice
Desert Nomad
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amadeo
Afaik there are other proffesions with forms too.. (Shadow Form.., Mist Form..)
True, but these are not the Avatar forms. Avatar forms can't be countered easily, where as the two you mentioned are Enchantments and can be stripped.
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Tempy
Lion's Arch Merchant
#11
Get the Nerfbat ready...
Arduin
Arduin
Grotto Attendant
#12
Well, they are called 'godly' skills for a reason.
Surena
Surena
Krytan Explorer
#13
Why would you want a counter when the usual counters already work? Anti-melee for instance? I'd say we rather nerf some necro hexes and their retarded long durations than demanding a counter to "forms".
prism2525
prism2525
Forge Runner
#14
They are counterable. Just slap loads of hexes on them like Blurred Vision, Reckless Haste, Spirit of Failure etc and they won't hit you. Or simply blind them. (if they're not using Melandru's).

For the Avatar of Dwayna it may be trickier, however it doesn't too that much awful damage so a good monk can keep its target up.
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Spura
Wilds Pathfinder
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhavv
There really isnt any need to have a specific counter that would only affect a single class, it isnt fair.
I'll be sure to quote you next time someone whines about echoes or chants having no good counters.
Maximumraver
Maximumraver
Krytan Explorer
#16
Ward Against Foes > Every Avatar\Form
Crippling Aguish > Every Avatar\Form (Except Melandru's)
Crippling Slash > Every Avatar\Form (Except Melandru's)
Imagined Burden > Every Avatar\Form

I could go on forever...
Evilsod
Evilsod
Banned
#17
Exactly... you can only counter the form by countering is as you would any melee foe. Since Dwayna obviously never sees the light of PvP hexes will always work on Forms, since nobody seems to run Blind-bots anymore, Melandrus doesn't really have much protection since anti-melee hexes will still make it miss.

Any skill that could actually remove forms would be overpowered. It would completely destroy the Avatars making them utterly useless, especially in PvE.
Mordakai
Mordakai
Grotto Attendant
#18
Not to mention, the recharge is pretty harsh.

There's a reason the mesmer shared Elite skill doesn't work on Forms.
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jummeth
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximumraver
Ward Against Foes > Every Avatar\Form
Crippling Aguish > Every Avatar\Form (Except Melandru's)
Crippling Slash > Every Avatar\Form (Except Melandru's)
Imagined Burden > Every Avatar\Form

I could go on forever...
Crippling Anguish is a hex ^^
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elektra_lucia
Banned
#20
Spell breaker has a counter?

Light of deliverance has no counter unless you interupt it to begin with (just like avatars).

This thread is retarded, just like my post.