Splitting the Skill Hunter title?

Dahl

Dahl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Ontario, Canada

Exalted Legionnaires [ExL]

I heard that the skill hunter title is being split up by campaign. Anyone know if this is just a rumour or if it's really happening, and when?

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

This week, with the Hard Mode update, from what I can tell.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
This week, with the Hard Mode update, from what I can tell.
when did they say it was coming out this week? will give me something to look forward to

scottyboysn

scottyboysn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

USA

Kingdom Of Deities [KOD]

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My question is if it will require elite skills or all the skills from the campaign. Splitting the skills would make for a much easier max title. Since hard mode will make getting the max mission title harder, that will officially make all of the titles very difficult to max. I'll be losing my KoaBD title - and I think others will as well. I like having them being difficult to max=) Makes wearing KoaBD and others very impressive.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Why not wait a week and find out?

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enko
when did they say it was coming out this week? will give me something to look forward to
Well, during Gaile's visit to Maguuma Stade during the Mursaat invasion yesterday, she said that Hard mode could be implemented as early as next week. But that's not a promise (she even specifically said that. Anet is probably getting sick of everyone taking everything they say may happen as a promise)

I don't think there's a definite date for when hard mode will be implemented though.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Zinger knows and sees all... :P Just don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen this week.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

One of the Devs on the Test Server has a "Legendary Guardian" title. "Legendary" was one of the prefixes Gaile mentioned for the title spliting/combining. "Guardian" is a Hard Mode title. Therefore, they will be released at the same time.

And as said, Gaile said Hard Mode will be released this week...

Do the math.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyboysn
My question is if it will require elite skills or all the skills from the campaign. Splitting the skills would make for a much easier max title. Since hard mode will make getting the max mission title harder, that will officially make all of the titles very difficult to max. I'll be losing my KoaBD title - and I think others will as well. I like having them being difficult to max=) Makes wearing KoaBD and others very impressive.
Yes, the proposed plan is to have seperate maxed skill hunter titles for each campaign.

No, you won't lose KoaBD if you're counting Protector titles towards it. From what's been said over and over ("No one will lose any titles" - Gaile Gray), the "Guardian" title tracks will be seperate from the "Protector" titles, not a second level to those title tracks.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Well theyre devs. They can do what they want. I am looking foreward to the other changes that go along with hard mode. Mainly whatever change augery rock will go through.(being displayed as a mission and all)Im sure it has to do with ascending, maybe an ascension title(i sure hope so).*****excited****

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

It'll most likely happen on Friday, when most Weekend events start.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Will wait to see what happens, many times we have been told things would not happen and did, and others that things would happen that still havent....believe it when I see it. (no my name is not thomas).

kumarshah

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/Mo

I wonder if new Elite Skills will be added with the Hard Mode Upgrade. That would potentially make the Skill Hunter Title harder to get.

VGJustice

VGJustice

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tyria, cappin' ur bosses

Boston Guild [BG]

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by kumarshah
I wonder if new Elite Skills will be added with the Hard Mode Upgrade. That would potentially make the Skill Hunter Title harder to get.
Doubt it, I've not known A.Net to add any skills to the game except with the addition of a new chapter.

And as much as I want to play Hard Mode, I won't lose any sleep if it doesn't happen on Friday.

Onarik Amrak

Onarik Amrak

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2007

Astral Revenants

P/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by kumarshah
I wonder if new Elite Skills will be added with the Hard Mode Upgrade. That would potentially make the Skill Hunter Title harder to get.
That'd be nice, but I really doubt it.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Any word on if they will be taking away Protector titles from counting towards KOABD?

Or if they will not take it away but stop allowing future gotten ones from counting towards KOABD? This is important because I purposely left NF garden open by not getting the final mission bonus done so as I can farm LB in NF garden. But if they are taking it away from future KOABD titles I'd rather go ahead and get it now. I bet other player are in the same boat.

I remember seeing screenshots of Guardian being tier 2 of Protector, but I've never seen any screenshots of Guardian having a separate track.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

So I'm guessing it will be split into 4 titles: Core, Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall. If so, I'll get another maxed title right away, since I got all the core skills a good while ago.

October Jade

October Jade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

drifting between Indiana and NorCal

Here's my inner Gollum poking out:

I suppose that with the alleged addition of a Legendary Skill Hunter or a Legendary Grandmaster Cartographer, my Legendary Survivor characters won't be so Legendary anymore.

*sigh*

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enko
when did they say it was coming out this week? will give me something to look forward to
Besides the above reasons, it was listed as "within the month" three weeks ago, that also gives the ETA as this week at the latest.

Personally I would say that is two *huge* updates in a month and is impressive if they make it (I would *hate* to be the configuration manager in that project - having been one managing much less I can see the pain there). I wouldn't hold my breath, nor is the above a hard promise from them. If they make it kudos to them - heck if they do two updates of that size in a five week time period that is impressive anyway.

Dahl

Dahl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Ontario, Canada

Exalted Legionnaires [ExL]

Didn't know splitting the skill hunter titles had anything to do wiith hard mode. ohhhh well.

I'm ready for it, with my new pve hammer build. Yes that's right I said it:

*** PvE Hammer Build. ***

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyboysn
My question is if it will require elite skills or all the skills from the campaign. Splitting the skills would make for a much easier max title. Since hard mode will make getting the max mission title harder, that will officially make all of the titles very difficult to max. I'll be losing my KoaBD title - and I think others will as well. I like having them being difficult to max=) Makes wearing KoaBD and others very impressive.
It's just elite skills and it will be elite skills. Getting regular skills just require going to a skill guy and buying them. There's no effort in that, so why should you get a title for it?

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Getting 1k worth of money every time you need to buy a skill takes a lot of effort once you start buying tons of skills. That's why.

Kayla Slays

Kayla Slays

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Round Rock, Texas

Can't Stop Texans

Mo/

My mesmer has the Elite Skill Hunter (290). And yes it took forever and cost me a fortune! Even though I have the title I dislike it for a number of reasons:

1. It is not maxed - max level is 360 and I can only hope that the new elites in GW:EN will allow me to max that. It would be nice if it could already count towards Kind of a Big Deal, or People Know Me (She has 6 titles - obviously excluding the Elite Skill hunter).
2. After all the trouble (and cost) that I went through to get the title - there is NO way I feel like doing it with any other character.
3. All my characters have some elites - but there is no motivation for me to chase after more for them. Especially with the hero system because I have every elite unlocked. I have a friend who is concentrating on getting each of his characters their own profession specific titles. Thinking back - I wish I had done it that way.
4. With lightbringer bonus, I no longer run with any other title showing, making all the other title hunting I have done seem unrewarded and a waste of time.

I have seen that they are revamping the Elite title so that it is fair to people who do not own all the campaigns. Which sounds great. And here is another idea...

....Make a profession specific title. Get every Elite for your primary and get a title. Pretty easy I know, but still something you could work towards. And then something like the Master Skill Hunter could almost be an account based title. Though I know many people will shoot that idea down! But it would reward people who enjoy playing different characters and playing each one well. And if you chose to do it with one character - great you still get the maxed account title.

TheRaven

TheRaven

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Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

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I'm very skeptical about the title split. It sounds to me, like it would be impossible for me to max this title after the split, but I hope that I'm just not understanding how it will work.

For example, lets say there are 50 Elites in Prophecies (random number, I don't know the exact count). Well one of those Elites is Barrage. I capped Barrage in Factions, so it is now impossible for me to cap it in Prophecies. Does this mean I can never max the Prophecies Skill Hunter title? If there are 15 core elites and I capped 5 in Prophecies, 5 in Factions and 5 in Nightfall I can never max any title even though I may have every elite available on my character.

This is my main concern with the title split. I'm hoping I'm wrong about this.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRaven
I'm very skeptical about the title split. It sounds to me, like it would be impossible for me to max this title after the split, but I hope that I'm just not understanding how it will work.

For example, lets say there are 50 Elites in Prophecies (random number, I don't know the exact count). Well one of those Elites is Barrage. I capped Barrage in Factions, so it is now impossible for me to cap it in Prophecies. Does this mean I can never max the Prophecies Skill Hunter title? If there are 15 core elites and I capped 5 in Prophecies, 5 in Factions and 5 in Nightfall I can never max any title even though I may have every elite available on my character.

This is my main concern with the title split. I'm hoping I'm wrong about this.
Barrage is a CORE skill, not a Prophecies skill.

When they say "Prophecies Elite" they mean the ones ONLY available in Prophecies.

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Barrage is a CORE skill, not a Prophecies skill.

When they say "Prophecies Elite" they mean the ones ONLY available in Prophecies.
Has A-Net said yet how they will split the title? I thought they said it would be split into 3 separate tracks (one per campaign), but if they are instead splitting it into 4 tracks with CORE added this would definitely solve the issue.

With only 3 tracks, how will CORE skills be managed? I guess they could set it up so that if you capped it in one place you get credit for it on all tracks.

I guess I'll just wait and see how it's implemented.

Hell Raiser

Hell Raiser

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Join Date: Dec 2005

[PHNX]

Mo/

I have the Elite Skill Hunter (5) (291), and I would really like some count towards KoaBD. HOWEVER, I much prefer wearing Elite Skill Hunter (5) over Kind Of A Big Deal (1) or Prophecies Skill Hunter (x). I would rather they create 3 new titles (Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall - Core skills would count +1 to each tier) and leave the current title (still unmaxable).

Dahl

Dahl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Ontario, Canada

Exalted Legionnaires [ExL]

If I'm not mistaken, how it will work is

let's say you have

4 core skills
10 tyrian elites
16 canthan elites
8 elonian elites.

Your titles would read 14 for tyrian, 20 for canthan, and 12 for elonian, you with me? The core skills just add to your existing tracks.

And if you cap a skill that belongs in tyria, but you capped it in factions, it would actually just count on your tyrian track, not your canthan track. It's not where you capped it, its which campaign the elite belongs to.

thezed

thezed

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Iowa, USA

HoTR

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Raiser
I have the Elite Skill Hunter (5) (291), and I would really like some count towards KoaBD. HOWEVER, I much prefer wearing Elite Skill Hunter (5) over Kind Of A Big Deal (1) or Prophecies Skill Hunter (x). I would rather they create 3 new titles (Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall - Core skills would count +1 to each tier) and leave the current title (still unmaxable).
If I'm not mistaken, this is how it was being discussed in the thread proposing the split. They would ADD 3 title tracks in addtion to the "World" skill hunger track. There was also talk of adding a "World" Cartographer and Protector title.

This is just what was being proposed by Gail, don't know what got finalized.