1) You may not always finish or complete a quest or mission. Some need to be done over and over, or you need to ask for help from more experienced players. Or both. With this in mind, you may not get masters in all, especially the older chapters (Prophecies, Factions) as most of the more experienced players have moved on to nightfall. Do not expect the older chapters to be updated to make them easier, it's just not going to happen.
2) You cannot expect to achieve the same results in game as the other players. Many of them play a great deal more than you, and more than likely they know every pattern and skill needed to traverse an area, defeat a mob etc.
3) You cannot expect to recieve the same results in gold and/or loot drops, or chest runs as many in game have at one time or another. Updates in game have changed how these all work and unless you have a lot of free time you will not be getting the same things others do.
4) If getting the best loot, armor, etc is your main goal, you must accept that the current state of the game is working against you. Yes against you. The system is trying to defeat bots, exploiters and other TOS violators and we (the lawful players) will suffer for their sins.
In short if playing the game "as is" is not an enjoyable experience, perhaps you should try another game and watch for GW2.
Keys to happiness in game...
Enchanted Warrior
Bryant Again
I really like your third and fourth points. I know a lot of friends who'll complain that they won't get the same drops as someone else. And yeup, farming is not easy in Guild Wars - it's just not how GW was built.
FlameoutAlchemist
Wow, I'm impressed. Good post.
I seriously never expected you, Enchanted, to post something like this considering the nature of most of your other posts.
Kudos. Truly.
I seriously never expected you, Enchanted, to post something like this considering the nature of most of your other posts.
Kudos. Truly.
lyra_song
You should add:
You have to accept that skills and game mechanics can and will change in time.
You have to accept that skills and game mechanics can and will change in time.
Enchanted Warrior
Or better still:
"Game Experience May Change During Online Play"
Which we all know means you could go to bed on Monday with a shiny, strong warrior in FOW armor and wake up the next day to find a dwarf in a pink too too, with a wand..
5) You cannot expect your current character build/setup to work on all occasions, you will need to adapt, improvise and overcome (ohhrah), or fall behind. In game, like in life unfortunaley, it is survival of the fittest. You cannot judge online games by the standard you used to judge pc or console games. They were set, the outcome determined at inception. Online games are fluid and very, VERY subject to change. Either you roll with the changes or leave. It sounds harsh but welcome to the jungle. I've seen mega popular games die after one update. (almost overnight).
"Game Experience May Change During Online Play"
Which we all know means you could go to bed on Monday with a shiny, strong warrior in FOW armor and wake up the next day to find a dwarf in a pink too too, with a wand..
5) You cannot expect your current character build/setup to work on all occasions, you will need to adapt, improvise and overcome (ohhrah), or fall behind. In game, like in life unfortunaley, it is survival of the fittest. You cannot judge online games by the standard you used to judge pc or console games. They were set, the outcome determined at inception. Online games are fluid and very, VERY subject to change. Either you roll with the changes or leave. It sounds harsh but welcome to the jungle. I've seen mega popular games die after one update. (almost overnight).
EternalTempest
1. Disagree unless you only own *one* of the older games. Adding skill from other campaigns, from my experience, makes you more powerful because of your skill diversity. It's not hard for a player to make a tryia character and get Elona max armor before doing N.Shiverpeaks missions for example either.
2. Agree
3. Agree
4. Agree ... for a different reason. Jeff Spain interview said there nothing against farming (for your own wealth) but if something becomes to popular - causing things go out of wack, they will "fix" it. aka a group of player earn more money at a much higher rate then the population
2. Agree
3. Agree
4. Agree ... for a different reason. Jeff Spain interview said there nothing against farming (for your own wealth) but if something becomes to popular - causing things go out of wack, they will "fix" it. aka a group of player earn more money at a much higher rate then the population
redant751
Yep,Farming is not what it use to be...... How the hell are we supposed to get gold.
Maximumraver
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Grasping Darkness
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Agreed, too many people keep complaining about skill changes, i'd say get over it, remake you build a bit, and stop whining.
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Maximumraver
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but what if complaining is what makes some happy and you bashing them for whining is what makes you happy?
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Chop it Off
you forgot 5 and 6
5.) no lag.
6.) no rubber banding.
then id be happy.
5.) no lag.
6.) no rubber banding.
then id be happy.
.Unanimous.
The only reason i'm not happy in the game is builds. I've spent around 100k+ on builds in a month. I see a build, think its good and so buy EVERYTHING it requieres, then i find its not so good, so i go for another. I still haven't found a decent build for my dervish <;l i've checked the forums but there's not alot there. Well i'll wait for GW:EN new skills, new builds, right?
Chop it Off
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The only reason i'm not happy in the game is builds. I've spent around 100k+ on builds in a month. I see a build, think its good and so buy EVERYTHING it requieres, then i find its not so good, so i go for another. I still haven't found a decent build for my dervish <;l i've checked the forums but there's not alot there. Well i'll wait for GW:EN new skills, new builds, right?
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13 scythe, 13 earth, rest in mysticism.
8 health regen +34 armor from windwalker runes and conviction, deep wound and spammable damage.
and depending on the vigor u have, 550+ health. no sup runes.
its the general pve build i use.
The Ernada
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Or better still:
"Game Experience May Change During Online Play" Which we all know means you could go to bed on Monday with a shiny, strong warrior in FOW armor and wake up the next day to find a dwarf in a pink too too, with a wand.. 5) You cannot expect your current character build/setup to work on all occasions, you will need to adapt, improvise and overcome (ohhrah), or fall behind. In game, like in life unfortunaley, it is survival of the fittest. You cannot judge online games by the standard you used to judge pc or console games. They were set, the outcome determined at inception. Online games are fluid and very, VERY subject to change. Either you roll with the changes or leave. It sounds harsh but welcome to the jungle. I've seen mega popular games die after one update. (almost overnight). |
If those people can't handle any change then they should not be playing an online game. Otherwise, just accept that some things happen and you'll be a lot happier.
Bryant Again
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5) You cannot expect your current character build/setup to work on all occasions, you will need to adapt, improvise and overcome (ohhrah), or fall behind. In game, like in life unfortunaley, it is survival of the fittest. You cannot judge online games by the standard you used to judge pc or console games. They were set, the outcome determined at inception. Online games are fluid and very, VERY subject to change. Either you roll with the changes or leave. It sounds harsh but welcome to the jungle. I've seen mega popular games die after one update. (almost overnight).
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Enchanted Warrior
The Ernada, actually it should be displayed above games on the shelf where they are sold. Don't hold your breath, gaming companies want every dollar. They do not want anything stopping people from buying their games. If they don't enjoy them, oh well, they got paid.
creelie
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Yep,Farming is not what it use to be...... How the hell are we supposed to get gold.
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Enchanted Warrior
redant751, just do like I have. Write it off, and move on. I know, it's not much of a solution, but the only thing that they (gw) will listen to is lower sales, til then they feel all they are doing is right.
Life is too short, if you're not getting enough enjoyment out of the game, dump it..
Life is too short, if you're not getting enough enjoyment out of the game, dump it..
Edge Martinez
Great thread Enchanted. I agree with that first post, and I love that Ancient armor.
AceeBlueEagle
Here are mine that I live by in game and sometimes life:
1) Remember it's just a game, job, whatever applies in the said situation.
2) Always laugh at yourself when applicable.
3) It's alright to laugh at others.
1) Remember it's just a game, job, whatever applies in the said situation.
2) Always laugh at yourself when applicable.
3) It's alright to laugh at others.
Enchanted Warrior
Edge Martinez, thankie
AceeBlueEagle, very true...
AceeBlueEagle, very true...
A. Noid
If I may,
Forget about mechanics.
Forget about the ins and outs.
Ignorance is bliss. Enjoy the mystery of a new world. Enjoy.
ANoid
Forget about mechanics.
Forget about the ins and outs.
Ignorance is bliss. Enjoy the mystery of a new world. Enjoy.
ANoid
NevynZeddicus
Just to echo everybody else, great post Enchanted. So many people get so bloody upset when something gets nerfed/buffed/resdesigned/altered/whatever.
Person Taking Game too Seriously: "OMG Anet just nerfed my uber-1337 build!!!11111eleven! Now I actually have to THINK for myself instead of ripping something off of Wiki and come up with something original! Gods, I am ruined!!!111!"
Everybody Else: "Meh, I wonder if this works."
PTGWTS: "You fools, what are you doing?!? They just nerfed my build! Now I can't pwn everything with my skillz!"
EE: "We're playing the game. Its what we do for enjoyment and diversion."
If you can't deal with a change, or the fact that GW isn't like every other bloody MMO on the market, go play them and let those of us who enjoy (for the most part) what GW actually IS do so.
Person Taking Game too Seriously: "OMG Anet just nerfed my uber-1337 build!!!11111eleven! Now I actually have to THINK for myself instead of ripping something off of Wiki and come up with something original! Gods, I am ruined!!!111!"
Everybody Else: "Meh, I wonder if this works."
PTGWTS: "You fools, what are you doing?!? They just nerfed my build! Now I can't pwn everything with my skillz!"
EE: "We're playing the game. Its what we do for enjoyment and diversion."
If you can't deal with a change, or the fact that GW isn't like every other bloody MMO on the market, go play them and let those of us who enjoy (for the most part) what GW actually IS do so.
mortis corpus
enchanted very thoughtful thread enjoy to read GJ and i cant agree more
GreatLich
Also, only for whom it is legal to do so:
Once in a while, open a bottle of your favourite poison, get drunk and play.
Bottle of booze: €20
Getting run through the desert: 5plat or so
Waking up the next morning wondering how your mesmer got to the ring of fire island: Priceless
Once in a while, open a bottle of your favourite poison, get drunk and play.
Bottle of booze: €20
Getting run through the desert: 5plat or so
Waking up the next morning wondering how your mesmer got to the ring of fire island: Priceless
matt_longbow
lol got a good laugh from that Lich, if people didn't take some stuff so seriously they would have alot more fun in life/Guild Wars....ya know...whichever
Enchanted Warrior
Another thing I have done is drop my less than favorite characters. I decided it would require too much more game time to get them through, and it would just be too aggravating owing to the current game mechanics vs certain professions. That coupled with the fact that with Heroes you are playing all by setting them up and controlling them, and I prefer Warrior over all except Ranger which I use when I get tired of running after stuff. Essentially I decided the game was not going to adjust to me, so I adjusted my time in it.
7) IF you are a casual player, don't worry about places like Domain of Anguish, it was designed to be uber hard unless you can take time to figure our FOTM builds, which usually means starting a new character and getting it through the game again. Of course if you want to try it, great. But, if getting wiped out (entire group) over and over in a few minutes appeals to you, pass it by. They are called "Elite" areas but it would be more appropriately titled "Elitest", as the only ones getting into groups must be wearing the required outfit and have the required spells etc.. Basically this type of area seems to be a casters/ranged only mission as the run in and fight tactic will result in a 30 second death. Some will say they use "x" build and run through to get chests, well that may be true but given the stuff coming out of chests is subject to the same mechanics as the rest of the game, it hardly seems worth it (i.e you can get purple, req13 stuff there just like anywhere else in game, and imho, the effort is not worth it. ) I've got protector in all 3 chapters, I'm lightbringer 5, and over 4.4 mil in exp on my main character. I can do most any mission save a few with heroes/henchman. And I get wiped there in a few minutes. So having said titles means nothing there. They are an entirely new playing feild, kinda like TOTPK, on crack, and as a guildy says "The Developers ate too much pepperoni pizza before bed"
7) IF you are a casual player, don't worry about places like Domain of Anguish, it was designed to be uber hard unless you can take time to figure our FOTM builds, which usually means starting a new character and getting it through the game again. Of course if you want to try it, great. But, if getting wiped out (entire group) over and over in a few minutes appeals to you, pass it by. They are called "Elite" areas but it would be more appropriately titled "Elitest", as the only ones getting into groups must be wearing the required outfit and have the required spells etc.. Basically this type of area seems to be a casters/ranged only mission as the run in and fight tactic will result in a 30 second death. Some will say they use "x" build and run through to get chests, well that may be true but given the stuff coming out of chests is subject to the same mechanics as the rest of the game, it hardly seems worth it (i.e you can get purple, req13 stuff there just like anywhere else in game, and imho, the effort is not worth it. ) I've got protector in all 3 chapters, I'm lightbringer 5, and over 4.4 mil in exp on my main character. I can do most any mission save a few with heroes/henchman. And I get wiped there in a few minutes. So having said titles means nothing there. They are an entirely new playing feild, kinda like TOTPK, on crack, and as a guildy says "The Developers ate too much pepperoni pizza before bed"
Correct Jeans
Nice post. My response would have to be that in order to get things the lots dont hav...go places that lots cant get to or survive in: HoH and DoA. WOOT!
Chthon
Keys to happiness in game = don't make a necromancer. You will get attached to them, only to see a-net nerf their primary attribute to hell.
Nemo the Capitalist
Farming sucks now
Dj Tano
Plz add this:
8) Feel completely stupid when you say LoL, and are not actually laughing, not even smiling...
8) Feel completely stupid when you say LoL, and are not actually laughing, not even smiling...
Miral
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The only reason i'm not happy in the game is builds. I've spent around 100k+ on builds in a month. I see a build, think its good and so buy EVERYTHING it requieres, then i find its not so good, so i go for another. I still haven't found a decent build for my dervish <;l i've checked the forums but there's not alot there. Well i'll wait for GW:EN new skills, new builds, right?
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Miral
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Plz add this:
8) Feel completely stupid when you say LoL, and are not actually laughing, not even smiling... |
cyberjanet
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Originally Posted by AceeBlueEagle
Here are mine that I live by in game and sometimes life:
1) Remember it's just a game |
Life is too short. And you don't get an automatic rez. So if you're not enjoying the game for whatever reason, move on.
The Ernada
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Plz add this:
8) Feel completely stupid when you say LoL, and are not actually laughing, not even smiling... |
manitoba1073
Another thing to remember is even though it is a game some things are ment to be played harder for and not handed to players on a silver platter. As there is no UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT A B A B code in GW for stuff.
Miral
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Another thing to remember is even though it is a game some things are ment to be played harder for and not handed to players on a silver platter. As there is no UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT A B A B code in GW for stuff.
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Rockby Quickfoot
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Wow, I'm impressed. Good post.
I seriously never expected you, Enchanted, to post something like this considering the nature of most of your other posts. Kudos. Truly. |
Enchanted Warrior
Sometimes you have to bow to the absurd and admit the unchangeable..