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Tide to Go

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

I War Torn I [Torn]

N/Me

17 Apr 2007 at 01:07 - 1

Old Man Jackpot & Young Jackpot [Gamb]

Me and a friend do lotteries in Pre-Ascalon D2 to help out new players.

We are always by the merchants!

You give us 10g (trade window), and pick a number 1-100.

Pay 20g, play 2 numbers & so on...

We roll a number 1-100, and whoever has the closest number to ours, wins the bet....we do it about every day around 4-5pm EST. Each round is 30 minutes, so come join us! We had 20 or so people dancing around, waiting for the numbers today...how many will there be tomorrow?! Who can tell!

Jackpot has been around 600g, but if you bet more you can up the pot!

We are not scammers, just trying to help out new people and have some fun! Come join us in D2 tomorrow around 4-5pm EST.

Monday
Cody Bronzewolf
Roy The Lionheart

tuesday
B L A Z Z E
The Man Of Ham

blazze was lucky at first a person witch has not come online won, but the person was off so blazze was the next one .....

Wednesday
unknown
unknown

i only remember a few that where bidders....didnt get the whole name, so many bids i wrote half the name like Strader......grrrr
PM me if there's any confusion!

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

17 Apr 2007 at 01:13 - 2

Wow. Words fail me.

You want to bring back lotteries?!

This isn't a player event; it's a scam!

I know you claim it isn't scamming, but the /roll command was banned in outposts for a good reason.

bart

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

17 Apr 2007 at 01:32 - 3

whats up with all the player-events anyway? Anet too busy working on GW:EN and GW2 to bother about GW1 so we the paying customers have to come up with stuff of our own?

OK i'm going to hold a player event. the event is called "Give Bart 100 Plat".

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

17 Apr 2007 at 01:37 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by bart

whats up with all the player-events anyway? Anet too busy working on GW:EN and GW2 to bother about GW1 so we the paying customers have to come up with stuff of our own?

OK i'm going to hold a player event. the event is called "Give Bart 100 Plat".

Sadly, yes. Guild Wars is an Amish video game.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

17 Apr 2007 at 03:38 - 5

Here's a better way to explain:

You pay 10g minimum to bet on a number
Jackpot and his friend get ANOTHER friend to bet on a number
Lots of others bet on numbers
Jackpot rezones to get the number
Winner is....their friend OMG!!
No one knows this, so they think that it's legit and keep playing
Their friend splits the money with them, and they get cash for free

This is a scam.

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

17 Apr 2007 at 03:45 - 6

so how does rezoning "get the number"?

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

17 Apr 2007 at 03:50 - 7

You can only do /roll outside a zone. So you have to rezone to do /roll, or it won't let you.

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

17 Apr 2007 at 03:58 - 8

yes i know you canonly roll 100 outside...so what youre saying is that everyone that is placing the bets in inside the outpost and he steps outside to supposedly roll to get the number and then returns with the winning number?

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

17 Apr 2007 at 04:03 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grasping Darkness

yes i know you canonly roll 100 outside...so what youre saying is that everyone that is placing the bets in inside the outpost and he steps outside to supposedly roll to get the number and then returns with the winning number?

Tide to Go said to me in a PM (why?) that he uses the "hat system."

Case in point.

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

17 Apr 2007 at 04:18 - 10

im such a nub and dont know what the hat system is so i googled it and got returns such as,MANO-HAT system An External transducer (Micromanometer & Phono) and a software for obtaining optimal recordings as well as for easy calculation ...

plese enlighten me

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

17 Apr 2007 at 04:52 - 11

That brings back memories, when Lion's Arch was filled with /roll spam from the lottery scams *sigh*

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

17 Apr 2007 at 05:14 - 12

I suppose the guy just draws the winning number from a hat he has next to him. It's all a bit dodgy though, because there's no way to tell if he is actually being honest when he says the winning number.

savage vapor 33

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Regems Basement

The Malevolent Wolfpack [tMw]

17 Apr 2007 at 08:15 - 13

Yeah definetly sounds like a scam, he hasnt even replied in his own thread rebuttal us accusing him of scams. Heh....

Saelfaer

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Belgium

The Blitzers Guild

17 Apr 2007 at 11:18 - 14

guys please, there is no reason for you all to declare this as a scam

no we cannot check it, no it might be faked but again: we do not know that for sure, so this guy is not to be declared scamming until proof of that can be given. want to know if its a scam? try it out... its not like you will go bankrupt from 10g

i would like to see a bit more tollerance instead of the instant judging and labeling many people do here.

Chunk

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/N

17 Apr 2007 at 11:20 - 15

OMG, what a great and original idea this is. *sarcasm*
OMG, I trust you guys and want to spend all my money on this *sarcasm*
OMG, there is no way something this cool is against games rules *sarcasm*

What burns me most about the original poster is that he explicitly states that he is trying to "Help" new players. No wonder so many new players to this game leave within the first week. that 500g they worked so hard for is scammed from them.

OP, its only a matter of minutes before the nerf-bat his you in your scamming posterior.

DRGN

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In Memorium [iBot]

Mo/A

17 Apr 2007 at 11:36 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tide to Go

Cory Bronzewolf - 680g
Roy The Lionheart - 550g

PM me if there's any confusion!

Um...the name "Cory Bronzewolf" didn't exist when I checked last night, and doesn't exist at the time of this post, so I'm not sure how much of a "winner" he was.

As was said before, /roll was disabled in outposts to prevent this kind of this. You should only do this with friends and guildies.

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

17 Apr 2007 at 11:58 - 17

Seeing as you can solo one thing and make 80g, I don't see the gold amount as much of a problem and who would waste their time making such small money for a scam when you can easily make 1k?

Erik Fox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Texas

17 Apr 2007 at 12:06 - 18

This doesn't take that much time to do, and I guess if they do it in Ascalon(pre!) they can get a lot more money than you think. Screams scam to us but the newbies probably don't know any better.

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

E/

17 Apr 2007 at 12:29 - 19

If you want to help new players do what I do - GIVE them FREE items!

Orbberius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

17 Apr 2007 at 12:45 - 20

Kind of elaborate for a scam... I mean, 10g?

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

17 Apr 2007 at 13:23 - 21

Well, I don't know if Tide is running a scam or a legitimate lottery. I won't say he's scamming, because I think he probably isn't. But I do think he's being a bit naive by posting this and not anticipating that most people would instantly yell...SCAM!

Overall, it's not something I'd recommend that a new player participate in. There are plenty of other ways to make money. If you are new, then just play the game normally and you'll soon find that you have enough gold to meet all your needs. (Maybe not all your wants, but definitely your needs)

Halmyr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada! eh!

~none~

W/Me

17 Apr 2007 at 14:19 - 22

http://www.guildwars.com/support/gam...hive-index.php

Check the May 2005 update, fourth point from the top.

Theres a reasons they remove /roll from outpost, just insane amount of spam and a great many of the dealer were scammer.

I wont make assumption about tide, but I'm not about to trust him, and I dont sugest any one does either.

Realm of Fiery Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Realm of Fiery Doom

17 Apr 2007 at 17:49 - 23

Well...

what happens if I pay 1K and choose all numbers from 1-100?

If this is a scam, he'll probably tell me that the winnings have to be split between me and his friend, who somehow manages to get the right number each time, therefore returning me 750g.

Just thinking.

Correct Jeans

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2007

^MY CAT DID THAT ONCE!

Free Willzyx [MASA]

E/Me

17 Apr 2007 at 18:35 - 24

Lol. I personally think its much more fun to go to a random district in Kamadan and find a level 3 without a guild and give him 1k. lol. It is absolutely hilarious. They go nuts!

daky

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

17 Apr 2007 at 19:50 - 25

Funny how both "winners" each start with a real name, then end with some sort of animal.

/Scam

blood4blood

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

17 Apr 2007 at 20:21 - 26

If you want to help people in pre without being accused of scamming, here are a few easy things to do:

1) give away decent blue and purple items
2) open the gate to the northlands for people who ask...and do it for free
3) join people so they can get rez sigs
4) lead people through the catacombs for boots and the various necro and monk quests
5) give people free "runs" to Ft Ranik and Barradin's Estate
6) remember the old adage about teaching someone to fish rather than giving him a fish...

Realm of Fiery Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Realm of Fiery Doom

17 Apr 2007 at 20:21 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Correct Jeans

Lol. I personally think its much more fun to go to a random district in Kamadan and find a level 3 without a guild and give him 1k. lol. It is absolutely hilarious. They go nuts!

That happened to me once. I went nuts

Realm of Fiery Doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2007

Realm of Fiery Doom

17 Apr 2007 at 20:25 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by blood4blood

If you want to help people in pre without being accused of scamming, here are a few easy things to do:

1) give away decent blue and purple items
2) open the gate to the northlands for people who ask...and do it for free
3) join people so they can get rez sigs
4) lead people through the catacombs for boots and the various necro and monk quests
5) give people free "runs" to Ft Ranik and Barradin's Estate
6) remember the old adage about teaching someone to fish rather than giving him a fish...

1) and decent golds as well, check
2) yup, check
3) yup, check
4) yup, check
5) yup, check
6) umm....not reallly, but yup, i teach people.

Me nice guy

Tide to Go

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

I War Torn I [Torn]

N/Me

17 Apr 2007 at 21:22 - 29

we use a random number program, this isent a scam, second day doing this, and had 2 winners, we had a 1k pot today.

ask around about us, some people should know by now

we had one person today stalking the friends list, right as i got on "are you playing today?" i know where u get the scam stuff, but atleast i know the truth, along with everyone that has played

about the what if i bet all numbers thing....pretty simple if u bet all numbers u win your money back.....whats the p[oint of that

only one person can have anumber if someone says the same as another players number on the list i simply say sorry this number is taken

this weekend on saturday we are doing an all day pot 2 rounds.....numbers 1-5,000

arobmic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

West Coast US

A/

17 Apr 2007 at 21:37 - 30

Tide,

My issue is that you bill this as "helping" other newbies out. How does this help anyone out? Statistically speaking, if you are legit and not a scammer, then over time, a person will get back what they put in. If you put in 10g for one number, you will win back 1000g 1 out of 100 times (if there are always 100 numbers taken). Basically, over time, you will break even. No matter how many people play, this will always average out to breaking even (if you are legit). Statistics will prove this out.

So again, how does this "help" anyone out? To advertise it as helping only fuels the discussion about scamming. If you are legit, then advertise as a simple gambling game - not as something that is going to "help" people.

Tide to Go

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

I War Torn I [Torn]

N/Me

17 Apr 2007 at 21:44 - 31

first of all not all of it is for a profit
we love all the fun in this, the crowd, the omg the jackpot went up.....like i have said to people that deserve a pm from this thread

i would explain in detail like i did to them, but i dont have to explain myself so deeply to get you to not think im a scammer.......its simple we help them with money, they can use it, and have fun at the same time

do you go to the attual guild wars events just to get money, and other things?

I know i dont i go there with friends, i never celebrate without having someone to0 celebrate it with.

again anothewr thing i said to someone is that we double the pot, we stareted this today, so we even put our money in for them....attually we are loosing money.....but to see all of them id farm for a little bit for enough to double a pot......but on saturday.....i dont know hpow im going to double that pot, atleast ill try my hardest to get to it.....im thinking both pots of the day will be in double digit nukmbers if more than 10k, ill farm as much as i can.

draceena

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

17 Apr 2007 at 22:10 - 32

Since you have started a thread, why not post the names of every winner, it would go a long way to reducing the /scam accusations and make the posting of the names a "rule" that all players have to approve of so as to not overstep the forum rules about posting other players names

Tide to Go

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

I War Torn I [Torn]

N/Me

17 Apr 2007 at 22:21 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by draceena

Since you have started a thread, why not post the names of every winner, it would go a long way to reducing the /scam accusations and make the posting of the names a "rule" that all players have to approve of so as to not overstep the forum rules about posting other players names

I will do this thanks for the suggestion

but as u can see from the post on the first page, about them being part of a scam...

but since you want me to i will gladly post them.

last post for today i dont want to spam

again as long as the thread is alive i will keep it informed on all the winners

ill edit this post every day that I do a jackpot

I will aslo write down the people that i saw bid, but didn't win

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

18 Apr 2007 at 00:11 - 34

Well im SURE you asked their permission to post names, and that while these names are up people will pm them to see if they have won.>.> maybe ill do this myself to see if it was a scam.

*Alexiel*

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

England, and on here... http://alexiel-star.deviantart.com/

CPx

R/Mo

18 Apr 2007 at 00:29 - 35

You know..when I first read this post, I think I'm just about the only person that didn't scream ''SCAMSCAMSCAM1!!oneone11!!one1'' straight up.

I viewed this as a genuine idea for fun/helping people. Call me naive or whatever but I think its pretty sad really that when someone posts an idea for fun with helpful motives behind it the first reaction they get is pretty hostile with a bunch of accusations here and there.

No ones proved this is a scam, and my personal feeling is that its unlikely that it is; but whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty >_>

Not EVERYONE is out there to gain from the misfortune of other players, I think too many people forget that, too often.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

18 Apr 2007 at 01:55 - 36

The reason scammers in real life get away with scamming millions of dollars out of people is because they sell the lie: "You can't prove I'm scamming therefore I'm innocent" whilst bilking those millions of dollars out of naive victims who believe in the false premise of "the good of mankind".

If it quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's a duck. Same thing for scams. Same thing for the scam described in the original post.

There is a reason that Anet got rid of casinos, it was precisely to prevent scams like the one in the original post from going on. I'm surprised that fansites tolerate the promotion of scams like this on their forums.

Chunk

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2007

Mo/N

18 Apr 2007 at 11:12 - 37

The fact that this thread isn't closed yet is making me wonder if Guru changed their "no promoting gambling policy"

I guess its time for me to unveil my new lottery!

here are the rules.

Players pay 1k,
I think of a number between 1-1000,
Players pick a number,
If they guess my number I pay them 100k

Its not a scam I swear! I'm just trying to help you!

Why are you all accusing me of being scammer?

*sarcasm

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

18 Apr 2007 at 12:33 - 38

I have one question. Why hasn't this been closed yet?

Feme Assassin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Greece

Reign of Heroes[ROH]

18 Apr 2007 at 19:45 - 39

ok tide so you dont make ANY profit from this except fame? Come on you didnt have a reason to post it and make this big mess unless you wanted some fame

Caleb

Nil nisi malis terrori.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

18 Apr 2007 at 20:48 - 40

I am going to refer you to a guildwars.com update to the Rules of Conduct governing Guild Wars:
http://www.guildwars.com/newsarchive/2005-05.php

Quote:

Due to the proliferation of casinos and their potential for player abuse, we will be blocking the accounts of those who advertise or operate casinos or other gambling schemes within the game, effective immediately. Players should be aware that casinos are a breach of the Rules of Conduct, as is the advertisement or promotion of cheats, hacks, of exploits. None of these things will be accepted within Guild Wars.

Guild Wars Guru supports the Rules of Conduct of Guild Wars.
Closed.